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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2014, 09:52:19 PM »
I've never experienced this sort of issue Richard, mine is also 2002... But it does sound like it could be an earthing problem, check all the wires that go to the frame, as well as battery terminals etc... It sounds very strange indeed though, honestly I don't have a clue...


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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2014, 10:35:10 AM »
Very hard to offer other than general advice, as hands on is really needed to go thoroughly through electrical problems.  All of the above suggestions are all I can think of as well.  I did have my ignition switch on the ST1100 physically break down the bottom where the key turned the tumbler to make various contact - is it possible that this has broken on or is really loose? Taking the ignition part is the only way to check.

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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2014, 04:30:27 PM »
This looks like great info.  Any tips on fixing this issue we discovered today when we took the motor out of my little Honda to look at it more closely?  Do you think it will buff out?



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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2014, 04:49:59 PM »
A little body filler and a touch of silver paint, it will be good as new.
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2014, 04:50:50 PM »
That would have made for an exciting day out.   :eek
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2014, 06:17:34 PM »
Body filler won't cut the mustard.
Araldite for bigger jobs like this.
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2014, 06:24:42 PM »
We thought about araldite but we can't find the rest of the piston!
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2014, 06:42:55 PM »
There is some stuff called aluminium putty made by devcon that will fix that, or just use the welder to build it up a little. She'll be right.
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2014, 06:49:31 PM »
Any chance of moving these last few posts ,,,,,,,,,,,not sure there relative to topic :well............. :wht11
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2014, 07:09:46 PM »
If the lights and other acc. tend to stay on when the ignition is turned off, the first thing that I would check is the wiring to the respective relays that supply power to the individual components.
It seems to me that the relays must be staying activated,
Therefore could there be an intermittent short happening on the switched side (earthed) side of the relays. This could possibly cause the relays to activate and switch on the offending circuits
Of course this all depends as to weather the main ignition key operated circuit supplys all of the power to the  relays ,or only the operating signal for the relays via the individual switches.
It would also depend on weather the switching of the relays is done with the activating switch being on the hot side of the relays or are the switches to activate the relays placed in the earth wire from the relay,
I hope that you can grasp my intended explanation and that it is not too confusing.
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2014, 07:12:39 PM »
It definitely sounds like a couple of wires have been piched, if the bike powers up with no switch connected.
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2014, 11:01:49 PM »
Does it still do it with all the plastic off?  Start from basics. Somehow you are bypassing ignition switch but you say that it still happens with ignition loom disconnected is that correct?

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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2014, 11:17:10 PM »
Actually a little silicone will sort that out no worries mate... !! :)


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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2014, 12:51:03 AM »
 :hatwave I am overwhelmed by all you support and suggestions. Thanks again to you all.
Steve, the mechanic,  found a reference to a recall in the US, of ST 1300's  built in 2003/4 in which Honda replaced a yellow connector in the main wiering loom located somewhere under the tank.  When he went looking for it he could not locate such a connector there, however he traced the loom back from the ignition swtch and in behind the headlight he found a yellow conector whicch resembled the one discribed in the reported recall.  Upon tuching and agitating this part he found that it was hot to the touch and that the movement intermittently cleared and then  recreated the fault.  Closer examination revield that the plastic at the back of the connector had melted and discoloured.  He replaced the part and made sure that all connections were clean and strong and is now confident the problem is fixed. ( I HOPE HE IS RIGHT).  Anyway the good news is that I picked up my bike today and it seems to be running like a bird. :beer :dred11 :like
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2014, 01:20:09 AM »
Hi there Richard,
Well that is some great news and a very positive result.
I am very pleased for you that there is a  good result and hopefully your electrical problems are solved.
cheers, Winston66, Northampton, Western Australia
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2014, 06:12:03 AM »
Wooo Hooo Richard  :hatwave and well done Mr Mechanic if that the issue.......as lots said sounded very earth related  :think1


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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2014, 06:12:18 AM »
Great news Richard, now time to ride  :thumbs
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2014, 06:23:27 AM »
Fantastic news Richard. Your mechanic is a keeper.  :thumbs
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2014, 06:55:51 AM »
Gotta be happy `bout that.................Fingers crossed, but sounds the piece to the puzzle.. :wht11
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2014, 07:00:25 AM »
Great news Richard, hope to see you on a ride soon. A few of us will be in Coffs Harbour around 18 October
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2014, 08:59:33 AM »
Awesome news Richard :runyay
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2014, 09:20:49 AM »
Intermittent electrical problems can be a real pest to find, and your mechanic has done a great job to track it down and fix it.
Now go and enjoy your riding, without nagging doubts about your ability to get home again.
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2014, 10:43:19 AM »
Top result.     :thumbs

Now all the 2003/4  owners are paranoid, and pulling their seats off looking for yellow connectors.    :eek
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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2014, 10:52:51 AM »
Top result.     :thumbs

Now all the 2003/4  owners are paranoid, and pulling their seats off looking for yellow connectors.    :eek

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Re: ENGINE DIED
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2014, 08:27:16 PM »
 ;-* HA HA HA.  Thanks Uall!
I am thinking of going on the Honda Snoey Mountain ride on Dec 1st.
Hope the bike keeps going.
I understand it is a fantastic experience.
Thanks for all your comments. :Blow
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