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Title: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 08, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
I have just purchased one of these new fangled blue tooth head sets, I'm interested in those who have used them before over some time. The good the bad and any relevant feedback.
I'm doing my first ride with them tomorrow so it will be interesting to see if they are as good all the reviews make them out to be. I'm also interested in how they interface with a two way radio as I have found little information on how to do this.
I have Earmould headphones and I like the gouchy 3.5mm jack on the front of the base, very neat and tidy way of getting connected. I'll be interested to see if they are much better than my old Autocom system which they are replacing. I was getting very frustrated not being able to use my phone on the bike so that is why I took the plunge on the 20S, the radio seems to work well but it will be interesting to see how well it works on the move.
cheers
Keith
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Williamson on January 08, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
I'm pretty happy with my pair of Sena 20S, but ........

.... the radio seems to work well but it will be interesting to see how well it works on the move ....

....... the FM receiver does not have a very good range.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 08, 2016, 07:20:58 PM
OK ta, might be phone music over longer rides methinks.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on January 08, 2016, 07:59:27 PM
Keith, I have been using the 20S since it came.  Great bit of kit.
The point regarding the FM above is correct ok around town with strong signals.
Works well in conjunction with the SR10 for UHF comms.
I have the music and phone go through a garmin 590lm up to the 20S as well as the SR10 going to the 20S.
Should get around 8 hours, depends on how much it is being used (with music etc). 

On my rides once it tells me "low battery" I then plug the charger into it as I go along the road. Takes a couple of hours to charge but you can use it at the same time.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 09, 2016, 12:22:20 PM
First ride today with the 20S, have to say I wish I had changed years ago instead of sinking more dead money into my old Autocom system. Love the radio and auto leveling feature that lifts the volume as the ambient noise increases. I listened to the radio all the way and it did get a little interference as we moved further away from the city but overall was more than happy with it's performance. I think on a long trip music will be from my phone play list as re tuning on the move seems a little difficult.
Not sure how to adjust the sensitivity of the voice control as it was pretty hit and miss if it worked.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Brock on January 09, 2016, 12:25:55 PM
Adjusting vox settings is done easily by computer
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: STroppy on January 09, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
Adjusting vox settings is done easily by computer

Easier still via smartphone Ap . . Android or Apple . .
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Crocman on January 10, 2016, 06:15:27 AM
Sena 20s is what you pay for i had no probs and is easy to use once you watch a few youtube clips i think there a great investment they can only improve in the next model.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on January 12, 2016, 11:19:19 AM
Adjusting vox settings is done easily by computer

How?
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on January 12, 2016, 11:19:41 AM
Adjusting vox settings is done easily by computer

Easier still via smartphone Ap . . Android or Apple . .

How?
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: STroppy on January 12, 2016, 11:36:38 AM
I have an iPhone but I am sure Google Android would have a similar Ap in their store.

So for use on the iPhone just go to Ap store, search for Sena, choose the Ap, download (it is free), then using blutooth on your phone pair phone and 20s, open ap - it should recognise the 20s and then you can adjust any of the settings.

The ap does not work with the Sena 10.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Brock on January 12, 2016, 02:17:04 PM
With a PC, plug the supplied USB cable into the sena device, and plug it into your puter. Various driver will load, followed by a prompt to download the sena device manager.

This will look for software updates for your device, after which, look at the menu items (on the left I think) for the settings option. you can see the settings of your unit, and make changes.

For an android device, go to the playstore, and look for sena. download the app and run it . the app will search for you device (bluetooth) and then you can adjust all sorts of things.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on January 14, 2016, 01:45:40 PM
Thanks guys, I thought you might have a new way of doing that.  Been using the applications already  :thumb
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 29, 2016, 12:35:09 PM
I'm considering getting a UHF radio, I'm looking for an adaptor for the 20s. Does anyone have advise on if the 20s can be fitted with a UHF adaptor?
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 29, 2016, 12:41:14 PM
I also forgot to ask if you set a default item like the FM Radio to come on automatically when you start the device as I hate going through the process for a 10 minute ride to work twice a day. Surely the must be an option or maybe they could include it in a future firmware update?????
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Brock on January 29, 2016, 03:04:27 PM
By UHF adapter, I think you mean the Sena SR10. The cable you need will depend on the radio you buy. There are many ready made leads available, and a generic lead that can be made to suit any radio with a bit of tinkering.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 29, 2016, 08:59:48 PM
No I have a Sena 20S, I have found the UHF leads for the 10 but not one for the 20s.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Brock on January 29, 2016, 09:15:31 PM
There are no leads for the 20S. The SR10 is a bluetooth interface unit.

You connect the UHF to the SR10, and pair the 10 with the 20.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on January 29, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
I also forgot to ask if you set a default item like the FM Radio to come on automatically when you start the device as I hate going through the process for a 10 minute ride to work twice a day. Surely the must be an option or maybe they could include it in a future firmware update?????

Not automatic but only a 2second hold of the phone button.

11.1 FM Radio On / Off
To turn on the FM radio, press and hold the Phone Button for 2 seconds
until you hear a mid-tone double beep sound. You will then hear a
voice prompt saying “FM on”. In order to turn off the FM radio, press
and hold the Phone Button for 2 seconds until you hear a voice prompt
saying “FM off”. When you power off, the 20S will remember the last
station frequency. When you power it on, the last station frequency will
be playing.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: DaleMcLean on January 30, 2016, 05:51:20 AM
OR
You can say out loud "hello Sena" and get a reply of "say a command", then say "FM Radio" and Mrs sena will turn it on for you  :thumbsup

As for UHF Brock covered it. SR-10 sends it BT to the 20S, you cable the UHF to the SR-10 (and a PTT supplied with the SR-10) and all is good for lots of voices in your head
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Brock on January 30, 2016, 08:38:06 AM
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voices in your head

Ahhh Yes, the voices,,,,,,they are real you know....
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on January 30, 2016, 09:00:21 AM
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voices in your head

Ahhh Yes, the voices,,,,,,they are real you know....

That's why I use the button, otherwise it gets too crowded in the helmet  :crazy
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 30, 2016, 05:49:44 PM
Thanks for the heads up on both the 2 second phone button press and the SR10. I feel a bit conspicuous talking to Sena when there are people around, you do get some funny looks like you are talking to yourself.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Brock on January 30, 2016, 09:07:53 PM
Just tell them you are replying to voices in your head

 o:) o:) o:)
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: basadia on January 31, 2016, 03:28:18 PM
Checked the two second button press for FM radio this morning and it works like a charm. Thanks for the heads up on this one much easier than yelling at Sena.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on February 05, 2016, 10:24:55 PM
Checked the two second button press for FM radio this morning and it works like a charm. Thanks for the heads up on this one much easier than yelling at Sena.

She will not like it if you yell at her  :grin
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: TouriSTs on February 29, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
Bought a Sena 20S dual pack last week and tried it out with a mate riding around the Dandenongs yesterday. My first taste of intercom.  It was fantastic - opens up a whole new world when riding.

We are off to Tassie next Monday for a couple of weeks.  I've heard it rains occasionally in Tassie  :grin.  Can anyone tell me whether the unit is waterproof?

Thanks,

Marty
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: STroppy on February 29, 2016, 06:32:21 PM
I've been thru some pretty heavy rain and had no problems, I think manufacturer claims waterproof/water resistant . .
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: Williamson on February 29, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
Bought a Sena 20S dual pack last week and tried it out with a mate riding around the Dandenongs yesterday. My first taste of intercom.  It was fantastic - opens up a whole new world when riding.

We are off to Tassie next Monday for a couple of weeks.  I've heard it rains occasionally in Tassie  :grin.  Can anyone tell me whether the unit is waterproof?

Thanks,

Marty

My Sena 20S are more waterproof than my OzSTOC jacket. 

I've ridden through some very heavy torrential, wet-to-the-bone days.  The Sena 20S were / are no problem.  I wouldn't drop them in a bucket of water though.
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: tj189 on February 29, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
I agree with the others, been thru some pretty heavy rain and have had no issues  :thumb
Title: Re: Sena 20S - Feedback
Post by: RubenCan on July 11, 2016, 11:10:54 PM
I also have a pigeon pair and love them. Just to add something further to the previous notes.
I don't have a uhf so I haven't gone the sr10 road as yet.
However, I have an ipod, Garmin Zumo 390 and an iPhone all running simultaneously on Bluetooth and work absolutely great.
I used the PC app to program my local FM stations. Once I ride beyond the Radio range in Sydney, I give the phone button three very quick taps and it automatically searches for the strongest signals and you can then rotate through them one at a time, once you turn it off, it reverts back to your previously programed stations which is perfect for those day trips.

I agree that the sound is phenomenal and it has become an indispensable part of my kit.