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Honda ST1300 Section => Tyres...to suit your ST1300 => Topic started by: Williamson on October 26, 2017, 10:46:14 PM
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Must be an improved version, because so many people have had bad experiences that they call them "Dunflops".
I know the Michelin PR4GTs on the ST1300 are fantastic, so if the Dunlops are better I need to try them.
I test-rode the black ST1300 for a mate the other day and almost ran over the first roundabout, being used to my ST loving the lean and flick. They were original Bridgestones with 7500 (and the front with only 1000 kays left on it). It's a 2010 bike, so they will have gone hard. Horrible feeling!
The PR4 GT rear has let me down. Only around 15k and it's shot, kaput, kangaroo edward (rooted), booked in to Bairnsdale (on the way home from Wooli) AM tomorrow for a newby. Noticed that it's badly scalloped, with lots of wear in the centre and RHS, been worried since Orbost.
This will be rear tyre no. 4 with only 35k on the the 2011 (bought new in 2013) ST1300.
Running it at 44psi, perhaps I'll try 46psi ........ or more, or ride a bit slower.
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Must be an improved version, because so many people have had bad experiences that they call them "Dunflops".
I know the Michelin PR4GTs on the ST1300 are fantastic, so if the Dunlops are better I need to try them.
I test-rode the black ST1300 for a mate the other day and almost ran over the first roundabout, being used to my ST loving the lean and flick. They were original Bridgestones with 7500 (and the front with only 1000 kays left on it). It's a 2010 bike, so they will have gone hard. Horrible feeling!
The PR4 GT rear has let me down. Only around 15k and it's shot, kaput, kangaroo edward (rooted), booked in to Bairnsdale (on the way home from Wooli) AM tomorrow for a newby. Noticed that it's badly scalloped, with lots of wear in the centre and RHS, been worried since Orbost.
This will be rear tyre no. 4 with only 35k on the the 2011 (bought new in 2013) ST1300.
Running it at 44psi, perhaps I'll try 46psi ........ or more, or ride a bit slower.
No! I won't ride slower.
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Or try 42 psi (290 kPa). Works for me! Front and back. Never had one fail before it wore to the wear bars.
But then I only weight 74 kg... :whistle
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Wow , that isn't long... over 20k on mine, and starting to scallop (44psi usually, bit more in rear 2 up). Only weigh 84kg, but we were >550kg all up to/from Nat rally, and lots of twisties (worn to 1cm from edge) Think another 5k still left in the with my normal highway commute.
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I'd be happy if I got 15k out of a rear; usually anything between 8 and 10k and running at 44/45 psi and mostly two up riding.
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Dunlop Roadsmart 2 fitted at Bairnsdale. An enjoyable ride home, not worrying about the old PR4 making it. Not sure if there were many more km left in the old girl.
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Looks like symptoms of over inflation Sir Michael 🤓
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I’ll try the Dunlop Roadsmart 3s when mine are due for change, they have some good reviews 🤓
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Must admit that I just use the pressure honda recommend . . 42psi front n back . . I’m lucky though to get anywhere near 15,000 ks . . More like Alan’s mileage . . But I do have a tad heavy right hand . .
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Dunlop Roadsmart 2 fitted at Bairnsdale. An enjoyable ride home, not worrying about the old PR4 making it. Not sure if there were many more km left in the old girl.
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That IS ugly !!!!
Have no idea and nothing to suggest. WAIT...... I could be a politician.
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Or try 42 psi (290 kPa). Works for me! Front and back. Never had one fail before it wore to the wear bars.
But then I only weight 74 kg... :whistle
Scalloping appeared when rear tyre was set at 42psi (cold), but pressure had dropped over a four day weekend ride. The initial thought was that the drop in pressure had caused the scalloping. On the good (?) advice of others more experienced (and knowledgeable?) in these matters than me, I upped to pressure to 44psi. We can all see that this was no help.
New tyre on now, pressure set at 42psi (cold). It is interesting (to me) that the dealer in Bairnsdale suggested 38 to 40psi. A quick check at the nearby Shell SS, one with the totem style air pump and LCD display, indicated that the pressure was at 41psi. I re-set this to 42psi, checked it against my hand-held VCO dial type pressure gauge and the tyre pressure monitor sensors (TPMS) - 42psi on all three (I reckon that'll be reliable).
Another (to me) bit of interest is the increase in tyre pressure when the tyres heat up. After checking pressures on the TPMS when cold, pressures would often be in the mid (front) to high (rear) 40's after a long, hard ride.
Looks like symptoms of over inflation Sir Michael 🤓
Yes, that seems to be the general opinion.Dunlop Roadsmart 2 fitted at Bairnsdale. An enjoyable ride home, not worrying about the old PR4 making it. Not sure if there were many more km left in the old girl.
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That IS ugly !!!!
Have no idea and nothing to suggest. WAIT...... I could be a politician.
I could slow down, but I had a mighty time carving-up the twisties between Grafton and Ebor, the Macquarie Pass, Jamberoo Pass, etc .........
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I could slow down, but I had a mighty time carving-up the twisties between Grafton and Ebor, the Macquarie Pass, Jamberoo Pass, etc .........
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Dunlop Roadsmart 2 fitted at Bairnsdale. An enjoyable ride home, not worrying about the old PR4 making it. Not sure if there were many more km left in the old girl.
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Nothing a bit of 100mph tape cant fix
Just had to do this on the way back from far ride to Denham WA(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/c6c3e576d8d8b117c27dfd4a6911b118.jpg)
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Nothing a bit of 100mph tape cant fix
Just had to do this on the way back from far ride to Denham WA
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Not much fun in the twisties, or in the wet.
Denham to Perth, 800km plus, I can only assume you couldn't get a replacement before Perth.
Got a pic of the tyre when you got to Perth?
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Denham to Perth, 800km plus, I can only assume you couldn't get a replacement before Perth.
At least three places in Geraldton
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Nothing a bit of 100mph tape cant fix
Just had to do this on the way back from far ride to Denham WA
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Not much fun in the twisties, or in the wet.
Denham to Perth, 800km plus, I can only assume you couldn't get a replacement before Perth.
Got a pic of the tyre when you got to Perth?
Limped into Geralton yesterday....still waiting for new tyre to arrive. Should be back on the road tomorrow
Was not game to go on any further......(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/545c2c9840eb97d56251db423fb13763.jpg)
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Re Williamson's tyres - My first OEM set of tyres did this. The cause is under inflation. See the raised lip on the trailing edge of the tread :fp I only got 13,000 kms off the rear. I researched what I had done wrong and too low a tyre pressure for the weight was the issue. There is a thread on it somewhere in here.
42psi is fine for the bike when you ride it out of the show room as a empty bike.
:think1
42 PSI is under inflated for a bike once its loaded with:-
Bigger windscreen, tools and tyre repair, farkles of all kinds, tip over bars, highway pegs, GPS, Phones, comms, SPOT, extra lighting, water and snacks, cleaning can & cloths, wet weather gear, compressor, disc lock, seat covers and after market seats, etc.
That's just for all your normal riding - :think1
Then you throw on the wife, or extra bags or a sleeping roll, fill the pannier bags, add yourself and helmets and jackets, and maybe a trailer :H
All of a sudden your bike is half a tonne in weight and 42 PSI wont cut it :Whipped
For my sets of tyres since I have run 44 front and 48 rear and now get 20K minimum. :think1 If I recall right I remember Diesel running a lot higher pressures and getting 29K from a set.
Food for thought if you are loading up your bike and riding a long distance ;-* :slvr13
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!
A night in Geraldton couldn't be that bad, well better than the alternative.
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My first OEM set of tyres did this. The cause is under inflation. See the raised lip on the trailing edge of the tread :fp I only got 13,000 kms off the rear. I researched what I had done wrong and too low a tyre pressure for the weight was the issue. There is a thread on it somewhere in here.
42psi is fine for the bike when you ride it out of the show room as a empty bike.
:think1
42 PSI is under inflated for a bike once its loaded with:-
Bigger windscreen, tools and tyre repair, farkles of all kinds, tip over bars, highway pegs, GPS, Phones, comms, SPOT, water and snacks, cleaning can & cloths, wet weather gear, compressor, disc lock, seat covers and after market seats, etc.
That's just for all your normal riding - :think1
Then you throw on the wife, or extra bags or a sleeping roll, fill the pannier bags, add yourself and helmets and jackets, and maybe a trailer :H
All of a sudden your bike is half a tonne in weight and 42 PSI wont cut it :Whipped
For my sets of tyres since I have run 44 front and 48 rear and now get 20K minimum. :think1 If I recall right I remember Diesel running a lot higher pressures and getting 29K from a set.
Food for thought if you are loading up your bike and riding a long distance ;-* :slvr13
Was towing a trailer so this probably did not help. Will have to run with higher pressure... thanks for the advise
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Denham to Perth, 800km plus, I can only assume you couldn't get a replacement before Perth.
At least three places in Geraldton
Geralton carries no stock of anything. I think theu figure if they have to freight parts from perth they are proping up the local economy. Cost me $200 accommodation and $100 more fpr the fitted tyre her in Geralton than what it would.cost in Perth.....oh well my bad......feels like ground hog day......hahahaha
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!
A night in Geraldton couldn't be that bad, well better than the alternative.
Agreed
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.... 42psi is fine for the bike when you ride it out of the show room as a empty bike ..... 42 PSI is under inflated for a bike once its loaded .... 44 front and 48 rear and now get 20K minimum.....
Oh dear! I am confused.
Earlier opinion (in this thread) was that my problem (bad scalloping) was due to over inflation. PCC's problem is very worn and "squared off" wear in the centre of the tyre, which looks (to me) to be symptomatic of long rides on straight, very straight, flat roads. Ya need some corners man!
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Most of the highway between Broome and Geraldton is mainly straight sections linked with a bend or two.
While I was living in Karratha anything more than centre tread wear was unusual. Wear on the softer side compound was minimal compared to what I get around here.
Increase the air pressure is ok but I found it didn't make much difference at the front as any extra load is mostly carried on the rear tyre (pillion and/or trailer).
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.... 42psi is fine for the bike when you ride it out of the show room as a empty bike ..... 42 PSI is under inflated for a bike once its loaded .... 44 front and 48 rear and now get 20K minimum.....
Oh dear! I am confused.
Earlier opinion (in this thread) was that my problem (bad scalloping) was due to over inflation. PCC's problem is very worn and "squared off" wear in the centre of the tyre, which looks (to me) to be symptomatic of long rides on straight, very straight, flat roads. Ya need some corners man!
Yep - I was talking about your tyres Michael. I agree PCC's are just from long straight roads :thumb
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I think the factory recommended tyre pressures are set to provide a compromise between wear and road holding and providing a reasonable braking contact patch. The higher presuures will give better wear rate when riding in mainly open country, just be well prepared for that emergency stop to avoid contact with ‘roos, road debri, other vehicles, pedestrians etc.
I am willing to sacrifice good wear for more safety and better cornering in the Alpine country I do most of my riding in.
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The PR4 GT rear has let me down. Only around 15k and it's shot, kaput ..... Running it at 44psi, perhaps I'll try 46psi ........
Or try 42 psi (290 kPa). Works for me! Front and back. Never had one fail before it wore to the wear bars.
But then I only weight 74 kg... :whistle
...... New tyre on now, pressure set at 42psi (cold). It is interesting (to me) that the dealer in Bairnsdale suggested 38 to 40psi.....
.... 42psi is fine for the bike when you ride it out of the show room as a empty bike ..... 42 PSI is under inflated for a bike once its loaded .... 44 front and 48 rear and now get 20K minimum.....
.... Increase the air pressure is ok ....
I think the factory recommended tyre pressures are set to provide a compromise between wear and road holding and providing a reasonable braking contact patch. The higher presuures will give better wear rate when riding in mainly open country, just be well prepared for that emergency stop to avoid contact with ‘roos, road debri, other vehicles, pedestrians etc.
I am willing to sacrifice good wear for more safety and better cornering in the Alpine country I do most of my riding in.
Yes, I am confused.
But I agree, safety is more important than wear.
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Its my opinion that the right pressure and suspension setting for the weight of a loaded bike is actually safer than a tyre which is underinflated for the weight. Just a gut feel but it would especially apply for riding thru lots of twisties :thumb
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Never had a problem but I suspect there is much more at play here, riding style, different makes of tyres, different tyre build types, different loads, different distribution of loads, different suspension builds, heights and settings . . I think the factory settings are a guide and each should try a mixture of front and rear and collect data and “feel”, tyre wear etc and choice of safety or maximise wear and adjust tyres for each ride . .
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Well said Stroppy :thumb
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Saw the photos at the beginning of this post and it looked a familiar picture. I had the same experience in a short distance, so when I replaced it, I finally listened to some sound advice. Tyre pressures are important and critical to tyre wear. I now run run higher pressures for Mich. PR4 GT F&R and as I run a tyre pressure monitoring system was able to confirm that the sound advice was valid. At 42psi cold with 30 degrees ambient temp, the rear pressure would rise to 55-56 psi at 100KPH. At 47psi cold, the pressure would rise to 53-54 under the same conditions, i.e. a lower running pressure. The result of this is less wear due to the lower temperature that the tyre is running at as pressure rise and temperature are directly related. The first PR4 (42 psi cold) lasted just over 8,000 K with most of the wear being the right side edge with lots of 'bearding' and abrasion. The second PR4 (47psi cold) is at the 9000 K point with an estimated 40% life left. My riding habits have not changed, love that flat torque out of corners.
There are other factors that come into tyre wear, one of them being suspension setup. Rear suspension settings affect the performance/handling and front tyre wear. As well as checking tyre pressures on each ride and during the ride, I check the suspension setting, in particular, preload on the rear. I change from solo to 2 up often requiring the suspension to be changed each time (bit of a PITA). Also use tyres that conform to the specs required for this bike, both in sizing and importantly load ratings. Remember that the weight on the tyres is not just the weight of the bike, rider, passenger, load, fuel and in some cases trailer ball weight. Those that undertake flying know that in a 60 degree bank, 2G is applied to the aircraft and it contents. When turning on a bike is no different and effectively starts to increase from 30 degrees upwards. This is taken by the tyres at an angle which produces tyre distortion, further increasing contact pressure/temperature. Also, when accelerating and/or going uphill, the weight on the rear increases. That rear tyre has a lot to put up with.
I was iffy at first in increasing tyres pressures beyond the book value but tyre technologies have improved in the 18+ plus years since the design of the 1300 and 27+ years for the 1100 and monitoring has confirmed that the lower running pressures/temperatures=longer tyre life. BTW ride comfort has not changed significantly and ride handling is better if the suspension setup is correct. I know now if the setup is wrong as it does not feel right.
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Thanks for the report and data tremarg, something to chew on . .
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Thanks for the report and data tremarg, something to chew on . .
Yes very helpful, I hope!
..... I finally listened to some sound advice
..... I run a tyre pressure monitoring system was able to confirm that the sound advice was valid. At 42psi cold with 30 degrees ambient temp, the rear pressure would rise to 55-56 psi at 100KPH
..... At 47psi cold, the pressure would rise to 53-54 under the same conditions, i.e. a lower running pressure.
..... I check the suspension setting, in particular, preload on the rear.
..... I change from solo to 2 up often requiring the suspension to be changed each time (bit of a PITA).
..... trailer ball weight.
..... ride handling is better if the suspension setup is correct.
..... I know now if the setup is wrong as it does not feel right.
I've had lots od sound advice, problem is some if it is opposing. :think1
Similar readouts on my TPMS, when tyres are hot.
Very interesting.
How do I know when the rear preload is correct for me?
Preload is set, not changed when riding with pillion or with trailer. Might explain a few things?
When, how do I know?
With my riding style, I can't tell.
Phew!!!!!!
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I have found when the suspension is set for our bike being fully loaded, it rides, and handles like it does, when its just me on the bike unloaded. :thumb Before I found the sweet spot when loaded, it felt heavy in the rear and bounced, wallowed and the front was light.
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'Sweet Spot' is the key to a lot that happens while riding. My riding, as the rider, continually varies from just myself to 2 up to 2up with luggage full. The continual setting of the preload with the manual knob became a pain. I tried an adaptor which slid over the knob to make it easier to turn, particularly at higher settings when the knob becomes harder to grip as it becomes flush with the plastic work. It is one of the items on the list of checks before riding but occasionally is forgotten resulting in 'Something is not right'.
The sweet spot for me is when the rear suspension preload is set at the point where the rake angle of the front fork to the ground is at the bike's design point for correct 'feel' while cornering etc. If it incorrect, the rider has to hold the corner which places a force on the front tyre. Hence my assertion about front tyre wear linked to the suspension setting.
To correct this and maintain correct preload for any given load situation, I converted the rear suspension preload setting to electric. I can now alter the preload on the hop and now have the ability to accurately set the preload to any load condition. This is why the Goldwing and BMW's of this world go to the effort of fitting 'electronic' rear suspension.
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When I replaced the OEM rear shock with a Progressive (company name not spring type) one I tried to set the new ride height at a compromise position between 1 and 2 riders. The rebound was advised to be set at 1 for one rider or 2 for the two of us and I tried 3 when I had the trailer as well but after the first two up and trailer trip I decided to leave it at 2 and it seems ok.
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Mark, I have taken the liberty of quoting some of your post, from a little earlier today, in this thread.
.... coming back from the tyre man who advised me my new tyre (early November just before the rally) needs replacing. Whilst there is still plenty of centre tread, the off centre is badly worn and scalloped. We agreed there were 2 possible reasons for this - the tyre was slightly under inflated for the weight I was carrying and I had too much fun in Tasmania (and I did). Actually, is it possible to have too much fun on a motorcycle? I don't think so.
When asking for opinions or views on the scalloping I experienced on my ST13's rear tyre, see pic in Post #5 above, responses were divided, and I'm still none the wiser.
I have come to the conclusion that it's more fun wearing the tyres out than worrying about wearing the tyres out.
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That's my conclusion too.
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Mark, I have taken the liberty of quoting some of your post, from a little earlier today, in this thread.
.... coming back from the tyre man who advised me my new tyre (early November just before the rally) needs replacing. Whilst there is still plenty of centre tread, the off centre is badly worn and scalloped. We agreed there were 2 possible reasons for this - the tyre was slightly under inflated for the weight I was carrying and I had too much fun in Tasmania (and I did). Actually, is it possible to have too much fun on a motorcycle? I don't think so.
When asking for opinions or views on the scalloping I experienced on my ST13's rear tyre, see pic in Post #5 above, responses were divided, and I'm still none the wiser.
I have come to the conclusion that it's more fun wearing the tyres out than worrying about wearing the tyres out.
Ok guys have got a tec Question Michael you have quoted a post from Langers on the 20 2 2020 for me the previous post from yours is from Williams on 16/11/2017 and I have noticed this on another thread so my question is has Langers post been deleted or have I got a gremlin that I need to track down
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Mark, I have taken the liberty of quoting some of your post, from a little earlier today, in this thread.
.... coming back from the tyre man who advised me my new tyre (early November just before the rally) needs replacing. Whilst there is still plenty of centre tread, the off centre is badly worn and scalloped. We agreed there were 2 possible reasons for this - the tyre was slightly under inflated for the weight I was carrying and I had too much fun in Tasmania (and I did). Actually, is it possible to have too much fun on a motorcycle? I don't think so.
When asking for opinions or views on the scalloping I experienced on my ST13's rear tyre, see pic in Post #5 above, responses were divided, and I'm still none the wiser.
I have come to the conclusion that it's more fun wearing the tyres out than worrying about wearing the tyres out.
Ok guys have got a tec Question Michael you have quoted a post from Langers on the 20 2 2020 for me the previous post from yours is from Williams on 16/11/2017 and I have noticed this on another thread so my question is has Langers post been deleted or have I got a gremlin that I need to track down
Not missing anything..quote is from a different thread not this one
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Correct. No gremlins.
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R ok thanks guys I can stop sweating now I wouldn’t know where to start looking or what a gremlin looks like :OldMan
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You just need to add water. Haven't you had plenty of that out your way?
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You just need to add water. Haven't you had plenty of that out your way?
Yep have had some good water here . So if I throw the computer into a bucket of water are gremlins like rats and will be the first to desert the sinking ship :rofl
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Ok guys have got a tec Question Michael you have quoted a post from Langers on the 20 2 2020 for me the previous post from yours is from Williams on 16/11/2017 and I have noticed this on another thread so my question is has Langers post been deleted or have I got a gremlin that I need to track down.
Thought you young guys would have all of the tech questions covered, and wouldn't need help from the wiser ones in the older generation.
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Here we go again ... tyres.
Some of you may recall me needing to replace the rear tyre on the ST1300 at Mannum (well a trip to Adelaide actually). I was a little p'd orf as I thought I didn't get many kms out of it. But today, more info came to hand.
This AM, I had the front on the ST13 replaced (a PR 5 GT for a Road 6 GT). The tyre guy suggested I got my money's worth out of the front - 18,000km, fitted in October 2020 (didn't realise I got so much riding in between COVID lockdowns). Which means, with approx. 3000km post Adelaide, the rear PR 5 GT did approx. 15,000km. Happy with that.
And with very little scalloping (compared to previous) on the PR 5 GT rear, I'm also happy with that. And it seems to me that the higher pressure is the answer.
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And it seems to me that the higher pressure is the answer.
What sort of pressures, Michael?
I've been running 43 Front, 44 Rear for a while now and all seems good... :popcorn
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What sort of pressures, Michael?
I've been running 43 Front, 44 Rear for a while now and all seems good.
42 Front & 44 Rear - all of the time, with or without Helen or trailer, but not with both - Helen won't come camping with me. I wonder why?
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I use 43/43 or 44/46 with a pillion. I'm 88kg, but have 10g of tools etc in the panniers. Currently road 6s. Tyres are not cheap these days ,$700 for the set. Old angel gt's got 20000 but really flat-spotted on the rear making cornering "interesting"
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I do 44/46 as well. Similar loading scenario to DavidP. I seem to have a pillion more often than not so I just leave it at that. Anything less results in bad scalloping of the rear.
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What sort of pressures, Michael?
I've been running 43 Front, 44 Rear for a while now and all seems good.
42 Front & 44 Rear - all of the time, with or without Helen or trailer, but not with both - Helen won't come camping with me. I wonder why?
Same as the Bav. 2,9 and 3.0 bar,(factory settings). 42 and 43.5 ( 44 ). With suspension setting for Pillion. o:)