BAGSTER tank clips

[ruSTynutz]

After looking at those pics it doesn't look like it would be that hard to fashion one from aluminium... 

Of course, if you can print one up on a 3D printer that's strong enough, all the better! 

[Williamson]

After looking at those pics it doesn't look like it would be that hard to fashion one from aluminium... 

Over to you then Russell. 

Of course, if you can print one up on a 3D printer that's strong enough, all the better! 

I know nuffink about 3D printers, but as an original is not available, I suppose it a matter of programming it with all of the data available and keep fingers crossed.

[ruSTynutz]

Over to you then Russell. 

I probably would have a go at making my own rather than spending a motser on one from OS especially at the price they are asking...but, as I don't have a Bagster, I don't need to...

[ruSTynutz]

I know nuffink about 3D printers, but as an original is not available, I suppose it a matter of programming it with all of the data available and keep fingers crossed.

Do you want to learn about them? I have 2 3D printers (packed away in boxes) in my garage you can have... 

[Dragonstaff]

Thanks Michael. I will see what I can do.

[Dragonstaff]

I know nuffink about 3D printers, but as an original is not available, I suppose it a matter of programming it with all of the data available and keep fingers crossed.

Do you want to learn about them? I have 2 3D printers (packed away in boxes) in my garage you can have... 

What are they Rusty? Bloody Enders?

I have an Ender 3 that the boys got me for Father's Day last year. Bloody useless piece of junk. You spend more time fiddling with it than you do making successful prints. I haven't switched it on since the last time it failed back in January.

[ruSTynutz]

What are they Rusty? Bloody Enders?

I have an Ender 3 that the boys got me for Father's Day last year. Bloody useless piece of junk. You spend more time fiddling with it than you do making successful prints. I haven't switched it on since the last time it failed back in January.

No idea what they are as I inherited them when my brother passed.
I think he paid something like 8 or 9 hundred dollars each for them at the time.
Unfortunately old tech now so probably worth next to nothing.
I have a box full of the plastic filament in assorted colours too...

[StinkyPete]

I've recently upgraded from a Prusa Mini to a Prusa Mk4.    It can print bigger objects at about twice the speed of the Mini, and Prusa printers are rock solid reliable     I'd be reluctant to print those clips, as 3d printed items are layered, a bit like the grain in wood, and will always have a weakness in the plane of the layers.  Choosing the orientaton for the print can help with strength.

However, I'd make the clips out of aluminium, as its just a bit of flat material with a couple of slots and then bent to form a hook.

[ruSTynutz]

I'd be reluctant to print those clips, as 3d printed items are layered, a bit like the grain in wood, and will always have a weakness in the plane of the layers.  Choosing the orientaton for the print can help with strength.

That was my concern too, but I thought that perhaps more modern printers did a better job than they did approximately 8 years ago when my brother played around with them...

However, I'd make the clips out of aluminium, as its just a bit of flat material with a couple of slots and then bent to form a hook.

That was my thinkin'... 

[Langers]

Perhaps being plastic they are less likely to scratch the tank paint work.

[ruSTynutz]

You could put some insulation tape between the hook and the tank to protect it... 

[Williamson]

.... 3d printed items are layered, a bit like the grain in wood, and will always have a weakness in the plane of the layers.  Choosing the orientaton for the print can help with strength.

I only pull lightly on the retaining strap, there's not a lot of stress on them.

You could put some insulation tape between the hook and the tank to protect it... 

Or perhaps some shrink plastic.  Either way, I have an issue with having to develop a solution to a problem that developed with the original solution.  Could be why Mr Honda decided to mke 'em out of plastic rather than metal.

[Langers]

Or perhaps some shrink plastic.  Either way, I have an issue with having to develop a solution to a problem that developed with the original solution.  Could be why Mr Honda decided to mke 'em out of plastic rather than metal.

I think you'll find it is the Frogs who make Bagster gear

[Williamson]

Or perhaps some shrink plastic.  Either way, I have an issue with having to develop a solution to a problem that developed with the original solution.  Could be why Mr Honda decided to mke 'em out of plastic rather than metal.

I think you'll find it is the Frogs who make Bagster gear

  Of course, what was I thinking?

[Dragonstaff]

Righty oh. Better later than never.

I have, with the help of a mate who can fly Fusion 360 much better then I (I can't) come up with a design for these from Williamson's measurements, and printed two out. They are bright orange because that is what was in the printer, but I can change that to black, white, red, blue, or grey if required.

Who wants to be the tester for me? Williamson? StormST? Someone else?

Pm me an address and I will post a couple out.

[Biggles]

I like them (in black).  I wonder if the printer is able to make the angle smaller so the clips would lay flatter.  The originals come with two slots to feed the tape through but I just use one of the slots and tie the tape off with a pass under itself.

[Dragonstaff]

I like them (in black).  I wonder if the printer is able to make the angle smaller so the clips would lay flatter.  The originals come with two slots to feed the tape through but I just use one of the slots and tie the tape off with a pass under itself.

A shallower angle or a shorter short leg, Biggles?

The pics Williamson put up made me think that the strap was actually sown at that point and tightened elsewhere, so if that bit needs to be longer and have two slots in it, that could be done. I would make it longer so as to not lose too much strength. They are printed standing on edge so that the layers are perpendicular to the direction of pull from the strap.

Would you like me to send you some to try?

[Biggles]

I like them (in black).  I wonder if the printer is able to make the angle smaller so the clips would lay flatter.  The originals come with two slots to feed the tape through but I just use one of the slots and tie the tape off with a pass under itself.

A shallower angle or a shorter short leg, Biggles?

The pics Williamson put up made me think that the strap was actually sown at that point and tightened elsewhere, so if that bit needs to be longer and have two slots in it, that could be done. I would make it longer so as to not lose too much strength. They are printed standing on edge so that the layers are perpendicular to the direction of pull from the strap.

Would you like me to send you some to try?

I'm sure I'm not the only one in here with an opinion!  Can someone confirm they originally came with two slots and were intended to be tightened by pulling through the two?  As I said, it's been a long time since I adopted using one slot and tying off the strap by feeding it under itself and the back between into a hitch.
Regarding the angle- a shorter leg would still work and reduce the protrusion of the clip.  It only needs to hook under the tank and is held there by the tension on the strap.