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Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« on: October 12, 2014, 12:47:01 PM »
Any ideas on something that can go on top of Panniers to stop being scratched by pillion as they throw leg over the bike (bar using touch up paint).
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2014, 12:52:59 PM »
There are some strong clear vinyl self adhesive materials available.  You might try a search on some of those terms, as it was discussed in this Forum a fair while ago.  Apparently sign writers use a suitable product.
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2014, 12:53:18 PM »
Some use a clear contact adhesive.

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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2014, 01:27:47 PM »
Honda part number 08P73-KBV-800 and is a generic item for all models so your local dealer should be able to get it but at what cost?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3M-Genuine-Honda-A4-A-4-Sheet-of-Self-Adhesive-Paint-Work-Protective-Clear-Film-/170930709545

David Silver Spares (UK) shows as being out of stock but priced cheaper than the eBay seller

It appears from the eBay link that it's made by 3M so maybe a search for a local retailer from the company website might be best.
 
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2014, 03:50:31 PM »
From an earlier post about this http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2612.msg27219#msg27219

Found this part number 08P76-MCS-100 for a Saddlebag Scuff Pad Set

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-08P76-MCS-100.html
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2014, 08:54:30 PM »
Get them to do leg stretches to nimble up before mounting..... :rofl
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 01:55:53 PM »
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I'd go carbon fibre as I think its more durable  than clear contact. previously I found the glue on clear contact yellowed from heat and age,
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 10:17:12 PM »
Been thinking about this ever since I bought my ST1300 6 or 7 weeks ago as my panniers have the clear protection tape which, to me looks pretty ordinary and, at the end of the day still shows up scuffs & scratches.

Anyhow, I got to thinking and I've come up with this...



Bear in mind this is only laid over it at the moment and not actually stuck in position.

I used one of these:

Now, assuming I go ahead with it, does anyone know of an easy way to get the clear plastic off without marking the paint?

Feedback, good or bad welcome... :popcorn

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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 10:31:08 PM »
You could wear socks over your boots, after all Super Man wears his jocks over his tights.....

Dont know hwoow to get the plastic off... o:) o:)
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 10:58:19 PM »
:rofl

Thanks Brock, I've passed your suggestion on to the missus...  :grin


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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 08:17:27 AM »
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 08:50:18 AM »
Being non slip rubber, they might make it more difficult for your pillion to get on and off.   I see two reasons.....   (1) The little bit of extra height means legs need to be lifted higher to clear the pannier making boot strikes more likely, and (2) being non slip, if a boot does touch the rubber, it won't slide, but catch making mounting and dismounting even more difficult.   Your proposed panels don't look to bad, but do they look better than a few fine scratches?

I had a signwriter cover the tops of my ST1300 panniers with "signwritere clear" sheet, which protected the pannier tops from boot strikes, and I've done the same with the Beemer.    However, a good polish will get most boot marks off the paintwork, and a decent auto painter can colour match/repaint the lids every ten years if they get too bad, so doing nothing is an option.   Talk to a signwriter about getting your acetate sheet off, as they are always removing such material from painted surfaces  (My son was a signwriter)
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 09:41:40 AM »
Thanks for the feedback, StinkyPete!  ++

The rubber is probably only 1mm thick so the extra height (hopefully) wouldn't be a problem... :/

The scratches and scuffs, under the right light conditions really stand out although I've given them a cut & polish which helped a little.
The "clear" has also been applied in 2 sections side by side so that also makes it look a little unsightly with a build up of polish etc in between.

As per your suggestion I might see if there's a local signwriter in town and see what he suggests, perhaps, if he can get the current "clear" off I may very well replace it with some new "clear" sheeting... :/

Thanks again for your comments... :thumbs


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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 06:32:53 PM »
I believe there is a product car detailers use called Prepsol, which removes tar and all sorts from paint, possibly even adhesive residue.

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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2019, 12:19:09 PM »
Thanks for that, Gadget!  ++


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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2019, 02:03:14 PM »
Should be able to get Prepsol from any paint supplier. Its a degreaser/dewaxer ( Preparation Solution) for painting prep..
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2019, 06:28:02 PM »
Find someone who does car wrapping get them to cover with there clear
 
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2020, 11:10:34 PM »
Well, I finally took the plunge and removed the clear protection tape...
It ended up being a bit of a non event as removal was quite easy simply using Sue's hairdryer.

While the tape was easily removed, the residual glue wasn't quite so easy. It took multiple applications & rubbing first with metho and then eucalyptus oil.
On the second pannier it was even more stubborn resulting in me finally resorting to using one of those fine mesh kitchen scrubbers which eventually cleaned it off.

A quick going over with some fine "cutters" and then a polish had them looking pretty much like new again...  :thumbs



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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2020, 11:06:29 AM »
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2020, 12:42:05 PM »
Thanks Brock!  :thumbs

At this stage I'm still thinking of putting the rubber "protection" on top of the panniers.
I'm just waiting on some doublesided tape that I ordered on eBay.
If that doesn't work out I'll just revert back to the way they are now...  Wot thuh

After the success removing the "clear" from the panniers, I'm tempted to remove the "clear" from the side covers...  :think1


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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2020, 02:28:33 PM »
You could try a clear wrap, and iff you dont like it its pretty easy to remove.
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Re: Panniers - How to stop being scratched
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2020, 08:05:29 PM »
As I already have the rubber I'll just see how that goes first.
If it looks crappy I guess I can always rip it off and look at other options...
I'm not aware of any companies doing clear wrap up this way and even if there was, I suspect it would cost way more than I'm willing to shell out especially with this covid 19 thing happening...  :think1


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