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New Tyre
« on: August 09, 2018, 11:20:12 PM »
New rear Bridgestone of some type fitted today over at Northern Motorcycles in Port Augusta.

Looking at the code on the receipt it maybe a BT54 which I thought were long dead; cost $270 fitted.

However the RH exhaust clamp is a no go. It's rusted and broke while tightening the bolts. New one ordered and they'll post it when it arrives; cost around $30. Have the old clamp at home so I can remove the bolts; fairly expensive it seems.

No difference in the exhaust note so the clamp may have just been sitting there not doing anything. There's always been some back firing which could be caused by cold air getting in at that point when you back off the throttle.

Not sure what was on the back but I did see Road Pilot on the side wall while checking out for the leak.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 02:23:37 PM »
Will be interesting to see how you fare with the Bridgestone. I didn't find they wore very well. The Pilot Road is a Michelin which a lot of us are running on the 13's. I got 28,000 out of my last rear PR4. The Angel is a Pirelli I think.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 05:50:30 PM »
The previously mentioned RH exhaust clamp that was ordered arrived today and rather than the bike shop post it we're riding over in the morning and hopefully it can be fitted if we hang around for awhile; bike has to cool off anyway so we can wall over the hill to KFC.

I took the old clamp down to the tyre place in town and the bolts were successfully removed and some anti-seize stuff applied. Have no idea how the clamp and bolts have been treated and I couldn't budge them which is why I took them when getting fuel for tomorrow's ride.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2019, 02:17:59 PM »
Will be interesting to see how you fare with the Bridgestone. I didn't find they wore very well.
So far it's done around 8,000 km with and estimated 2000 plus of life yet. It will need replacing after the border run.

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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2019, 10:12:17 PM »
A hammer, a section of scaf tube and some gentle persuasion mean that you don't need to take the RH hand muffler off to remove the axle  :grin
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2019, 12:12:22 AM »
A hammer, a section of scaf tube and some gentle persuasion mean that you don't need to take the RH hand muffler off to remove the axle  :grin
The dealer did the last tyre change and I don't know what he did but to me I reckon just undoing the exhaust mount on the frame and the muffler should lift enough for the axle to come out.

Just a shoddy design compared to the 1100

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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2019, 12:27:37 AM »
A hammer, a section of scaf tube and some gentle persuasion mean that you don't need to take the RH hand muffler off to remove the axle  :grin
The dealer did the last tyre change and I don't know what he did but to me I reckon just undoing the exhaust mount on the frame and the muffler should lift enough for the axle to come out.

Just a shoddy design compared to the 1100
Fairly sure that does not give you enough movement. Hard to understand why the 1100 muffler has the clearance but not the 1300
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2019, 02:13:20 AM »

Fairly sure that does not give you enough movement. Hard to understand why the 1100 muffler has the clearance but not the 1300
1100 mufflers are designed at the bottom with an hemispherical section to allow the axle bolt to slide out.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 06:27:30 PM »

[/quote]1100 mufflers are designed at the bottom with an hemispherical section to allow the axle bolt to slide out.
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With the help of a hammer and scaf pipe so are the staintunes on my 1300
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 05:54:50 PM »
Will be interesting to see how you fare with the Bridgestone. I didn't find they wore very well.
So far it's done around 8,000 km with and estimated 2000 plus of life yet. It will need replacing after the border run.



Never made it to the Border Run after a puncture. http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=13210.msg1257534#msg1257534

Out with a bit of soap and found a small hole which could have been made by anything and whatever caused it was long gone.

It's small enough to plug but given the estimated remaining tyre life (about 2,000 km) it's probably better to just replace it. Though it could be good time to at least see if the tyre plugs I have do work.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2019, 06:01:52 PM »
Nothing to lose by trying.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2019, 08:07:08 AM »
Got a puncture in a very worn rear tyre while leaving a camp site in northern California on the day before it had been booked it in for replacement. I used some old puncture repair plugs that were very difficult to get in because the "goo" was quite dry. Anyway, I struggled for an hour or so and then inflated the tyre with 3 of those little gas bottles and that bought the pressure up to just under 20psi. Enough to ride to a servo and pump the tyre up to full pressure. Rode for 6 hours to the place I had booked and the tyre held pressure without a problem. I was seriously impressed given the difficulty of the repair.
 

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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2019, 03:34:37 PM »
First fine day in over a week so I went to the 1300 and plugged the hole in the rear tyre.

I wasn't sure how to do it but sometimes YouTube is your friend https://youtu.be/M5_nK8V-nU0

I waited on the repair to dry for about an hour before I let the air compressor loose and now waiting to see what happens.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2019, 09:28:16 PM »
I use the stopngo tyre plug kit



It is dead easy to use, much easier than the goey rope things, and not as messy

can be had here.

https://www.ebay.com.au/p/Stop-Go-Pocket-Tire-Plugger-for-Tubeless-Tires-1000/1244598871

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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2019, 11:41:12 PM »
The last time I checked the tyre was about 5:30 pm local time and as far as I could tell still had pressure. Kicked the tyre and it seemed solid enough.

I use the stopngo tyre plug kit
Thanks, a bit pricey compared to mine.

The plugs I bought cost $12 about five years ago from the local supermarket. They have been sitting in the trailer for about that long and not needed on the 1100.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2019, 01:21:56 AM »
Pressure holding with my first ever attempt at plugging a tyre.

Rode the bike down the shop today and with the 1100 now off the road with the gear selector issue I'm thinking of taking the 1300 for Saturday's RTE which is around 170 km away. Though I would also be taking the repair kit and compressor with me; thinking of Murphy's law.

Knowing that this supposed to be fix just to get you home or to a place of repair there are quite a few comments on the video suggesting the plugs have lasted until it's time to replace the tyre at the end of its useful life

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2019, 04:49:44 AM »
My plug I fixed in North Bourke on my four state tour lasted until I had an unrelated puncture on the Great Ocean Road thousands of kilomtres later.
 

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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2019, 09:10:16 PM »
I decided to support our local tyre dealer with the next set of tyres for our 1300A and get some Bridgestone T31 GTs. Hopefully they do better than the current BT 54 which has done 10,500 km. They're getting a price for the rear and if all goes well should be on by the end of next week.

Now all i have to do is work out how to get the wheel off or at least see how different it is to doing the 1100.

By the way I had to do another puncture repair on the same tyre - makes two punctures on the same rear tyre.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2019, 10:02:43 PM »
I believe that removal is pretty much the same as the 1100, except that the right muffler needs to come of to remove the bolt.

Michelin PR4 is the way to go for wear and handling, in excess of 20000 ks but they arent cheap ( but cheaper than 2 cheap tyres at half the distance)
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2019, 09:59:54 PM »
You don’t need to remove the muffler,. Once the rear muffler mount bolt is removed there’s enough flex in the muffler to push it up and slide the axle bolt out.
 
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2019, 01:16:05 PM »
You don’t need to remove the muffler,. Once the rear muffler mount bolt is removed there’s enough flex in the muffler to push it up and slide the axle bolt out.
That works for me.

Looking at the parts diagram it's a lot better than the 1100 and less to go wrong.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2019, 08:30:25 PM »
I just remove the two mounting bolts, slacken clamp nuts and flip exhaust down.
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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2019, 06:50:25 AM »
hello  guys and girls have got my 2008 st 1300 Pain European with about are 78,000 k’s on it I’m looking to change exhaust pipes to make a little bit more nicer sounding improved low down  talk and little bit so is anyone that’s ideas for me please cheers 🍻  :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2019, 09:03:49 AM »
...... I’m looking to change exhaust pipes to make a little bit more nicer sounding improved low down  talk and little bit so is anyone that’s ideas for me please cheers .....

Take your pick, but a bit (?) expensive!
https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=honda+st1300+exhaust&_sacat=0&_sop=16

I too would like the ST to have a bit of a "note", but not sure if any of these will improve low down torque, either way I can't justify the costs.

On the matter of torque, the ST1300 is nowhere near as torquey and the CB1300 (that the ST replaced).  The ST's gearing is higher than the CB's to the point where the ST's 4th is the equivalent to the CB's 5th.  On a regular ride to Noojee (don't forget the RTE Sunday 13 October), I would only need to occasionally drop too 4th gear on the CB, whereas on the ST 3rd gear is used frequently, and 2nd gear is also needed at times - if riding is spirited.  Perhaps the 80kg difference in mass is imprtant here.

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Re: New Tyre
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2019, 01:45:19 PM »
Nothing will change the ST torque curve, its very flat, many have tried various expensive methods but nothing works.

On the 1100, I rarely change down, even going through the hills, just wind on throttle as required.
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