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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2014, 10:50:32 AM »
Hey Lionel,

As long as you are on the same road you are riding together. Some gaps are just a little bigger than others  :whistle.  Don't worry, some of us might be able to keep up with you!  |-i
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2014, 07:53:15 PM »
FarRides have always been on my radar, but I've never got around to undertaking one.    While I've done lots of kilometers, it's always been strings of 700km or thereabouts days, with my biggest single day being only 950km.    These are baby rides compared to those undertaken by many of you.

I see this SS1600k as a significant personal challenge, am well prepared to pull out at any time if I'm not up to it, and to take advice from  the more experienced LD riders.   Arriving at Coffs a couple of days early is a good idea, and after cooling my heels for a couple for days, I'll be champing at the bit to get going.  In the meantime, I plan on doing a couple of 1000km days as "training",  to identify any shortcomings with bike, kit, body and attitude.
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2014, 08:29:37 PM »
Pete, I like your idea "training" as that is exactly what you are doing. LDRiding to me is a sport and I have attempt to approach it that way, started with the smaller runs, read as much as I could about this sport trying to understand what it is all about (I am still reading), trying to understand what is happening to my body and senses as I ride, learning about fatigue management, learning about my bike and a whole heap of other things.....and I am still learning.

Safe Long Distance Riding, I believe, is about the above as it is with many sports, we train, learn and understand our sport and hopefully from gaining these skills, knowledge and experience we will become better at our sport.

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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2014, 10:26:15 PM »
Pete,
Just to clarify the point, the IBA group ride, SS1600, being organised by TJ has nothing to do with FarRiders.
Similarly, FarRides that you'll see "advertised" on the FarRider Forum are not sanctioned nor certified  by the IBA.
Some FarRiders, myself included, undertake both IBA rides and FarRides.
FarRides are less onerous as you can nominate for a 1,000km ride and obtain your FarRider number if the ride is completed as per the rules.
The minimum IBA ride is an SS1600 (actually 1610km).
 

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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2014, 11:20:35 PM »
Thanks gents. I  do understand the differences between the two quite separate orginizations, and perhaps "long distance ride" would have been a more precise term.  Either way, I'm keen to do some accredited long distance riding.
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2014, 05:18:29 AM »
goodonya Pete, I am looking forward to catching up  :thumb
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2014, 07:45:49 AM »
Great strategy Pete, some training will make all the difference.  My suggestion would be to consider a buildup over time to develop your ride fitness for the day.  That is, a slow buildup over time so you peak  on the day. 

When you try some longer rides keep an eye on your body.  Test out some different snack foods (Oat bars and Sultanans and dried pineapple are my faves) that give you the energy you need without upsetting your stomach or having to eat fast food along the way.  On single day rides I have breakfast before I leave and eat from the top box until a stop 8.30pm/9.30pm when I"ll have a plain burger and one coffee.

On your training runs take water with you so you get the feel of how much you need to drink to balance hydration and too many pit stops.  The more you take with you the less time you'll need to spend ratting around servos looking for something you might like. I generally eat while refueling and paying for it.

If you are a coffee drinker go on one of your longer rides without having the morning brew, if the headache and nausea come you might need to think about weaning yourself off it before the big one (along with the alcohol and recreational drugs if yo indulge).

On your test rides see if you can develop a routine when refueling and make a mental note, or a written one, about how long each stop takes and see if you can make them quicker. Practice your routines on your short rides too. This includes getting your dockets, checking them, writing the ODO reading on them, securing them and keeping a log suitable for IBA submission.  It even includes gloves, helmets, earplugs.  I've seen people ride off on the last legs of long rides without their gloves.  I've seen people helmet on, forgot the plugs, helmet off, "what did I take the helmet off for?", nah, helmet on, forgot the plugs, too late I'm going.  The latter used to be me although I now would take the helmet off again and put the plugs in.

If you take, or are thinking of taking ibuprofen or paracetamol (I never do while I'm riding) or use it for another reason be aware of it's effects on your body. On the test rides think hard about anything on the bike or gear related that annoys you and see if you can sort it.

I have no doubt that pretty much anyone can turn up on the day and ride an ST 1770k's in 24 hours, it's really not that hard.  Riding with others, in my experience, helps with fatigue because you can take turns just following along and rest the brain a bit. But getting some of these basics right will help make the big day easier and much more fun for you.

Like TJ, I treat this as a sport and I adopt the same strategies for LD riding that I do when I train for half marathons and marathons. The principles are the same. Hydration, nutrition, don't go too hard and don't waste time at drink stations,  oh, and train.

There's more, but it's great to see people thinking about this stuff.
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2014, 08:21:02 AM »
Thanks Craig  :-++  :-++ :thumb
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2014, 10:16:48 AM »
Thanks Wombattle, Lionel and TJ.   All quite sound and relevant information,  and great advice for any beginning LD rider.
I'm looking at some routes for 1000km+ "out and back" training rides from home.
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2014, 07:31:02 AM »
I'm considering a BP North Caboolture to Rockhampton round trip approximately 1250 km via the Bruce (but lots of road works) or 1420 km via the D'Aguilar and Burnett Hwy.

I won't necessarily do it in the 24 hour time frame, but it will provide practice at sitting in the saddle long distance an Overall Average (OA) speed.

The other one I've considered is from BP North Caboolture out to Charleville  (1520 round trip) or Mitchell (1160 km Round Trip) for the long straight roads and for the endurance training. 

*Edit I've just worked out a trip from BP North Caboolture to Cunamulla would be 1624 km round trip.  8)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/Cunnamulla+QLD/BP+North,+A1,+Burpengary+QLD+4505/@-27.4342316,147.1602552,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x6bacb7a23b537cdb:0x400eef17f20a130!2m2!1d145.6836102!2d-28.0678858!1m5!1m1!1s0x6b93f199a1bab53f:0x743e0d7847afa0e4!2m2!1d152.976733!2d-27.124015!5i1
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2014, 07:53:25 AM »
Consider that LDriding is a sport.....a sports person dosnt train for a 10 k swim by going out and swimming 10k's.......over a period they will do a few 3k's then a 5k then upto a 8k then rest for some days before the event with the right sustenance and stretching.

Working on techniques that streamline fuel and food stops is also equally important.


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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2014, 08:34:03 AM »
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Does that mean we can place some bets on who will win?

Dont think so, Marcus for two reasons,

1. Its not a competition (except rider against his/her self)

2. They are all winners.

But then again, if you are one of those that will bet on one fly crawling up a wall, then go for it. Some one somewhere will give you odds for it.. o:) o:) o:)
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2014, 11:30:30 AM »
Can we see who will be the first "Winner" then?  :nahnah

No one will ever admit to that, in the spirit of LD riding.  The IBA actively discourages record breaking distance/times.
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2014, 12:39:32 PM »
Gary,
I've just returned home after completing a few IBA rides in SA/NT. My biggest worry on these long rides is the possibility of hitting an animal on or crossing the road at night.
On one ride a couple of years ago I hit a roo at 10am near Mitchell so you always have to be on the look out.
Your round trip,  Caboolture to Cunamulla, will require riding at night therefore plan your start time to minimise riding in the dark. Perhaps ride out to Cunamulla, stay overnight, then ride back the next day will be a good training run.
Also an SS1600 requires you to complete a minimum of 1610 kms.
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Re: Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K
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