LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?

[Cerebral Knievel]

The mount on the 2nd pic (1100LED ) does look very solid.
It is probably half the size of the LP570 in the 1st pic.
Until the over the mirror mounts arrive i'm a bit gun shy about buying anything in case it doesn't fit 

[Sicman]

I installed these
http://www.visionxusa.com/LED-Optimus_Series/c1_247/index.html
On these
http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_3&products_id=339&zenid=ed2op6ln1h9tvh0do9c922t1r5
which look like this


Cost was $360 installed. Where I was comfortable riding at 80kms per hr at night before now I can sit at 100kms easily with the added vision they supply. Also if I think a tintop hasnt seen me one quick flash sees them stopping quickly now 
See this thread for details
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=3926.0
Cheers

[Cerebral Knievel]

I decided to go with the Diesel "Factory Patrol Bracket" option, but am not sure how it will go width wise with the Calsci screen fitted.
With the $AU predicted to fall through the floor for the foreseeable future i have decided to bite the proverbial bullet
 - farkling my brains out in the last few days before it drops any further 

[saaz]

I was browsing Jaycar's catalog and looks like they are selling LED flood and spot lights for $120 each.  I haven't seen them in person or in action.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=SL3918&keywords=sl3919&form=KEYWORD

[Biggles]

That's very impressive for the money!! And Jaycar is less than 1 km from here.
A bit of work needed to make a mount, but can do.  The basic mount looks to be a good start.
50,000 hours life should cover a fair bit of night riding.
Small enough to mount on forks so would shine into the corners.
Hmmm...

[ST2UP]

I spoke to Jaycar about those a couple of days ago here locally, tells me he will get 1 in for me to have a look......ticks lots of boxes

 

[saaz]

I just went down to have a look at them (was going anyway to get a few things)  The lights are nowhere near as compact as those smaller ones mounted under the mirrors. The pictures make them look far more dainty than they are - they are a seriously built unit.  So fork mounting is not an option.  They are more a full size 4" light, are heavier than my HID 4" as they have a robust full metal body with cooling fins. Heavier than an equivalent halogen driving light as for the output they produce they need a decent heat sink.  The mount looks to be very robust.

So I would put them in the category as not being auxiliary compact light stealth lights like the ones posted so far, but as main driving lights.  A very decent mounting bracket would be needed to cope with the weight (ie police bracket or a Dick Seng one)

[tj189]

They do look good, I think the amp draw is a smidgeon less than my HID spots and a smidgeon less than the Glenda led's.  The led spot version distance is not quiet there compared to the HID.
I don't think you would go wrong if you were purchasing a pair

[saaz]

The sad thing is that with 70w HID hi/lows and 55w HID euro spots I am still seriously thinking about how to mount some LED spots below the mirrors just to get that bit more for those times when you need a faster start up time and pure distance as opposed to spread .  How much is enough..well depends what you get used to!

They do look good, I think the amp draw is a smidgeon less than my HID spots and a smidgeon less than the Glenda led's.  The led spot version distance is not quiet there compared to the HID.
I don't think you would go wrong if you were purchasing a pair

[Sicman]

LED is mickey mouse compared to HID - Today I had a farm tractor pull out of a driveway into my path and he near rolled it once I flashed him with the LED's. The shocked looked on his face was priceless. It wouldnt have happened whilst waiting for HID's to warm up

[tj189]

The sad thing is that with 70w HID hi/lows and 55w HID euro spots I am still seriously thinking about how to mount some LED spots below the mirrors just to get that bit more for those times when you need a faster start up time and pure distance as opposed to spread .  How much is enough..well depends what you get used to!

They do look good, I think the amp draw is a smidgeon less than my HID spots and a smidgeon less than the Glenda led's.  The led spot version distance is not quiet there compared to the HID.
I don't think you would go wrong if you were purchasing a pair

Saaz, your 55w are drawing around 9amps?? and the HID 70w around 11.5amps?? not sure what else you run but if you put these led's from Jaycar on then you add around 6 amps??.  These led's may be what you need to keep the amps down? just for interest, I have the 45w HID's in the headlight, the HID spots are 35W and the Glenda LED's are 36w.
My reasoning for this setup is that the headlights do not required the warm up going from low to high, the LED's give the instant light out to say 350 meters, then the HID spots pick up over 2 or 3 seconds.  I believe that my eyes stay adjusted to the light as it goes from high to low and back????

[saaz]

TJ, that was my thinking as well.  I probably don't need LEDs that are quite that big physically, and there are times when it is not worth putting on the HID spots due to having to dip the lights too often.

[Biggles]

Does anyone know if you can have both the Police over-bracket and the Dick Seng under-bracket together on the mirror mount?
This is getting a bit theoretical, because Missus Biggles already thinks the Narvas over the mirrors ruin the bike's looks.

[Brock]

Dont think they will fit Biggles. Now a customised version of the over mirror where the tube goes under as well,,,,,,,

If I had a tube bender and a lathe, I could probably come up with something... and a shed, boy do I need a man cave...

[Brian]

Be nice to have a pair of those on the schWING....

[ST2UP]

Does anyone know if you can have both the Police over-bracket and the Dick Seng under-bracket together on the mirror mount?
This is getting a bit theoretical, because Missus Biggles already thinks the Narvas over the mirrors ruin the bike's looks.

I think Gatey is working on that very solution Bill......

[Gatey]

Hi guys

I have an option that's working so far with two lights mounted under the mirror as per a Dick Seng. The one up one down is in proto stage now...however a couple of things need a bit of attention first.

What needs to be remembered is all that gear is held on by 2x M6 bolts. onto that 2.2mm plate. Its that plate I;m working to beef up as part of a kit.

This bit of beef will also make the mount through the vent job able to take on a bigger light.

The under screen bracket works very well.(( only suitable for pre electric screen model 13's)). This unit gets the light up above the stock fitting and within the width of a stock screen.
Cross bar hold's a pair of light's up to 7" if need be.OR one of those light bars.

No pics for obvious reasons...

[Biggles]

What needs to be remembered is all that gear is held on by 2x M6 bolts. onto that 2.2mm plate. Its that plate I;m working to beef up as part of a kit.

I presume there is a nut welded behind the plate, and we're not just depending on two threads in the plate itself.
Are you worried the weight would be too much for 2.5 mm plate- that it would flex or fail at a weld?

[Gatey]

Yep Biggles that plate with the welded nuts. Some of these bigger LEDs have some weight to them, The end plate is prone to flex and without too much effort it bends.

Even a simple drop in the shed with one of these light kits and Seng type mounts will wreck this little stock plate. It was after all only ever expected to hold a mirror.

I'm endeavouring to make a triangulation back onto the tube section as well as use the existing plate.

If an over and under brackets going to be of use with a few different model/brands of light then I have to take weight into account.

[ST2UP]

Good work Chris, can't wait to see the finished product......glad I didn't throw away my old Rallye 2000's    they might live to shine again......well maybe not 

[saaz]

I have some old marschal driving lights that are too big to fit on the bike (used to be mounted to the bulbar on a ute I had). Only 55w bulbs but the beam pattern is fantastic - spread and penetration. Its something you have to pay decent money for these days.

Good work Chris, can't wait to see the finished product......glad I didn't throw away my old Rallye 2000's    they might live to shine again......well maybe not 

[tj189]

Does anyone know if you can have both the Police over-bracket and the Dick Seng under-bracket together on the mirror mount?
This is getting a bit theoretical, because Missus Biggles already thinks the Narvas over the mirrors ruin the bike's looks.

Yes they do, with a slight modification to the police brackets.  Not a big project just the removal of a small part of the bracket and a longer bolt.  I have had the ST1100 set up that way and added the same setup to the ST1300.  This setup has done the odd few Km's without issue.

[Biggles]

Yes they do, with a slight modification to the police brackets.  Not a big project just the removal of a small part of the bracket and a longer bolt.  I have had the ST1100 set up that way and added the same setup to the ST1300.  This setup has done the odd few Km's without issue.

You're not worried about the issue Gatey raises regarding the strength of the stock mounting plate?

[Gavo]

I left poly brackets as is and modified the under wing bracket

[tj189]

Yes they do, with a slight modification to the police brackets.  Not a big project just the removal of a small part of the bracket and a longer bolt.  I have had the ST1100 set up that way and added the same setup to the ST1300.  This setup has done the odd few Km's without issue.

You're not worried about the issue Gatey raises regarding the strength of the stock mounting plate?

No, not at all, it is still a very sturdy and solid bracket even with the mod, well it has not fallen of as ye and i have also mounted something else on the bracket near the light