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2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« on: July 06, 2014, 04:12:40 PM »
Hello Everyone
I just bought an ST1300 and because it is second hand I would appreciate if somebody could give me a quick direction of what parts I should check for wear and tear. I have been absent from the 2 wheel world for some years but now in retirement I have the urge to ride again. I had Honda's before like a 750 F1 and a Hawke 400 and my wife had a 90 steptrough before she took over the Hawke. I still remember the problems I had to get the right info for syncing the 4 barrel carbies and replacing the steering bearings because of stability problems. But in the end it was fun till the real life started. Mortgage, Kids and self employed Electrical Contractor.
Now I like to get this bike in the right condition to be reliable enough for some travel in the more remote areas like anywhere but the Capital cities. It's bad enough to brake down with a car but a motorbike is even worse. Cant sleep under the bike or in the bike but a car would allow this and carry enough tools for repair.
A friend already pointed out that the brake pads a low and some advice from this forum which are the best replacement brand/type would be of great help.

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 04:18:02 PM »
Welcome Alf,

What year model and where do you live (approx)

You have to love a wife that rides  :thumbsup

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 04:26:12 PM »
Hi Curious1 and welcome to OzSTOC from SA.    At 32,000km your ST1300 is nearly run in, so I would anticipate that only the running gear such as brakes and tryes would need to be looked at.    Changing engine oil, final drive oil, brake and clutch fluids and coolant might be a good idea.  Then you have a solid starting point for your own maintenance schedule.  They are rock solid reliable, and trouble free bikes and you will have a long future together.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 04:27:10 PM »
Welcome Alf. With only 32,000 on the clock, I don't think you need to be checking too much, just how much fuel is left in the tank.  :grin
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 04:30:10 PM »
It is only early days for that ST1300. As mentioned all the consumable items would need checking just to establish a bse from which to do other things.  A few of us around Canberra so if you have any questions or whatever give us a hoy.  I have an ST1100 but have done tyres and brakes on an ST1300.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 04:33:08 PM »
G'day Alf,

I bought my ST1300 with the same kays as yours and from bitter experience found it was in dire need of a brake and clutch fluid change. My suggestion is you check it out thoroughly before it becomes a big problem as it has for me.  My bike has a complete log book but judging from the state of the clutch fluid it had never been changed.

It is not that difficult to do and certainly way easier than replacing the components which get damaged when there is water in the hydraulic lines.
 

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2014, 04:51:27 PM »
G'day Alf, welcome to the forum :hatwave

As for brake pads I would recommend MetalGear. We also get a 10% discount :eek :thumbsup check out this link:

MetalGear Industries Brake Components for STs


Anyway as everyone has said you shouldn't have any issues with the bike, just check all the fluids, tyres and brakes :thumbs

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2014, 04:56:23 PM »
You must have drawn a bad straw HT, most of the bikes are fault free.

As has been said, check the brakes do an oil and filter change (just for peace of mind). Fill the tank and go ride. These are the most reliable bikes I have ever seen, and go for ever as long as they are ridden.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2014, 05:11:55 PM »
Welocme along to the forum......enjoy  :hatwave

As others have said, take ALL the wet stuff out and put new wet stuff in everything, filters too..... :thumbsup

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2014, 05:12:46 PM »
Hello curious1 and welcome to the OzSTOC wonderland of information and social events.

Only niggly problem I've had with mine was the FI light blinking after around 50,000 km (now 88.000 km on a 2004 model) and it was a relatively simple fix.  The symptoms were not idling when cold, FI light blinking and then after warm up, kill the engine and restart and FI light goes off and engine idles perfectly. 

Details here on how to fix it here. http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5870.msg75321#msg75321

The other was Cruise control related after a Tyre change where the mechanics had moved the speed sensor on the rear wheel to about a 12 mm gap.  should be about 2 to 3 mm.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2014, 05:22:37 PM »
Welcome to the Forum.  Great advice so far, and you've only been here for just over an hour!
The reason folks have problems with Hondas (and inferior types too) as has already been mentioned, is their not being ridden.  Once you change all the fluids you will have headed off problems in many areas.  After doing the other jobs (filters and brake pads) you will only need to ride it every day and at least 20,000 km per year to fend off any other problems.   :thumbs
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2014, 05:46:37 PM »
Valve clearances were due at the Major Service at 24,000km, so it might be worth checking the service log to determine if they were done.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2014, 05:50:17 PM »
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2014, 06:07:31 PM »
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2014, 06:24:52 PM »

You must have drawn a bad straw HT, most of the bikes are fault free.

Yeah Brock.

The reputation for reliability was the reason I bought a Honda.  I was all set to buy a BMW or Triumph but was put off by their reputation for unreliability.

So it is a real disappointment to be suffering the issues I am now particularly when I need to ride the damn thing. The lack of parts support from Honda Australia only compounded the problem.



 

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2014, 07:01:19 PM »
Fortunately, there are plenty of reliable suppliers in Oz, UK and USA.
Mostly cheaper than Honda Aust.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2014, 07:05:44 PM »
Thank you for all your reply. The previous owner changed 6 month ago the brake/clutch fluid and tyres. The bike has done since then 4.5k and the front is new (to me) but the rear is a bit flat in the middle. The oil and filter (to you change filter every oil change? I only do this on my car every 3th change of oil) I will change oil this week just to have a known start.
This evening (just an hour ago) I have with the help of an "Haynes Manual" started to explore the inners of the bike and when taking off (after having a lot of fun finding the little leaver to remove the back seat) the main seat a couple of rubbers fell off. I will attach a picture from this rubbers and if someone can tell me where the have to go I can re-assemble the bike for a rego inspection drive and  changing rego to my name tomorrow.
I have to digest all the info and news and will be back in the morning hopefully finding an answer for this rubbers.
The bike is a 11/05 ST1300 A-4 Model and burgundy and if somebody is in need of an towbar please contact me.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock - Towbar
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2014, 07:34:17 PM »
Alf

Will have another go at finishing off my last post.

Welcome to the Group.

We are looking for a used towbar for an 02 ST1300. What sort of $ are you chasing for it (landed in Toowoomba).

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2014, 08:01:52 PM »
Everyone changes their oil filter every oil change, mate.  There are even some folk who only change the filter and then change oil every second filter!  That's how good the oils are now.
Check the auto stores for Ryco or SCA Z436 filters.  Half or less than  the cost of the Honda ones.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2014, 10:21:38 PM »
Hi Alf, welcome to the group.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2014, 12:09:37 AM »
Welcom to the forum Alf,

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2014, 08:15:47 AM »
Hi Gerard
I will need some time to get shipping cost for the towbar, it's heavy and long, to big for AU Post.

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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2014, 01:34:24 PM »
I will need some time to get shipping cost for the towbar, it's heavy and long, to big for AU Post.


Have you checked that?  They parcel-post some pretty odd stuff.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2014, 06:13:46 PM »
Had my second ride today and for the second time this Fat Pregnant Lady rolled on it's side when parking. 1st time I got cramp in my left hip while trying to get the sidekick down while stationary already and today lost control parking under a tree with wet leave being the lubricant at about 2-3kmh and using the brake. All things which I got away before with lighter bikes but at 330kg it is a different kettle of fish. Have to treat this FPL with more care or one day she will roll on my foot. Hope this lost love can be restored with more familiarity and practice and to make the hole thing worse a guy checking the bike for rego warned me that his friend lost control coming home to his place and hitting the rear brake and looked the front wheel on wet grass.
Any body willing to give me some advice to stay upright at very slow speeds? At higher speeds I am doing not to bad but parking and manouvering is a new problem at this weight. I use a plastic sheet about 5mm thick to put under the centre stand to turn the bike around on the spot in my carport. Works ok but has somebody got a better idea? More elegant maybe. While doing this I have to keep the bike front/rear balanced (wheels of the ground) and this is a difficult thing.
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Re: 2nd Hand ST1300 with 32k on clock
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2014, 06:26:21 PM »
Main advice for slow speed stuff is practice a fair bit until you feel ok about it.  I try and keep both feet on the pegs to maintain balance, then use a balance of throttle, clutch and rear brake to steady the bike.  With practice anyone can do it. I have jusmped on all sorts of bikes over the years, and this works for Goldwings down, but I do understand your situation as those heavier bikes can feel rather daunting - particularly when it is not yours to drop!!

Once you start dangling the feet you start loosing control of the bike, as you need to use its power to keep up the balance.  I practice all the time, when leaving the driveway to make sure everything is working, or just playing around in a carpark while waiting for others in a group to get ready.
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