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ST1300 police Gymkhana
« on: July 04, 2012, 10:22:57 AM »
I think I need some riding practice.

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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 10:36:34 AM »
Very impressive!  I'm amazed he could find his way through the route.
Typical Americans- everything done properly- e.g. the big digital time display.
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 05:00:25 PM »
Tops!  :thumbsup   Wonder how long the clutch lasts at that sort of riding?    :whistle
 
The only time mine gets to that angle is just before it hits the ground.   8)
 

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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 05:10:14 PM »
Wet clutches seem to go forever before they wear out.  Of course you can't burn them out to smoke the way you can on cars.
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 06:16:57 PM »
That sort of riding really impresses me.....wish i had half their skillz
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 06:59:17 PM »
A few years back I watched a program about the training required for an English ST1100 police bike. I can't seem to find anything related on Utube but I did find a US police riding sidesaddle on a BMW. Remembering that the police bike is somewhat heavier than our versions

https://youtu.be/r9sBRYAsKps

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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 08:16:29 PM »
No foot brake against clutch there!  Maybe he's aced the front brake/throttle grip.
I thought he was cheating putting a foot down on the left turns, but in the second instance he's obviously showing off with the fast walk routine.
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2012, 05:02:58 PM »
I wish I had their confidence to do those 360 degree turns, and I reckon they wouldn't have any chicken strips on their tyres.
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 08:47:18 PM »
Something to aspire too :thumbs

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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2012, 10:31:54 PM »
Very impressive...........I wonder how many times he went down in practice before being able to ride so confidently >:()
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 09:47:42 AM »
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Learning to do slow turns is not that hard really, just look to where you want to go and keep your body vertical to maintain centre of gravity.
I can do it sort off but DEFINITELY NOT THAT FAST. no intentions of entering a comp like that anyway

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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 12:08:42 PM »
The difference is that if they drop the bikes they don't have to fix or pay for them.. They just get another one out of the shed :blk13
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2012, 01:52:45 PM »
Hmmmm?? lots of revs, drag the clutch and the foot brake dragging in every turn.
 

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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2012, 03:50:36 PM »
Exactly..........it makes a big difference!!

The difference is that if they drop the bikes they don't have to fix or pay for them.. They just get another one out of the shed :blk13
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2012, 12:10:14 PM »
well if i break the law i wont go running into a maze of cones  :runyay
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2012, 06:36:05 PM »
Don't forget that what you're seeing is probably the second half of the day in the Gymkhana, or even the second day.  When they arrive they get a couple of hours practice before the events start to learn the course, and get used to riding in that manner again. 

We are required to complete two days re-qual every two years in Queensland, and although we don't do things this complex, once you get used to the counter balancing and not looking down at the ground, but look where you want the bike to go, you would be surprised at how easy it is to complete these tasks.  When we rock up the first hour is simply used to getting the bike over on those angles again before we start getting through the cones/poles.  The harder stuff is when they mix up high speed with this stuff.  A lot of these riders are also instructors that will do a week of slow speed stuff before the competition to get their skills up. 

You are also right about not having to pay for repairs if it goes wrong giving you a bit extra confidence.  I completed my original training on an ST1100, and I won't do a lot of the things on my own, that I put the work bike through.  There are a number of very simple ways to practice these manoeuvres for anybody interested. 

I will admit but that it feels bloody fantastic when know you can complete these courses when you do it. 
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2012, 08:18:15 PM »
There are a number of very simple ways to practice these manoeuvres for anybody interested. 


There's bound to be folk on here interested.  Can you post ideas or do we have to come to Townsville and take an oath of secrecy after the course?
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2012, 09:54:38 PM »
Biggles - I have already had some PM's from members, and it will cost more than your first born, you will have to let me ride your Motorcycle around Australia and you pick up the fuel bill.  (Insert evil laugh here)

What I will do is do up a map of some simple courses that people can run through with some sizes, and some basic instruction.  I DO NOT claim to be an expert in the subject, but I am more than willing to provide some diagrams and tips for anybody interested. 

Give me a couple of days to sort out a few things, and then I will post it up with some basic pictures and tips, with some websites if I can find them again. 
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2012, 01:16:49 PM »
Biggles - I have already had some PM's from members, and it will cost more than your first born, you will have to let me ride your Motorcycle around Australia and you pick up the fuel bill.  (Insert evil laugh here)

What I will do is do up a map of some simple courses that people can run through with some sizes, and some basic instruction.  I DO NOT claim to be an expert in the subject, but I am more than willing to provide some diagrams and tips for anybody interested. 

Give me a couple of days to sort out a few things, and then I will post it up with some basic pictures and tips, with some websites if I can find them again. 

Whew- you ride a hard bargain!   :grin

Anyway.  I've got the half tennis balls ready to go to mark out the course when you publish it.
I've done some slalom and figure eight stuff, but dimensions and other patterns would be great.
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2012, 01:50:04 PM »
Biggles, a RTL (ride to learn) day maybe?  Entertainment centre Boondall has a good car park, but might have to rent its space.
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 10:11:51 AM »
Biggles, a RTL (ride to learn) day maybe?  Entertainment centre Boondall has a good car park, but might have to rent its space.

Yeah, thought about that.  I did one at Griffith Uni car-park a few years ago.  Really just need someone with the right connections- there's hundreds of suitable bitumen patches around, it's a matter of finding one that bothers no-one, preferable for free.  The liability thing scares everyone these days.  The waiver form might run to pages.    :'(
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Re: ST1300 police Gymkhana
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2012, 10:57:49 AM »
Yes nothing is easy these days.
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