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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2013, 09:50:05 PM »
Besides, its 11" (280mm) wide, it just wont look good
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2013, 06:15:22 PM »
And I would check on the weight, as LED light bars can be heavy.  The LED lights from Jaycar were heavier than the 4" HIDs by quite a margin.  The cooling needed from the meatl casing seems to be the weight source.

Besides, its 11" (280mm) wide, it just wont look good
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2013, 11:28:14 PM »
Thanks for the info guys :-++

I was just looking at using 1 light bar as an alternative to running multiple lights hanging around the mirrors
I thought that this would create less wind drag, use less power (being LED) and if hidden away wouldn’t look too bad...

Something like this:



Light bar:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/80W-8000LM-CREE-LED-Spot-Flood-Combo-Work-Light-Bar-CREE-Offroad-Lamp-Car-ATV-SUV/1118496235.html

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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2013, 05:38:00 AM »
these ones are a bit different to the other one,  6 amp draw this time.  if you go down this line I would be interested in seeing the result
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #79 on: August 07, 2013, 08:11:43 AM »
these ones are a bit different to the other one,  6 amp draw this time.  if you go down this line I would be interested in seeing the result
 
I agree TJ.  I blew one of the HID's on the Biloela trip, and the Compac 80's are too strong to be fog lights, so this is something I am interested in also, with a secondary smaller set for fog lights (read tabledrain lights)
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #80 on: September 27, 2013, 08:06:38 AM »
Jaycar have these at $400 for the pair.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=SL3920&w=SL3920+SL3922&form=KEYWORD

Interestingly, in their speil, they specify "For Off-road use only"!  Haven't seen that before.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #81 on: September 27, 2013, 08:58:02 PM »
If you go here, http://www.lightforce.net.au/images/pages/4WD%20161%20LR2.pdf lightforce tested 30 or so HID, Halogen and LED lights for 4x4, from a range of manufacturers, HID are good for 600-900mt, Halogen 300-500mt and LED around 100mt with great spread.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2013, 07:50:24 AM »
" and LED around 100mt with great spread".

Wrong.


Sorry Yoryie but my own long term use and testing are at odds with your line quoted.
Even my LED hunting torch, mounted over the scope has 400ntrs usable light and will illuminate eyes, vehicles and shedding even fence end assembly's at 800mtr. That's the length of my driveway.

LED has made huge leaps in design, power use, and output over the last 5 to 6 years. Price has been coming down and build features going up. Manufacturer's that missed the boat ( like Lightforce) are all just a bit touchy and behind the other players still.

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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2013, 01:02:57 PM »
" and LED around 100mt with great spread".

Wrong.


Sorry Yoryie but my own long term use and testing are at odds with your line quoted.
Even my LED hunting torch, mounted over the scope has 400ntrs usable light and will illuminate eyes, vehicles and shedding even fence end assembly's at 800mtr. That's the length of my driveway.

LED has made huge leaps in design, power use, and output over the last 5 to 6 years. Price has been coming down and build features going up. Manufacturer's that missed the boat ( like Lightforce) are all just a bit touchy and behind the other players still.
Hey Gatey, I was only quoting what is said by Lightforce, there are so many different lights out there it is difficult for the average person to make a choice, it is only by reading tests like this which give some idea.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #84 on: September 28, 2013, 03:12:59 PM »
Turtle bought some of those Jaycar LED lights..wonder how they went?
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #85 on: September 28, 2013, 06:57:19 PM »
The Jaykar light turtle has mentioned are now fitted east and west on a high speed tractor used for root cutting in the cotton. Its helped keep some of these guys from mulching their own utes and other plant at speed. Just another example of great value, easy fit up.

Yorkie yes I get your only quoting what that report said.... a comment about your own experience with any of those products for or against helps back up their findings and those of your own...
OR
your just helping them reinforce their marketing line/interpretation needed to sell whatever product they need too.
The info per my quote is still wrong and misleading.


If your interested...May I send you some LED' Lights that will prove the case in favour of LED? short term testers of course...I'm not a bottomless pit. Or you could come to Overland Corner and ride my clunkerST at night and see what you think of the cheaper end of LED's
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2013, 09:17:56 PM »
Gatey I would like to know what LED's you are using, I looked at some online sometime back, looked good however at around $1k each, I am a pensioner so they were not going to happen. Size is also an issue there is not much around smaller than 100mm.
I am currently using a pair of 50mm Hella HID's which I have had for about 20 years, no longer in production, have a penetrating beam but nothing to the side, this is why I am looking at options.
If somebody on this forum can come up with the perfect light at a reasonable cost I am sure everyone would get them.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #87 on: September 28, 2013, 09:24:06 PM »
Your HID's didn't see this then


If your interested...May I send you some LED' Lights that will prove the case in favour of LED? short term testers of course...I'm not a bottomless pit. Or you could come to Overland Corner and ride my clunkerST at night and see what you think of the cheaper end of LED's
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2013, 09:27:28 PM »
And I'm self employed so paying $1K ea for any light is just stupid stupid stupid....but nothing ever seems beyond acquisition. Stupid is a standard item in Aus these days...like dick-heads in cars or GreyHound buses.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #89 on: September 29, 2013, 01:31:30 AM »
I am looking at lights now both HIDs and LEDs. Gatey what brand are you using and cost as I am a cheap bastard so value for money rules. Bringing my comments earlier to the for we need to have a challenge and do our own comparo.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2013, 09:19:25 AM »
Current Jaycar  cat sales dates 9 Oct to 31 Oct has on the front page...

5"LED spot lights $129ea or 2 for $218 saving $40 bucks from last months price.
Flood light part number SL-3918
Sopt part number SL-3919

I know some guys in here have had them fitted for some time.
Yorkie that price is good buying and according to their web site come with harness ( though I have noted some agents don't include those on some items. I think these would suite your budget...Its suits mine for light on the wife's wagon.

6.5" solid LED lights feature on page three of that same catndog. That price shown is what the 5"cost a short time back.

Wombat the light I have been playing with is a VisionX Light Cannon.  $230 ea and are probably the best unit build and light wise Ive played with in a short while. Very tough and better value than the Narva units I have on the ST.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2013, 05:44:04 PM »
The VisionX give 1 lux at 1000 feet which is 307mt, I think that is a pretty good light for our purposes, as for the Jaycar the quoted distance is 378mt however 1 lux is at 189mt, over 1/3rd less distance and approx. 1/3rd the cost less.

Once again it comes down to getting what you pay for, I think I would pay the extra for the VisionX.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2013, 06:29:09 PM »
Since that "demon bird" ate one of my HID driving lights, I have had to look at a replacement.  I was soooo close to picking up the visionx cannons, a single 25w led, how good is that! giving 300 and a bit meters of good light! using only 4.1 amps as a pair, that is pretty good.

However, for me, the led in a spot beam has just not quiet reached the mark where i can stop using the HID's.  so I have picked up a replacement pair of 35w HID's in the spot beam, this will push the light out that extra bit of distance where my current LED's from Clearwater finish.
 
I am treating the Hid's as temporary as I am hoping, with the production of this 25w led, things will lead on to at least a 35w LED in the very near future  :thumbs

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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2013, 09:26:23 PM »
I use the VisionX 10 watt led spot 20 spread which give spot and width - 693 feet of useable light plus great circle of light which lights up the road edges. Where I was comfortable riding at 80kms now I can ride easily at 100kms at night  :clap :grin
I find cars at 10kms away are dropping their lights early leading me to dropping mine earlier.
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Re: LED Flood Lights, Suggestions?
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2013, 09:58:33 PM »
Dropping your lights earlier can be dangerous as you create a poor visibility area between you and the oncoming traffic, this needs to be kept to a minimum.
I had a set of Hella Predator's on a patrol, I had to dip when oncoming traffic was 3 or 4k away, hit a few roos in that distance, eventually put a set of halogens for the in between.
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