Flouro Vests to become compulsory???

[H3NDO]

Agreed! ... Thanks for the upload 

[Poppy Dave]

Worth watching Brett, cheers.

Dave                                                                 

[Biggles]

Good ideas there, for sure. 
I know some guys here have LED DRLs (Daylight Running Lights).
I wonder if flashing LEDs like the bicyclists use are effective?  I know I always see them.

[Brock]

I wonder if flashing LEDs like the bicyclists use are effective?  I know I always see them.

It seems that might draw unwanted attention Biggles, I suggested using flashing LEDs that matched the bike and Roper seemed to thing that the polds would get jealous. ( something about the strobing rednblues upset em)

[Biggles]

I wonder if flashing LEDs like the bicyclists use are effective?  I know I always see them.

It seems that might draw unwanted attention Biggles, I suggested using flashing LEDs that matched the bike and Roper seemed to thing that the polds would get jealous. ( something about the strobing rednblues upset em)

I'm thinking of clear white ones.  Wouldn't want anyone accusing me of being Plod impersonator.

[H3NDO]

mate IMHO, to get a white LED to be seen in daylight, on a bike, over the headlight glow, from a distance that would be benificialy to stop SMIDSY, would mean you would have to light up the whole nose cone which would look like it came out of the mardi gras 

But hey, Go for it as id be interested to see it but IMO youd better off pinging your headlight   

[ruSTyEB]

  Good video!  That knowledge will go into my survival toolkit.

[Maverick75]

I'm certainly not a fan of compulsory anything (including helmets). As motorcyclists we're already on the fringe as far as conformity is concerned. Many of us realise that it helps to hedge the bet in our favour and do everything we can. I doubt a high vis vest can even be seen front-on on any ST and wouldn't be terribly visible on any bike until riding past. However they can't hurt.

I really like the DRL concept. I have read that having them positioned as far away from the headlight as possible increases the 'visible frontal area' of the bike so maybe down on the crash wings would be a good position.

I very nearly missed a bike rider on the weekend in Toowoomba. Stopped at a side street waiting to pull out and only 'saw' him on the second left glance. I'm getting over the flu and the bike (a chopped Harley) had minimal frontal area and no working headlight. No excuse however, and it rattled me. If I'd been the typical texting distracted driver I would have pulled out on the poor bugger.

Stay safe.

[STeveo]

So to go back to the topic  (watching that video with the rider on the full faired bike WITH the fluro jacket on), sitting behind the fairing made it very hard to see the fluro jacket and the outline of the fluro colour blended in with the bike. To wear one on an ST would be the same. I will try his SIAM next time I come to a T junction and see if it makes any difference. As the lady said "we need to better educate car drivers", but doing things yourself to avoid not being seen has got to be worthwhile too.

 

[tj189]

mate IMHO, to get a white LED to be seen in daylight, on a bike, over the headlight glow, from a distance that would be benificialy to stop SMIDSY, would mean you would have to light up the whole nose cone which would look like it came out of the mardi gras 

But hey, Go for it as id be interested to see it but IMO youd better off pinging your headlight   

H3ndo, you might like to have a look at some of these or better still check out my bike sometime 
http://clearwaterlights.com/gallery.html

[alans1100]

This the French position from 01/01/2013.

The original ruling has been softened a liitle and is in effect brining the requirement in line with car drivers http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g187070-c98919/France:High.Visibility.Jackets.html  who have had to wear them since 2008.

http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/france-about-the-hi-viz-law-for-motorcycles.htm

Reflective Material
Starting 2013 (so next year), it will be mandatory to have Hi-Viz, reflective, material on your vest. The total size of the reflective material has to be 150 cm2. It does not have to be one piece; it can be several pieces, as long as the sum of the pieces is 150 cm2. So if you wear one or two Hi-Viz armbands, you're fine.

Who Has To Wear This?
Motorcycles and scooters with more than 125 cc, or more than 15 kW/h power. Also trikes will require to wear them. This means that mopeds (the ones that have a lot of accidents) do NOT have to wear them. Also 125cc vehicles are exempt. Strange but true.

So I wonder how far they will go if/when the rules are implemented over here?

[Brock]

I have a set of driving lights, Biggles was talking about flashing white. Anything that helps one get noticed is a good thing, but compulsory for bikes because of the failings of car/truck drivers

[Gavo]

I only use mine at night

confusing on comming trafic , that there is a truck comming

                                                                                                             

[H3NDO]

^^^^ 

STruck ???

[Gavo]

^^^^ 

STruck ???

Yeah like it                                                                         

[terrydj]

Had Roo whistles on my bike for a while until I figured out I had purchased the African Model that keeps Elephants, Rhino's and Giraffes from crossing in front of you.
Figured out they were the African model cause I never seen any Elephants, Rhino's and Giraffes but still saw heaps of Roo's

[Tipsy]

Had Roo whistles on my bike for a while until I figured out I had purchased the African Model that keeps Elephants, Rhino's and Giraffes from crossing in front of you.
Figured out they were the African model cause I never seen any Elephants, Rhino's and Giraffes but still saw heaps of Roo's

 

[Diesel]

Anyone who's seen my ST13 coming towards them INSTANTLY NOTICES the 6000K HIDs in the main headlight array.

At this temperature - they are 'whiter than the sun' and therefore stand out from any reflections etc.

This has stopped close calls since I installed them (from in front of me anyway), and also lights up the road well at night.

This does not mean they blind oncoming drivers, as they are a set, directional beam, same as OEM halogens - just that they are peculiarly 'white' and get noticed.

Cheers, Diesel

[Streak]

Children.......

[terrydj]

First met tj189 in the middle of nowhere at a servo and all I know is this.
The man doesn't just own a bike but rides it and does the kays. Probably why I talk to him.
Checked out his bike more than once and everything on it works, is the best you can get, and does the job.
When I first met him he had on a Flouro Vest over the jacket and the bloody best you can get (Olympia) I know cause I got me one after the truck hit me.
As the man says "Each to their own H3ndo, we do what we think may be safer for us"

[bluehonda]

Is it just me or are some members getting personal and criticising others?

[Brock]

Is it just me or are some members getting personal and criticising others?

Dont worry, we are watching, and will smite should the need arise.

[Maverick75]

Regarding visibility; I've never gotten as much respect on a bike as when riding my uncle's previous ST, a '96 police. Those sucker's really get noticed.

I don't think it matters that they've gone to Beemers and FJRs, all the cagers see is BIG WHITE BIKE. A few reflective strips go down well on a BIG WHITE BIKE too  .

[Brock]

Several comments not pertaining to the thread have been removed.

Keep to the topic Gents.

[tj189]

Had Roo whistles on my bike for a while until I figured out I had purchased the African Model that keeps Elephants, Rhino's and Giraffes from crossing in front of you.
Figured out they were the African model cause I never seen any Elephants, Rhino's and Giraffes but still saw heaps of Roo's