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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: StinkyPete on January 24, 2019, 06:22:32 AM
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Stay cool people as it's a day to stay home and not go riding. 45 degres forecast for Adelaide, with a chance that we will crack the highest max ever recorded which was 46.1 in 1939. :H
Port Augusta is foracast 49, so "Mikep", stay home and watch the cricket with the AC cranking.
The police are very active in the Adelaide Hills, watching for firebugs, and running active surveillance on the known firebugs. :law
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I took a week of A/L as the family were due to arrive back in Adelaide yesterday but my son falling ill meant it got postponed until next week. I'm home alone and the A/C is cranked up. My Australia Day long weekend is now in its sixth day.
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We have had heat here too....well heat for Guyra anyway !! Anything over 28 degrees and the oldies are dropping in the main street here ;-*
But it also bought us afternoon storms to with 4'' of liquid gold in the last week :runyay
:beer
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Only 42C forecast here today after a cool 41 yesterday.
Had one day last week with 43 which still didn't break the 43.5 highest on record from Jan 2009.
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Luckily for SA the wind is blowing. I see they're generating 887 MW from wind and solar at the moment, but still importing 210MW from Victoria (which is 526 short themselves, but is passing on some of the 687MW it's getting from NSW and TAS). Pray the wind doesn't drop!!
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Hey st2up anything over 10 degrees is a heat wave in guyra :runyay
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It was 33 at 6:15 when I left for work. It will be a rather warm ride home
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Luckily for SA the wind is blowing. I see they're generating 887 MW from wind and solar at the moment, but still importing 210MW from Victoria (which is 526 short themselves, but is passing on some of the 687MW it's getting from NSW and TAS). Pray the wind doesn't drop!!
We have some quite expensive gas turbine generators for reserve backup power.
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We have some quite expensive gas turbine generators for reserve backup power.
They must have been running this morning when SA was paying $320/MW and QLD was paying $88.99.
Our dirty coal-fired generators and lovely domestic roof-top solar panels are currently pushing 754MW south to fill the gaps.
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We've cracked the all time hottest day in Adelaide of 46.1, set in 1939, as it's now 46.5. It's quite pleasant inside my home, but bloody hot when I need to go outside. :H
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I've yet to step outside.
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We've cracked the all time hottest day in Adelaide of 46.1, set in 1939, as it's now 46.5. It's quite pleasant inside my home, but bloody hot when I need to go outside. :H
Don't run the a/c longer than you have to. The current power is costing $472.10/MW in SA, probably due to the gas generators going flat tack. Wind and solar are only at half strength.
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Luckily for SA the wind is blowing. I see they're generating 887 MW from wind and solar at the moment, but still importing 210MW from Victoria (which is 526 short themselves, but is passing on some of the 687MW it's getting from NSW and TAS). Pray the wind doesn't drop!!
We have our own little Solar set up beside the town going into the grid.
The 100 plus wind turbines 25 km down the road are all working when we past about an hour ago. We also noticed a new Solar set up going in at Yongala which is 10km away
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We have 36C in the lounge room which is the hottest we've had in the eight years we've been here so we might have broken our 2009 43.5 record.
Clouds have been building up for the last few hours and looks like our forecasted electrical storm is well under development.
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I don't know if it's a record, but the spot price for SA power has been $14,500/MW since around midday. It's $14162.80 in Victoria tonight. For comparison, QLD and NSW are about $100 and TAS an extraordinarily low $13.28/MW.
Those electrical storms are a god-send when they have cooling rain in them.
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Records broken today at:
Adelaide
Adelaide Airport
Clare
Edinburgh
Hindmarsh Island
Kuitpo
Marree
Minlaton
Minnipa
Noarlunga
Parafield
Port Lincoln
Port Pirie
Roseworthy
Snowtown
Stenhouse Bay
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well bugga me after a week of FARKKK en HOT :H that's almost killed my dog Kimba :'( . we had a cool day today 35c and I've been out and bought a new battery for STranger , the heat expanded the gel and split the old one. I have my old Aunger Pro trailer hitched behind him sitting ready to ride out the gates at 5am tomorrow riding down to Tarcutta for breakfast and meet a guy from Warnambool who's buying the trailer. Its going to be hot and I should roll over 200,000k's and I hope to be focused to get a photo. I haven't ridden STranger for over a year now and tonight went to the servo 300mtrs and back.. Facebook memories had a pic of me leaving the Gold Coast on 18/12/1999 on my first trip with this trailer. that ride alone was 10,000+ k's.. The end of an era... Hopefully I'll be home by 12.30 > 1pm before I have been cooked.
The heat has had an impact on me and I' wont be in my OzSTOC first time since I got it.. I got a mesh jacket to make riding a little more bearable.
The heat should help the rubber stick, Keep hydrated guys.. I got water and ice waiting and hydralyte powder ready. :beer
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Have a safe ride Johnny :like, hot day in Vic :H
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Today in Victoria, "Fair Dinkum power" is giving up the ghost.
"Energy minister Lily D’Ambrosio told 3AW radio on Friday morning that she “can’t rule out brown-outs” with three generators across the Yallourn and Loy Yang A power stations out of action, meaning the state is down more than 1000MW of power generation capacity."
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We have 36C in the lounge room which is the hottest we've had in the eight years we've been here so we might have broken our 2009 43.5 record.
Only 43 yesterday at the weather station 10kms away so could have been a little warmer here. Yongala is known to be the coldest place in SA; even in summer it seems.
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.... and with a push for us to go to electric cars, to be clean and green, where do they think the electricity to charge them is going to come from, with insufficient generation capacity for current needs. We need to have a non-emotional debate about going to a network of nuclear power stations. After all, we have the uranium, and better opportunity to store the used fuel than many other countries.
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.... and with a push for us to go to electric cars, to be clean and green, where do they think the electricity to charge them is going to come from, with insufficient generation capacity for current needs. We need to have a non-emotional debate about going to a network of nuclear power stations. After all, we have the uranium, and better opportunity to store the used fuel than many other countries.
Looking at just Tesla some of their US charging stations use solar panels and the plan is to convert them all.
Would make sense if they did that out here as well -
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.... and with a push for us to go to electric cars, to be clean and green, where do they think the electricity to charge them is going to come from, with insufficient generation capacity for current needs. We need to have a non-emotional debate about going to a network of nuclear power stations. After all, we have the uranium, and better opportunity to store the used fuel than many other countries.
Just reading down this thread and drafting the same post in my mind Pete. The sooner the better.
Also feel how hypocritical can we get exporting uranium but not using it and not taking nuclear waste back for long term storage.
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We have had heat here too....well heat for Guyra anyway !! Anything over 28 degrees and the oldies are dropping in the main street here ;-*
But it also bought us afternoon storms to with 4'' of liquid gold in the last week :runyay
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Chris, great news about the rain.
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Looking at just Tesla some of their US charging stations use solar panels and the plan is to convert them all.
Would make sense if they did that out here as well -
Has anyone done the maths on how much panel area will be needed (on a clear sunny day) to charge one car for say 100 km of travel?
It's not a small amount of energy unless everyone is going to ride in one of those two person pods with no cargo space and no crumple zone and no aircon.
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.... and with a push for us to go to electric cars, to be clean and green, where do they think the electricity to charge them is going to come from, with insufficient generation capacity for current needs. We need to have a non-emotional debate about going to a network of nuclear power stations. After all, we have the uranium, and better opportunity to store the used fuel than many other countries.
Even the Washington Post isn't convinced wind and solar will be the solution to the energy problem. It's a Sept 2016 article but nothing has changed its projections:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-theory/wp/2016/09/19/when-it-comes-to-climate-change-lets-get-our-priorities-straight/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1a7b9558e299 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-theory/wp/2016/09/19/when-it-comes-to-climate-change-lets-get-our-priorities-straight/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1a7b9558e299)
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Who would build these Nuclear Power Plants? The State? Or Private Enterprise?
Given the reluctance of Private Enterprise to build New fossil fuel power plants, it seems to be left to the State to finance Nuclear Power Plants.
Wikipedia has this to say on the economics of Nuclear Power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_plants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_plants)
More reading.
https://www.google.com.au/search?lr=&hl=en&as_qdr=all&ei=adZKXNq8ONGP9QPawrKgDg&q=%22nuclear+power+station%22+economics&oq=%22nuclear+power+station%22+economics&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30l2.350005.353700..354932...0.0..0.268.2058.0j3j7......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0j0i67j0i22i10i30.VpB74bfO3vk (https://www.google.com.au/search?lr=&hl=en&as_qdr=all&ei=adZKXNq8ONGP9QPawrKgDg&q=%22nuclear+power+station%22+economics&oq=%22nuclear+power+station%22+economics&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30l2.350005.353700..354932...0.0..0.268.2058.0j3j7......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0j0i67j0i22i10i30.VpB74bfO3vk)
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Looking at just Tesla some of their US charging stations use solar panels and the plan is to convert them all.
Would make sense if they did that out here as well -
Has anyone done the maths on how much panel area will be needed (on a clear sunny day) to charge one car for say 100 km of travel?
It's not a small amount of energy unless everyone is going to ride in one of those two person pods with no cargo space and no crumple zone and no aircon.
A former colleague is working on the QLD Electric Super Highway protect and they are going to be building 50 kWh and 150 kWh solar powered charging stations at least every 300 km between the Gold Coast and Port Douglas. So yep, Engineers have done the maths.
Most modern electric cars are capable of over 600 km between charges and the new ones can be 80% charged in under half an hour.
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A nuclear plant would take a minimum of 15 years to build, and the cost required of the generated electricity, in order to Madge a return on the investment would be 15 times the cost of renewables.
If it was cost effective, the likes of AGL and Engie would be pushing it hard.
The only ones seriously pushing nuclear, are those who've bought shares in Ranger mine.
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Has anyone done the maths on how much panel area will be needed (on a clear sunny day) to charge one car for say 100 km of travel?
It's not a small amount of energy unless everyone is going to ride in one of those two person pods with no cargo space and no crumple zone and no aircon.
This guy has done some homework on electric vehicles, in this video and some others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRTfVTETD8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRTfVTETD8I)
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A work colleague has a Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in Hybrid and lives over at Manly and drives to Brisbane Airport and back on a charge.
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Has anyone done the maths on how much panel area will be needed (on a clear sunny day) to charge one car for say 100 km of travel?
It's not a small amount of energy unless everyone is going to ride in one of those two person pods with no cargo space and no crumple zone and no aircon.
I can't find much about that but Wikipedia does sort of give an idea about charge times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Supercharger#Tesla_Megacharger
Tesla supercharging stations charge with up to 135 kW of power distributed between two cars with a maximum of 120 kW per car. They take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100% on the original 85 kWh Model S. The charging stations provide high-power direct-current (DC) charging power directly to the battery, bypassing the internal charging power supply. The next version of Supercharging is expected to charge with more than 350 kW.
As for the Nuclear Power thing - all for it and being an essential service and as with the coal and gas fired power station that were built it should a state thing
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A former colleague is working on the QLD Electric Super Highway protect and they are going to be building 50 kWh and 150 kWh solar powered charging stations at least every 300 km between the Gold Coast and Port Douglas. So yep, Engineers have done the maths.
Most modern electric cars are capable of over 600 km between charges and the new ones can be 80% charged in under half an hour.
At the moment with a Tesla you can drive from the Sunshine Coast QLD to Adelaide via Sydney and Melbourne using the Super Charger network. https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/findus#/bounds/-0.6911344,166.7429167,-51.6633232,100.0911072,d?search=supercharger,destination%20charger,&name=Australia (https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/findus#/bounds/-0.6911344,166.7429167,-51.6633232,100.0911072,d?search=supercharger,destination%20charger,&name=Australia)
If you add in destination chargers (motels etc.) then there's a few more route options https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/findus#/bounds/-0.6911344,166.7429167,-51.6633232,100.0911072,d?search=destination%20charger,&name=Australia (https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/findus#/bounds/-0.6911344,166.7429167,-51.6633232,100.0911072,d?search=destination%20charger,&name=Australia)
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Great video, although the Clive Palmer ad in the middle was very disconcerting.
As for the conventional 12V battery, all the lights, fans, computers and dash run on 12 V. The batteries to run the Wheel motors, are usually around 300 V DC. The standard 12 V battery acts as a filter for the inverter which keeps it topped up from the 300 V batteries.
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Easier to carry a jerry can.
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Easier to carry a jerry can.
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Easier to drive a petrol car.
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What does the genny run on, Fresh Air? Think not, maybe fossil fuels. :eek What's the point of it all? 2c worth
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It's like we haven't been using deisel powered electric vehicles for some time,
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for energy efficiency reasons.
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I understand its costly to build a large nuclear power station and takes a long time. But how about modular type NPSs? By that I mean they can bung a NPS in a sub or aircraft carrier, surely something could be developed to power small cities around a country like Aus where there is plentiful water around the coastline?
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I understand its costly to build a large nuclear power station and takes a long time. But how about modular type NPSs? By that I mean they can bung a NPS in a sub or aircraft carrier, surely something could be developed to power small cities around a country like Aus where there is plentiful water around the coastline?
Even then, the cost per kWh is still far greater than solar, wind, wave and geothermal.
They only do it in military submarines for tactical reasons, where cost is never a consideration.
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Same same.
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I actually find this rather discriminatory amongst the masses. But most is. 4c now. Be up to a dollar soon. :eek