Author Topic: It's official! Here is your choice of new Honda Sports Tourers... (Read 51597 times)

Biggles · « **Reply #50 on:** October 23, 2013, 10:30:05 AM »

Quote from: Couch on October 23, 2013, 09:14:48 AM

Biggles, you are a wealth of knowledge!! What a shame you don't ride a white bike!!

I used to a few years ago, but needed a faster one.

Down Under · « **Reply #51 on:** October 23, 2013, 11:22:05 AM »

I think I've identified a trend in Honda's current motorcycle design philosophy. If ever a true ST replacement eventuates, I'll guarantee that it will be at least 40% uglier than the current model.

Cheers,

Tony

Couch · « **Reply #52 on:** October 23, 2013, 11:47:43 AM »

Turncoat!

obviously not to be trusted!!

Quote from: Biggles on October 23, 2013, 10:30:05 AM

Quote from: Couch on October 23, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Biggles, you are a wealth of knowledge!! What a shame you don't ride a white bike!!

I used to a few years ago, but needed a faster one.

Totgas · « **Reply #53 on:** October 24, 2013, 01:04:17 AM »

Quote from: Biggles on October 22, 2013, 03:19:48 PM

The 700 appears to have a fixed windscreen, as does the 1300. Another boo-boo!

It actually looks like the screen disappears into the nose cone.

and it does meet Police Motorbike Standards.

Nigel · « **Reply #54 on:** October 24, 2013, 06:53:38 AM »

When I go into the market for a new bike (not that I am for a while) I think it looks good .
Like the exposed pipes and the low slung overall look. Hope they add an electric screen though. Perhaps have a look when they hit the showroom! Yeah don't think I,d look too outta place on it.

Streak · « **Reply #55 on:** October 24, 2013, 07:26:02 AM »

Quote from: Nigel-1702 on October 24, 2013, 06:53:38 AM

When I go into the market for a new bike (not that I am for a while) I think it looks good .
Like the exposed pipes and the low slung overall look. Hope they add an electric screen though. Perhaps have a look when they hit the showroom!

That's well said mate, all we can do is have a look

saaz · « **Reply #56 on:** October 24, 2013, 04:00:48 PM »

Hopefully what Honda is doing is releasing what they expect to be a bigger selling model, then release the other variations. I had a look the other day at the Goldwing and F6B side by side, and all the main parts are the same. So hopefully the CTX1300 will also have an ST cousin based on the same platform at some stage. But will it have a decent tank size, decent fuel range etc etc? The basic ST13 based platform is a great place to start!

Biggles · « **Reply #57 on:** October 24, 2013, 04:48:47 PM »

They probably think that after 10 years the ST1300 needs a facelift. Maybe.
But I'd settle for a bit of electrickery- TC, CC a power outlet and a better seat would be enough for me.
Oh, and get the heat off the legs, please.
If you still want more, make the front suspension adjustable.

Diesel · « **Reply #58 on:** November 06, 2013, 10:23:20 AM »

Sad days...

http://motorcycles.honda.com.au/Sports_Touring

Anyways - it's only sad for 'brand faithfuls' as there are plenty of other manufacturers out there embracing this market.

Cheers, Diesel

saaz · « **Reply #59 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:04:18 AM »

The new VFR800 looks pretty good. It has been give an overall makeover for the better. VFR1200 is a good if it is at the right price, but I can't see how it could be modified to be an ST without so many changes that it would be too expensive.

Marcus · « **Reply #60 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:15:56 AM »

I thought the CTX1300 was going to be the replacement

http://powersports.honda.com/2014/ctx1300.aspx

Biggles · « **Reply #61 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:16:23 AM »

The 1200 certainly has some good tech advances. However, as saaz suggests, it still only leaves the F6B and Goldwing as true Honda tourers. If I didn't go to a 'Wing I'd have to go to a Fazer or Trumpy.
Down the track, the OzSTOC might have to be re-badged "OzTourer".

Biggles · « **Reply #62 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:20:23 AM »

Quote from: Marcus on November 06, 2013, 11:15:56 AM

I thought the CTX1300 was going to be the replacement

http://powersports.honda.com/2014/ctx1300.aspx

Some feel its looks are against it. The integrated luggage is a Deauville throw-back and no electric screen was a serious omission. I worry when they talk about "chrome accents". That's not why we bought STs!

Marcus · « **Reply #63 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:24:34 AM »

Quote from: Biggles on November 06, 2013, 11:20:23 AM

Some feel its looks are against it. The integrated luggage is a Deauville throw-back and no electric screen was a serious omission. I worry when they talk about "chrome accents". That's not why we bought STs!

optional extras... probably on the deluxe edition

Quote

Make It Your Own
We'll have plenty of Honda Genuine Accessories available to give your CTX1300 its own look. There'll be a tall windscreen, heated grips, backrest with pad, 12V accessory socket, rear trunk (45L), LED foglight kit, plenty of chrome accents, and more!

BigTed · « **Reply #64 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:26:14 AM »

Has anyone else ridden the VFR1200? Where the ST is on the touring side of sports-touring, the VFR is definitely on the sports side. I don't think I'd want to be on one for very long.

Biggles · « **Reply #65 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:28:59 AM »

Yep. I saw the tall windscreen, Marcus. Dandy. But what about when I want the screen right down so I can be sporty in the twisties without windscreen distortion of my view. Integral heated grips are fine- I use the ones I have about twice a year. LED fog lights are good. I use them the same time I use the heated grips. I adjust my windscreen every week.

Marcus · « **Reply #66 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:48:13 AM »

Quote from: Biggles on November 06, 2013, 11:28:59 AM

I adjust my windscreen every week.

Good point... I guess we'll have to wait. As I can't find any images showing the "tall windscreen" and how integrated it will become.

It would be pretty cool if it would come out of here

I'd like it to be retractable

I'm guessing it will be like this

Biggles · « **Reply #67 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:56:24 AM »

Quote from: Marcus on November 06, 2013, 11:48:13 AM

The seat looks very comfortable, but the pillion has only been given a perch. Pockey would be miffed.

As I said in the other CTX1300 thread, I like the exposed engine look, especially if it dissipates the heat more effectively than the ST13's fairing does. More chrome to polish, but my Purple Polish would handle it.

alans1100 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 06, 2013, 12:20:25 PM »

I'd prefer the delux version out of the two.

Adds Anti-Lock Braking System(ABS), self-canceling turn signals, audio package including Bluetooth connectivity, blacked-out styling elements for a distinctive look.

missing cruise control and decent sized tank (5.1 US gallons or 19.3 L) and DCT

weighs 724.2 lbs or just over 328kg and we thought the STs were heavy.........lol

Whizz · « **Reply #69 on:** November 06, 2013, 01:34:29 PM »

What a truly dreadful looking machine!, and why did they forget the windscreen? sorry but I think this is no replacement whatever for the ST1300, a pathetic grab at trying to look like a yank bike. An awful thing!

Biggles · « **Reply #70 on:** November 06, 2013, 01:34:45 PM »

Quote from: alans1100 on November 06, 2013, 12:20:25 PM

I'd prefer the delux version out of the two.

Adds Anti-Lock Braking System(ABS), self-canceling turn signals, audio package including Bluetooth connectivity, blacked-out styling elements for a distinctive look.

missing cruise control and decent sized tank (5.1 US gallons or 19.3 L) and DCT

weighs 724.2 lbs or just over 328kg and we thought the STs were heavy.........lol

So the Triumph trophy trumps it on virtually every criterion.

Marcus · « **Reply #71 on:** November 06, 2013, 01:51:22 PM »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring/the-richard-hammond-test-drive-triumph-1530085

saaz · « **Reply #72 on:** November 06, 2013, 02:19:25 PM »

I can point you to a lot more tests, and forums where any problems are reported. Quite a few ex ST and BMW 1200RT former owners, and some former BMW1600 owners interestingly enough.

Quote from: Marcus on November 06, 2013, 01:51:22 PM

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring/the-richard-hammond-test-drive-triumph-1530085

Biggles · « **Reply #73 on:** November 06, 2013, 03:50:37 PM »

Quote from: saaz on November 06, 2013, 02:19:25 PM

I can point you to a lot more tests, and forums where any problems are reported. Quite a few ex ST and BMW 1200RT former owners, and some former BMW1600 owners interestingly enough.

Go on, do it. (Only when you feel up to it, of course!)
Get well soon.
It's that blary Canberra climate. Would kill a brown dog.

saaz · « **Reply #74 on:** November 06, 2013, 04:17:57 PM »

I am sitting outside using the laptop, 27c or so, very nice day. But I should be packing, checking the bike for the final time etc etc. I have BWS (bike withdrawl syndrome)

Quote from: Biggles on November 06, 2013, 03:50:37 PM

Quote from: saaz on November 06, 2013, 02:19:25 PM
I can point you to a lot more tests, and forums where any problems are reported. Quite a few ex ST and BMW 1200RT former owners, and some former BMW1600 owners interestingly enough.

Go on, do it. (Only when you feel up to it, of course!)
Get well soon.
It's that blary Canberra climate. Would kill a brown dog.

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