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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Lights and Lighting => Topic started by: TheMechwarrior on November 09, 2012, 10:56:16 PM

Title: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 09, 2012, 10:56:16 PM

Any other suggestions/Ideas?
 :wht11

Cheers,

Mech.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Sabie on November 09, 2012, 11:34:12 PM
Brock, Biggles and Deisel are your go to guys for electronics and lights...

As well as quite a few others...

Good luck I hope all goes well with the Farkling, from a daylight rider.....
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: alans1100 on November 10, 2012, 12:19:03 AM
Quote from: TheMechwarrior on November 09, 2012, 10:56:16 PM
    Chaps,

    I'm on a lighting/safety mission atm for my ST1100.

    • DONE - I've ordered the H4 adapter rings I saw mentioned in the forums.
    • DONE - Going to order these Narva H4 +120 bulbs unless someone advises me otherwise: [url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NARVA-PERFORMANCE-Globe-SET-H4-12-V60-55-W-Plus-120-Part-EC48362BL2-/261083987242?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc9d17d2a[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NARVA-PERFORMANCE-Globe-SET-H4-12-V60-55-W-Plus-120-Part-EC48362BL2-/261083987242?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc9d17d2a[/url])
    • Next I want to add some fog lamps, this is what I was considering:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Narva-72230-Ultra-Compact-Yellow-Fog-Lamp-Kit-12v-55w-Spread-Beam-150x85mm-/320936009637?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab946dfa5 ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Narva-72230-Ultra-Compact-Yellow-Fog-Lamp-Kit-12v-55w-Spread-Beam-150x85mm-/320936009637?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab946dfa5[/url])
    • Does anyone riding a PY either have the brackets for the lights or know what thread the nuts take? Might get a couple of brackets made at the local stainless engineering company up the road.
    • DONE - I will order the 3M reflective kit I saw posted in these forums as well
    • This is the lithium battery I figured I'd need to go for if I were to add extra driving lights, fog lights etc: [url]http://stores.ebay.com/riders-resource-store/BATTERIES-/_i.html?_nkw=16-Cell&submit=Search&_fsub=5453292018&_sid=636704578[/url] ([url]http://stores.ebay.com/riders-resource-store/BATTERIES-/_i.html?_nkw=16-Cell&submit=Search&_fsub=5453292018&_sid=636704578[/url])

Any other suggestions/Ideas?
 :wht11

Cheers,

Mech.


Part numbers for what you need are here I think they are the same world wide but just in case select Australia and the right part numbers will come up. Items 15, 16, 23 and 24 are the light mountings and bolts

http://www.st-1100.com/st1100-parts-fiche-windscreen-st1100py.html (http://www.st-1100.com/st1100-parts-fiche-windscreen-st1100py.html)

I priced them at Blue City Motorcycles and they are on par with David Silver Spares.


http://www.bluecitymotorcycles.com.au/home (http://www.bluecitymotorcycles.com.au/home)

Light Brackets about $123 each,  88800-MZ9-900 and 88900-MZ9-900
Bolts $3.30 for two size 6 x 45  95801-060-4508
         $6.32 for two size 6 x 65  95801-060-6508

Have a look at lithium batteries here If the link doesn't work then it's LTX14-BS

http://www.ssbpowersport.com.au/Products/ProductList/tabid/241/mode/details/pid/430/Default.aspx (http://www.ssbpowersport.com.au/Products/ProductList/tabid/241/mode/details/pid/430/Default.aspx)

There's more batteries here including lithium as well.

http://www.atbatt.com/motorcycle-batteries/b/honda/m/st1100-1100cc-91-02.asp (http://www.atbatt.com/motorcycle-batteries/b/honda/m/st1100-1100cc-91-02.asp)

That should give you something to think about, not only that the items are what I'm looking at doing as well.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Brock on November 10, 2012, 08:21:55 AM
There is no real need to change the battery just because you are putting on extra lighting, the whole system is carried by the alternator.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 10, 2012, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: Brock on November 10, 2012, 08:21:55 AM
There is no real need to change the battery just because you are putting on extra lighting, the whole system is carried by the alternator.

Great to know, thanks Brock :beer
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: saaz on November 10, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
The alternator puts out decent power even at idle.  On mine with twin 70W HID hi/los on and the 2 x 55W HID spots on at normal idle voltage sits on at least 14V.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Brock on November 10, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
If your battery goes flat when you are riding with the lights on, then there most likely is a fault in your alternator system. This is easy to check, but a bit harder to fix if there is a problem.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 12, 2012, 09:37:14 PM
7. Done - Ordered the tyre repair kit and pump Brock mentioned here in this thread:
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2502.msg27098#msg27098 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2502.msg27098#msg27098)

8. Done - Ordered the extra loud horn mentioned here in this thread:
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2680.msg27142#msg27142 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2680.msg27142#msg27142)


Thanks everyone for your contributiosn to date  :beer
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Diesel on November 13, 2012, 03:45:05 PM
Hi Mech - don't forget to order (with the fog lamps).. relay, switch, fuse, wire and crimp connectors/solder - unless the PY is set up for this.      :thumbsup

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 18, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
Thanks Diesel,

PY comes with enough extras to handle this I think.

9. Done. Ordered the headlight protective screen.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-ST1100-PAN-EOROPEAN-1989-2000-HEADLIGHT-PROTECTOR-/261127182342?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccc649806 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-ST1100-PAN-EOROPEAN-1989-2000-HEADLIGHT-PROTECTOR-/261127182342?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccc649806)

10. Done. Ordered the Tyredog wireless tyre pressure monitoring system:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tyredog-TPMS-Wireless-Tire-Pressure-Monitor-System-Motorcycle-Waterproof-TD4100-/160889779278?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2575c7344e (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tyredog-TPMS-Wireless-Tire-Pressure-Monitor-System-Motorcycle-Waterproof-TD4100-/160889779278?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2575c7344e)

11. Done. Ordered the heated grips:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Heated-Hand-Grips-Warmer-Kit-Suzuki-Yamaha-Honda-Kawasaki-/261084011110?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc9d1da66 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Heated-Hand-Grips-Warmer-Kit-Suzuki-Yamaha-Honda-Kawasaki-/261084011110?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc9d1da66)

Fog lamps and PY mounting brackets still to do along with a couple other farkles for holding my phone etc.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Diesel on November 18, 2012, 08:35:30 PM
Lol - someone's living the dream eh?

Well done Mech - keep us informed of the farkling process with pics when you get to it too.      :thumb

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 26, 2012, 10:26:08 PM
Installed a couple of items over the weekend, here's the first:

Thanks to Peter's Safety Solutions: http://www.safetysolutions.com.au/motorcycle-safety-gear/3m-reflective-tape (http://www.safetysolutions.com.au/motorcycle-safety-gear/3m-reflective-tape)
I've installed the black reflective panier set.

Step 1.
Cleaned the area with isopropyl alcohol wipes
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6206/img0504cs.jpg)

Step 2.
Check for fit and alignment before removing the backing and applying
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9261/img0505by.jpg)

Step 3.
Apply the adhesive reflectives and take happy snap
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6671/img0506day.jpg)

Step 4.
Take a night shot for contrast to truly appreciate the black beauties, mine were taken on a full moon so not as much flash or contrast as I would like.
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6245/img0508night.jpg)

Very happy with the final result.

Thanks Peter :thumbsup
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 26, 2012, 10:35:58 PM
Second job for the weekend was to install the TPMS.

Step 1.
Firstly remove your tyre filler cap and replace with one of the new wireless temperature and pressure transmitters.
You'll notice they are labelled "1" and "2", I placed 1 on the front and 2 on the rear, as that's how they will appear on your screen (in my mind).
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3158/img0499wd.jpg)

Step 2.
Firstly I had to remove the clutch handle as I needed to get in to fit the the TPMS:
Here you can see me tightening up the clutch handle after I've slipped in the TPMS.
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1822/img0500qy.jpg)

Step 3.
The final product, I've set the upper and lower alarm limits for temperature and pressure.
As you can see my current tyre pressure is sitting a little low...so first chance I get I'll be bumping her up to 42 front and rear for a while and see how she likes it.
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7808/img0502rx.jpg)

Cheers,

Mech.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Diesel on November 27, 2012, 07:43:56 AM
Great post Mech - thanks for sharing.... 


Quote from: TheMechwarrior on November 26, 2012, 10:35:58 PM
...so first chance I get I'll be bumping her up to 42 front and rear for a while and see how she likes it.



That's the spirit. - It may end up reading 46/48  or 38/40 - but you sound like you're right on the money to find the 'sweet spot'

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 27, 2012, 09:34:47 AM
Thanks Diesel.

Out of interest to some I recorded the starting temps and pressures before my 74km trip work and again at the end:

Both pressure and temperatures went up by 4 over the trip, nothing alarming. Tyres started at 15oC this morning.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: saaz on November 27, 2012, 09:41:05 AM
Does that TPMS compensate for temperature rises?  I though that some did, and so approximate starting tyre pressures?  I had forgotten about TPMS systems so now have to say my farkle list is not complete...

Update - I think I have answered my own questions http://www.tyredog.com.au/store/2-wheel-wtpms/td-4100ax-motorcycle.html (http://www.tyredog.com.au/store/2-wheel-wtpms/td-4100ax-motorcycle.html) this system tells you pressure and temperature. Other ones I considered had an auto pressure compensate feature that allows for pressures rising when tyres get hot, and tells you the compensated figure.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: TheMechwarrior on November 27, 2012, 10:05:14 AM
Starting tyre pressure was 39.0 front and 40.5 rear.
Will fix the tyre pressure as soon as I knock off work.
Title: Re: Lighting and Safety
Post by: Brock on November 27, 2012, 12:11:31 PM
Here is a quick n dirty spreadsheet, that will give you an idea of the relationship between temp and pressure.

The upshot is check your pressure before starting out (cold). If you reduce the pressure when hot, you will wind up with a badly under pressure when it cools off again.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rf6eb77gf3je4b9/Tyre%20Pressure%20for%20temp.xls (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rf6eb77gf3je4b9/Tyre%20Pressure%20for%20temp.xls)