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Honda ST1100 Section => Oils, Oil Filters & Servicing ST1100 => Topic started by: Andrew_02ST on October 04, 2015, 08:50:43 AM

Title: Servicing help
Post by: Andrew_02ST on October 04, 2015, 08:50:43 AM
Hi all,

My ST is approaching 70,000kms and with this I want to do a service. I bought the bike in July and as such this will be the first service under my ownership.

I'm in two minds as whether to DIY or to get a mechanic to do it as I'm not that mechanically savvy (I could tackle an oil change / final drive oil change but that's probably about it), and also if I get a mechanic to do it they may notice other things along the way that require attention / replacement that I may not see myself.

Two things -

1. What should a 70km service entail (I'd probably like all fluids done to start fresh at a minimum)

2. What should I expect to pay a mechanic to carry out such?

Thanks, Andrew.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: StinkyPete on October 04, 2015, 09:08:18 AM
Andrew,
My 71,000 service was carried out on 20/11/12 by a dealer here in Adelaide.  It was a book scheduled service and all items on the service list were carried out, including a valve clearance check, which showed all within spec.   Labour was $495, and parts including plugs, oil, filter, air cleaner element, washers etc came to $210, for a total of $705.   This was one of the costliest services that I have had done.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Andrew_02ST on October 04, 2015, 09:12:41 AM
 :-[ oh dear...
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Brock on October 04, 2015, 09:18:17 AM
Engine oil, oil filter, brake and clutch fluid (not hard, just fiddly), coolant if you want, final drive is easy (doesnt use much). Check your brake pads.

The book seems to call for a plug change, however mine have been in for ever (100000 Ks +)

Its all doable by yourself, a mechanic will cost a lot.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Andrew_02ST on October 04, 2015, 09:24:39 AM
Hmm, well with that perhaps I will pluck up the courage to have a crack at it myself, or even do what I'm confident with and get a mechanic to do the leftovers.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Brock on October 04, 2015, 09:56:25 AM
To start, Run engine for about ten min or ride to Repco for oil and filter and drain pan and oil syringe and brake bleed kit.

Get bike up on centre stand.

Remove oil filler cap, place drain under oil drain point. remove plug and let oil drain.

While draining oil, using icecream bucket or takeaway container , remove final drive filler plug, and drain plug. catch oil (about 30ml). refit drain plug, using syringe, fill final drive with Hypoid 80-90 oil, fit cap

Wash hands, time for beer, coffee or lunch


Time for a rest, wash hands and have a beer, coffee or lunch..

Remove 3 screws on left side lover fairing (the dark grey one), it will now move enough to allow hand to get in and remove oil filter, (place rag over exhaust first, as some oil will spill. Wipe oil on rubber seal of new filter, and screw it on until it stops. grasp firmly, and turn for 1/4 to 1/2 turn to ensure good tight fit that will come off next time.

Refit oil drain plug, wipe excess away from sump, refill oil  to top of fill line in sight glass. fit filler cap. Run engine for a minute or two to fill filter, stop and let oil settle, check level. It should be about middle of sight glass.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Andrew_02ST on October 04, 2015, 10:11:40 AM
Excellent, thank you.

Is there a 'how to' for brake / clutch / coolant on the forum that you could point me in the direction to?

Really appreciate it, cheers.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Gadget on October 04, 2015, 10:41:01 AM
Remember to remove the filler caps first.

This prevents "glugging" (as the air rushes in through the drain) which makes catching the oil harder because it falls over a wider range from close to the drain to a few inches away.

With the filler cap removed it has a steady stream until close to the end.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Brock on October 04, 2015, 10:49:52 AM
Bugger,

Just did a how to for brakes, and lost it... :|||| :||||
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: alans1100 on October 04, 2015, 11:00:59 AM
Remember to remove the filler caps first.

I have never taken the oil cap off while draining.........never had issues with oil draining either.....if I remember I'll remove on next oil change.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: alans1100 on October 04, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Hi all,

My ST is approaching 70,000kms and with this I want to do a service. I bought the bike in July and as such this will be the first service under my ownership.

I'm in two minds as whether to DIY or to get a mechanic to do it as I'm not that mechanically savvy (I could tackle an oil change / final drive oil change but that's probably about it), and also if I get a mechanic to do it they may notice other things along the way that require attention / replacement that I may not see myself.

Two things -

1. What should a 70km service entail (I'd probably like all fluids done to start fresh at a minimum)

2. What should I expect to pay a mechanic to carry out such?

Thanks, Andrew.

Next service is due at 72000 and is a major one so basically change all fluids plus oil/air filter, plugs and valve clearance inspection but I only changed fluids back then.
I've copied the maintenance schedule from the owners manual for you so just run down under the 36,000 km column for what needs to be done at 72,000.

That being said; the plugs on mine were first changed at 120,000 as was the air cleaner, valve check (still within tolerance then) and carb sync (bike never ran the same since).

Reminds me; I must do final drive when I do next oil change.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Brock on October 04, 2015, 12:40:45 PM
I replaced the air filter at around 40000ks, it was clean as a whisle but I already had the new one so it went in. Its been there ever since, a few inspections but all good.

I dont think my plugs have ever ben changed, I havent. I lokked at them once but they were nice n clean, and the engine runs well so dont fix what aint broke.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: StinkyPete on October 04, 2015, 12:46:16 PM
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4989.msg111702#new (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4989.msg111702#new)

You will find the ST1300 Workshop Manual, provided by Brock,  at the link above.  That wlll give you all the insturctions you need for oil change, brake pads, air cleaner and all the other stuff that's been mentioned.    My bike has 135,000km on it and valve clearances have remained in spec.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: Gadget on October 04, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Remember to remove the filler caps first.

I have never taken the oil cap off while draining.........never had issues with oil draining either.....if I remember I'll remove on next oil change.
My experiences were based on LandRovers and trucks in the Army. Warmed oil certainly drains quicker.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: alans1100 on October 04, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
[url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4989.msg111702#new[/url] ([url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4989.msg111702#new[/url])

You will find the ST1300 Workshop Manual, provided by Brock,  at the link above.  That wlll give you all the insturctions you need for oil change, brake pads, air cleaner and all the other stuff that's been mentioned.    My bike has 135,000km on it and valve clearances have remained in spec.
Sorry Pete; not much good as he as an 1100 in his profile pic. I think there's an 1100 one on here somewhere that Brock put up.
Title: Re: Servicing help
Post by: StinkyPete on October 04, 2015, 01:01:23 PM
[url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4989.msg111702#new[/url] ([url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4989.msg111702#new[/url])

You will find the ST1300 Workshop Manual, provided by Brock,  at the link above.  That wlll give you all the insturctions you need for oil change, brake pads, air cleaner and all the other stuff that's been mentioned.    My bike has 135,000km on it and valve clearances have remained in spec.
Sorry Pete; not much good as he as an 1100 in his profile pic. I think there's an 1100 one on here somewhere that Brock put up.


Ooops!    I guess Andrew now has the info if he ever upgrades.    :beer