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Honda ST1300 Section => Tyres...to suit your ST1300 => Topic started by: Wild Rose on September 09, 2014, 11:21:29 PM
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Looks like I am up for a new set of tyres already, I thought they would do Inverell but maybe not
All reports Michelin PR4 GT not available for months, PR3 not available anymore :eek
Where do I go from here Bridgestone T30GT, Pirelli Angel GT or Dunlop Roadsmart 2
Or just park the bike till the Michelin come back into stock, At Jake Wilson they say back in stock on the 19th September
But thats probably a maybe also,
I spoke to Tyres for Bikes in Brisbane and Two wheel tyres at Blacksoil
Where does others get there tyres from in Toowoomba, Ipswich, Brisbane
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On my 2nd set off PR3's but the Bridgestone 023's where nearly as good.... :thumbs
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I am still running a set of Angel GT on mine. They have been a good set of tyres as were the the PR3. I will be looking for the PR4 as well when it is time to re shod the bike.
http://www.brisbanemotorcycletyres.com.au/ (http://www.brisbanemotorcycletyres.com.au/)
http://www.teammoto.com.au/tyre-centres.php (http://www.teammoto.com.au/tyre-centres.php)
http://www.motobarn.com.au/buying-the-right-motorcycle-tyres/ (http://www.motobarn.com.au/buying-the-right-motorcycle-tyres/)
all the above are in Slacks Creek down here
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I am using the Pirelli Angel GT (A spec rear for heavier bikes) and find they are at least as good in all respects as the PR3s I had on before, which is praise indeed. If anything a bit more stable at speed and in wind. A more even turn into corners compared to the PR3s which seemed to be more eager (although that could be down to whatever I had packed on the bike that day!) Distance may be the same, but hard to say as this set of tyres has done mainly long distance riding with relatively few corners.
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Tj
Thanks mate, I knew you had used the Angels before, I spoke to the Pirelli rep Phillip Island earlier this year about them
But changed my mind when Pr4 came out. Did you go with the A spec like Saaz
I will have to check out the tyre places in Slacks Ck :thumb
saaz
The A spec rear comes in a 180/55/17 the OEM tyre is 170/60/17
I don't see a problem though :thumb
I will have to ring around to see what is available
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Have you tried Team Moto?
It looks like they have the Michelin Pilot Road 4 Front & Rear Tyres for $499
http://www.motorcyclesuperstore.com.au/on-road-accessories/tyres-road/michelin-tyres/16071-michelin-pilot-road-4-front-rear-tyre-special.html (http://www.motorcyclesuperstore.com.au/on-road-accessories/tyres-road/michelin-tyres/16071-michelin-pilot-road-4-front-rear-tyre-special.html)
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I didn't check whether the A spec was available for the ST1300, just assumed it would. Normal GT should be ok though, as that is what TJ must be using.
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ST1300
170/60 ZR 17 M/C (72W) TL rear
120/70 ZR 18 M/C (59W) TL front
The A spec tyre is not the normal size for the ST1300, and is not available. I don't use non standard sizes except in an emergency.
So, using the non spec A tyres appears pretty good to me, they are still the same set of tyres I had on for the run around Oz towards the end of last year (so that run, a run up to Barkley Homestead and back, plus all my running around back home, would have been over 20 thousand k so far) and I think there is still a good amount of tread on them, so much so i will be using them on a couple of runs that I have coming up shortly.
I will still go for the PR4 for my next set, if I can get them, if not then back to the Angel GT
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Tj
Thanks for your reply, I was at work today so could not ring around, I have a later start tomorrow
So hopefully can find something to replace my original Bridgestone's, I thought they would survive the Kyogle RTE and Inverell
But after returning from Kyogle they didn't look so good, so I have decided to replace them
So hopefully I trip next week to Brisbane to get new ones :thumb
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Well I changed my mind again, I have decided I really want to try the Michelin PR4 :grin
They say we won't see any in Australia for a few months as they are on back order
So I have ordered them through Jake Wilson in USA.
So I will still do Inverell on the original Bridgestone's then replace them after that :thumbsup
Thanks for all the reply's :hatwave
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How much can you save by buying from USA??
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How much can you save by buying from USA??
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Compared to our prices it's like getting a two for one deal. Price for a set (inc postage) in the US is close to buying just the rear over here but then you also need to have it fitted. Our car tyre dealer does it for $15 a wheel probably cause we live here.
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Ppopeye
They cost me $311 +$75 postage, I think you could save more if you buy 2 sets
You would Pay over$500 here to get them
But the main reason I got them from USA was because I could not get the Michelin PR4 here for now
Now just waiting to get them and try them out :grin
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Ppopeye
They cost me $311 +$75 postage, I think you could save more if you buy 2 sets
You would Pay over$500 here to get them
But the main reason I got them from USA was because I could not get the Michelin PR4 here for now
Now just waiting to get them and try them out :grin
Might be over $500 in Toowoomba. $460 fitted and balanced, including wheels off and on and moly lube here in Brissie.
Your $386 will need a bit added for fitting. Our dollar is sliding against the US$ which won't help in coming days.
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Ppopeye
They cost me $311 +$75 postage, I think you could save more if you buy 2 sets
You would Pay over$500 here to get them
But the main reason I got them from USA was because I could not get the Michelin PR4 here for now
Now just waiting to get them and try them out :grin
Might be over $500 in Toowoomba. $460 fitted and balanced, including wheels off and on and moly lube here in Brissie.
Your $386 will need a bit added for fitting. Our dollar is sliding against the US$ which won't help in coming days.
Biggles
I had all intention of riding to Brisbane to get them but no one could supply any, so I looked at other options
Get another Brand Pirelli Angel's) or go get some PR4's from the USA, probably next week a container full will turn up
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Our dollar is sliding against the US$ which won't help in coming days.
Yes, but that will also mean price rises for imported products (like tyres etc) in the shops over here as well.
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Well I changed my mind again, I have decided I really want to try the Michelin PR4 :grin
They say we won't see any in Australia for a few months as they are on back order
So I have ordered them through Jake Wilson in USA.
So I will still do Inverell on the original Bridgestone's then replace them after that :thumbsup
Thanks for all the reply's :hatwave
The Michelin PR4 GT left Jake Wilson today, So they should be here next week so I can have them fitted
when I get my 18,000km service :hatwave :runyay
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Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT all fitted up with the new right angle valve stems at my 18,000km service :thumb
The old Bridgestone didn't look very good after Inverell but made it
I also put in a K&N air filter and Iridium plugs :grin
Now just to find time to take it out for a spin :thumbsup
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I am just about due to change the tyres on my ST1300, Previously PR2s, Then Metzlers Roadtech Z8 which I have had a very good run with, very good grip wet and dry.14000 k on NZ roads , 4000 at all up weight. I was considering Angel GTs but had some negative feedback, so , Another set of Metzlers
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Angel gts are as good as the pr2s and 3s in all respects, just be sure to get the A spec versions for the st1300 to handle the weight. I am trying the pr4s next set
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Interesting that you have heard negative comments about the Angel GT - as I said above "I am still running a set of Angel GT on mine. They have been a good set of tyres as were the the PR3. I will be looking for the PR4 as well when it is time to re shod the bike."
These have been around Oz and then some, still have a bit of tread on them
What were the negative comments that you heard and were they from riders that had used them on their bike and was it an ST1300?
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I had asked a friend of mine who owns a number of bikes, and is an experienced rider, when I mentioned possibly fitting GTs he said a mates Z14 had them on and didnt get a very good performancefrom them. Dont ask how he handled his tyres, I dont know. I think this round I will stick with the Metzlers Z8s
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After a bit more research on GTs, Pirelli have flattened the profile a little more over the STs,which requires a fraction more turn in effort,definatly not a Z14 tyre,as it is more touring orintated which may explain the negative feedback
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The profile on the GTs is rather flat, so very consistent turn in, which helps on a heavier bike (more like some Dunlops I have used in the past). The PR3s are definitely more willing to go into corners. I have no real preference for either based on those characters alone. And the character will vary depending on the tyre size you use - I am basing this comparison on 170/60-17 front and 190/55-17 rears. The change in profile on the rear from 55 to 50 can change things a lot. And comparing to ST sizes is different again, as 120/70-18 front and 170/60-17 rear are totally different, so may feel very different to any other bike.
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After a bit more research on GTs, Pirelli have flattened the profile a little more over the STs,which requires a fraction more turn in effort,definatly not a Z14 tyre,as it is more touring orintated which may explain the negative feedback
Yep, that makes sense. Some tyres are good on a specific bike and not others. I would still be comfortable with the Angel GT on a Honda ST1300 and recommend them to others riding the same bike as I would be with the PR3 and hopefully the PR4 when I get them on my bike.
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Whatever tire is preferred, only use standard tyres on ABS models as non standard sizes can upset the ABS
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Whatever tire is preferred, only use standard tyres on ABS models as non standard sizes can upset the ABS
I've had dealers fit 160/60 (OEM 160/70) rears to my 1100A without issue: not that I would have chosen that size myself. I find the 1300 OEM 170/60 size a better option as I can get the GT spec tyres. The last two sets haven't given cause for concern with the ABS or the traction control.
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All good
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Angel gts are as good as the pr2s and 3s in all respects, just be sure to get the A spec versions for the st1300 to handle the weight. I am trying the pr4s next set
I just went from French to Italian tyres. Hope this Saaz bloke knows a thing or two about motorbikes...
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I've just got Metzler Z8 tyres fitted to my .ST1300, then managed to pick up a 50mm coach bolt in the rear tyre after 400 KS, all plugged up now and going well. An English mag I was reading recently mentioned during a test on a 1200rt BMW that the pirelli gt does not give assurance at higher touring speeds that the metzlers do.in fairness the speeds were not specified.
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French or Italian..I would be happy with both..oh, are we talking tyres....
Angel gts are as good as the pr2s and 3s in all respects, just be sure to get the A spec versions for the st1300 to handle the weight. I am trying the pr4s next set
I just went from French to Italian tyres. Hope this Saaz bloke knows a thing or two about motorbikes...
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I've just got Metzler Z8 tyres fitted to my .ST1300, then managed to pick up a 50mm coach bolt in the rear tyre after 400 KS, all plugged up now and going well. An English mag I was reading recently mentioned during a test on a 1200rt BMW that the pirelli gt does not give assurance at higher touring speeds that the metzlers do.in fairness the speeds were not specified.
depends on what mag you read
"The Angel GT is targeted at naked-bike, sport-touring, sportbike and touring riders who want multi-season traction and durability. Hence, bikes such as a Kawasaki Versys, Yamaha YZF-R1 and BMW R1200RT greeted us at Porsche’s Nardò Technical Centre, whose 3.8-mile road course provided fast sweeping corners, hairpins, undulating pavement, esses and even a 170-mph straight. We tried the new Pirelli Angel GT on five different motorcycles, and found it provided uniformly excellent feel, and a high degree of confidence and stability. The testing proved it’s a racetrack-capable sport-touring tire that also appears well suited for the road."
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I have only been up to 195kph on the GTs, but they feel fine at all the speeds I have done. The higher speed was in the NT legally. The PR3 perhaps felt a bit lighter, but this is being picky.
I've just got Metzler Z8 tyres fitted to my .ST1300, then managed to pick up a 50mm coach bolt in the rear tyre after 400 KS, all plugged up now and going well. An English mag I was reading recently mentioned during a test on a 1200rt BMW that the pirelli gt does not give assurance at higher touring speeds that the metzlers do.in fairness the speeds were not specified.
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fitted dunlop roadsmart some 6k ago seem OK
I have a gravel drive
the dunlops have a wider tread groove than the P3's
result more gravel in the shed, just something i noticed , with bare feet.
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fitted dunlop roadsmart some 6k ago seem OK
I have a gravel drive
the dunlops have a wider tread groove than the P3's
result more gravel in the shed, just something i noticed , with bare feet.
Unless you're Marc Márquez on a raceday, you shouldn't have any trouble with the Exedra Max Radials.
http://www.bridgestone.com/sc/exedra_max/technology/ (http://www.bridgestone.com/sc/exedra_max/technology/)
http://www.bridgestone.com/sc/exedra_max/size/honda.html (http://www.bridgestone.com/sc/exedra_max/size/honda.html)
The bloke at Tyres For Bikes in Perth http://www.tyresforbikes.com.au/index.html (http://www.tyresforbikes.com.au/index.html) recommended them as the toughest and longest wearing tyre for the ST1300s. My last front had about 15,000kms on it from riding around Australia and wear was hardly noticeable. As the ST was two up and towing a 150+kg trailer, the rear as copping a flogging and was changed in Perth. It had about 10,000kms on it and another few left in it, before the bike was taken out by the gate. Winding wet roads, such as the Great Ocean Road, were no trouble at all (so long as you stay off the green mossy parts at the western end!)
My new ST1300 has PR3 tyres and I rode it town on Tuesday and then about 10kms to meet with Scarlet Thunderbolt for smoko. :thumb
These tyres don't feel any better than the Exedra Max tyres did, in the dry.
It's very hard for a smooth "pilot" to out ride the grip of any of the top grade tyres on an ST1300, so it probably doesn't matter whether you get Metzeler Z8, Pirelli Angel GT, Michelin PR4, Bridgestone Exedra Max or T30 GT Radials etc. They all offer good grip and their wear rates are very much dependent on your riding styles and conditions.
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The bloke at Tyres For Bikes in Perth [url]http://www.tyresforbikes.com.au/index.html[/url] ([url]http://www.tyresforbikes.com.au/index.html[/url]) recommended them as the toughest and longest wearing tyre for the ST1300s.
When I first needed to change tyres on my 1100 and it was suggest I put on the old Dunlop D205. About 15,000km on the rear and at least 18,000 on the front. Can't hurt to have a look at them before I order from the US.