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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Comms and Audio => Topic started by: bloodbikes on June 17, 2014, 02:30:36 PM
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Does anyone know how I connect my gme 3500 to an Sena SR10, I have then connector lead with 4 wires, do I have to cut the microphone plug off and re wire it, and do I need a jack plug so I can hear the conversation so using my helmet speakers as extension speakers.
Basically looking for a wiring diagram, am using the headlight pass switch as a ptt button.
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Brock has done this exact install using a Tx3500.....he will be along soon ;-*
Until then have a read of this ----> http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4519.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4519.0)
Cheers
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I have the parts needed at home with me Peter, and the tools and diagrams as well
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I can say he is good at making them :like
Oh we have to swap one day Brock :fp
Turtle
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Bloodbikes
A few of us have done the same thing but into a Uniden 7700. All posted on here. I have a seperate lead you can try. It uses two wires from the normal PTT lead in the front and a second speaker lead from the aux jack in the rear. Yorkie has run a patch lead internal to have all four wires into the front which looks a lot better.
Give us a call or PM :phone :CB--
Wombat
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A big thank you to Brock for making my lead up.
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He is good at those sena leads now :Blow
Turtle
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I have the parts needed at home with me Peter, and the tools and diagrams as well
Brock
from todays outing Im assured you are the doyen all things electrikery
definatley a subject out of the league of this simple marine engineer
my next job is the UHF, ive got the senna hub and the blank patch lead but not the radio
do you work your magic with uniden sets aswell as GME
if so is the 8010 a viable option
http://www.uniden.com.au/australia/p_uh8010nb_ant_index.asp (http://www.uniden.com.au/australia/p_uh8010nb_ant_index.asp)
if you can make me up the patch lead ill order the radio and forever be in your debt :Blow
or just say the word and ill get the GME
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I havent done one for the Uniden, so dont have the pin out for the plug, but I'm sure Yorkie does and will post it shortly. It doesnt take long to make, just need a bit of wire and a plug for the audio out.
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I have pinouts for just about all of them ;-*
Also the connectors for the radios and the tools to put them on :thumb
BUT i do need to charge for them as its a business (I'm trying to stay afloat)
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I have the parts needed at home with me Peter, and the tools and diagrams as well
Brock
from todays outing Im assured you are the doyen all things electrikery
definatley a subject out of the league of this simple marine engineer
my next job is the UHF, ive got the senna hub and the blank patch lead but not the radio
do you work your magic with uniden sets aswell as GME
if so is the 8010 a viable option
[url]http://www.uniden.com.au/australia/p_uh8010nb_ant_index.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.uniden.com.au/australia/p_uh8010nb_ant_index.asp[/url])
if you can make me up the patch lead ill order the radio and forever be in your debt :Blow
or just say the word and ill get the GME
The below is the radio that Yorkie, Wombat, and I have.
If you already have the blank Sena cable then have a chat with Yorkie as he did mine in such a way that there is only 1 cable and the speaker works as well :-)
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Stu, You can order the radio, I will need it and the lead for about 15 mins and you will be good to go.
A good excuse for a ride to York.
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Stu, You can order the radio, I will need it and the lead for about 15 mins and you will be good to go.
A good excuse for a ride to York.
your a wonderful human being Brian
there may be a nighthood in this for you
Ill get onto evil bay and start the ball rolling
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Not sure I actually posted the link. lol ... prestige communications. Look for uniden 7700nb.
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Better to get the radio from Presige or Dale, at least then you have a waranty (until you open it and change things.)
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Trina bought mine on eBay. It came from Prestige which is 10km from where I live. When I saw the receipt I laughed. Then went back to them for aerial and sr10 direct.
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And if you get to Yorkies this week we you can test it on the Turtles Shakedown to Williams :like
Turtle
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Love your style ....
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should be here by end of the week
have to figure out a time after that
thanks once again
youll have to let me know your poison
ill get pezz to get you a bottle for fitting his heated grips
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Hahaha ... hang on .. wait .. What the? ??
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radio arrived today
its the size of the palm of my hand
will be manufacturing a double aerial mount this week to make it go faster
will tee something up with you brian or bring the bits to williams on sunday - pick up whenever
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You will also need a ground independent antenna.
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came with the radio
my am / fm radio antenna is actually a uhf aswell
but 2 antenna look quicker than 1
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A huge thanks to Yorkie for dancing his nimble fingers over my UHF patch lead
the 4 hour turn around ride from rockingham to York and back for what was 15 minutes work was enjoyable to say the least
lovely weather unlike the forecast tomorrow
He also fits heated hand grips
Vote 1 - Yorkie elevated to god like satus
cheers brian
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A huge thanks to Yorkie for dancing his nimble fingers over my UHF patch lead
the 4 hour turn around ride from rockingham to York and back for what was 15 minutes work was enjoyable to say the least
lovely weather unlike the forecast tomorrow
He also fits heated hand grips
Vote 1 - Yorkie elevated to god like satus
cheers brian
Thanks Stu, it is all part of the service we offer.
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Ahhhhh technology
once again i find myself on my knees praying to the gods for guidance
patch lead constructed (thank you lord)
radio installed
all the little wirey things connected up
bluetooth hub paired to the helmets headset
now for the test using a 40ch handheld to prove just how clever i am
transmitting from the hand held on ch 26 i can hear myself talk through the helmet
thats a good start - the quality isnt fantastic but i least now i know how terrible my voice sounds
transmitting from the helmet I expect to hear those dulcet tones through the handheld
NOTHING
key the PTT button and check the bike radio - yep its registering a TX signal
check the hand held - yep its registering a carrier
NO VOICE
tried it on the trucks radio same thing
so obviously the system works
now at this point in time i could read the instructions - but that would be un-Australian
Im obviously doing something wrong
ANY IDEAS WHAT ???
is there a band width discrepancy between 40 and 80 ch radios
or am i just a technology numpty
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"now at this point in time i could read the instructions - but that would be un-Australian"
Sorry Stu I cant help you but that's Gold. :wht11
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Blackduck,
As you have probably worked out you are getting no audio from the microphone to the Radio. As i understand there is two steps for the audio. Bluetooth from helmet to SR10 and wire from SR10 to radio. If you bluetooth your phone to the SR10 and make a call it will test the bluetooth part, if you can make a goog phonecall the problem is in your wiring most probably.
There may also be a configuration problem with the SR10, but ive never read a manual for it..
Hope this helps a little in your faultfinding.
Hendo
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On mine you can't hear the radio through the cb speaker, only through the helmet while the patch lead is connected. You should be able to hear the transmit on another cb, and any incoming through the headst
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Stu, the mike wire may not be terminated properly in the RJ45 plug, in other words I may have stuffed up.
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Stu, the mike wire may not be terminated properly in the RJ45 plug, in other words I may have stuffed up.
what your saying brian is another trip to york
it will have to be in a few weekends time
ive got an overnighter next weekend and youve got the border run after that
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:law now for the test using a 40ch handheld :||||
the 80 ch GME back to a 40 ch handheld will be (as Elmer Fud says when hunting wabbits) VEWY VEWY quiet.
on the 40 ch you'll need volume at near max to hear yourself come back :thumb
its all due to bandwidth and modulation
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Blackduck do a quick check to confirm your Mic is working.......make a phone call, if they cannot here you check the mic connection into the Sena ? You may have inadvertently unplugged when putting your helment on if the Mic to Sena connection is not in a bullet proof location in your lid :think1
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Also plug the sR-10 into the 'puter and set mic gain to high :wink1
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Also, if you can get to me sometime, I can re-terminate the RJ45, as I have the tools. (I can also check the settings for your sena stuff)
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Blackduck
This situation is hauntingly close to mine. Before we go any further what headset are you using. I presume its sena. If not you have the same problem as me. I have an old lead old style with a seperate speaker lead from the aux speaker jack. I know this works so it would be a simple check to connect this. I need a ride so I can bring it to you as I am going to Baldivis this week.
Wombat
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Blackduck
This situation is hauntingly close to mine. Before we go any further what headset are you using. I presume its sena. If not you have the same problem as me. I have an old lead old style with a seperate speaker lead from the aux speaker jack. I know this works so it would be a simple check to connect this. I need a ride so I can bring it to you as I am going to Baldivis this week.
Wombat
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cheers bill
but ive got the senna SMH10R
im about to go outside and put my limmited knowledge to work with multimeter in hand
a quick check accross the terminals should confirm if Brians god like status has to be revoked
if i get full continuity on all leads then its over to the gods again
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:law now for the test using a 40ch handheld :||||
the 80 ch GME back to a 40 ch handheld will be (as Elmer Fud says when hunting wabbits) VEWY VEWY quiet.
on the 40 ch you'll need volume at near max to hear yourself come back :thumb
its all due to bandwidth and modulation
I just love it when electronics types start talking dirty
sends you all gose bumpy ;-*
Ill check brians wiring first then move on to the more difficult
The KISS method has always worked for me in the past
BTW do you still do those PTT buttons that tuck in between the grip and switch unit, and do they connect up to the senna PTT outlet on the SR10
the strap to the bars unit with the senna leaves alot to be desired
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Stu, the mike wire may not be terminated properly in the RJ45 plug, in other words I may have stuffed up.
Brian
just put the meter across the RJ45 plug and the senna plag
resistance all over the place
mind you that could be because i operate with sausage fingers (thats why im a mechanical engineer not electrical)
when i plug the uniden mic into the radio and transmit i get reception on the handheld so the radio works
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Stu,
If you can get to Jandakot before friday, I can re do the plug for you, I will take my crimping toll to work, and I will be able to update the firm ware in your sena stuff and configure it for you.
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Stu,
If you can get to Jandakot before friday, I can re do the plug for you, I will take my crimping toll to work, and I will be able to update the firm ware in your sena stuff and configure it for you.
cheers brock
snowed under at work ATM so may have to wait till after border run
but ill keep it in mind
I think its a conspiracy
brian has set it up so i can listen but not talk
me thinks hes been having a word with my wife :grin
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Want me to bring crimper and plugs to BV? We can experiment.
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thanks mark
but i work for a living - no border run for me this year
maybe next year
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so i got in and had another play with it tonight and same thing
next step was to disconnect all the leads and have another go putting them all back in
nothing
so i disconnected the bikes power supply to the sena
it worked :thumbs
connected the power up again and the radio was telling me lo power
Flat battery
obviously its better to run the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning while playing with this than hope the st battery lasts more than 20 mins
I think its god telling me ive wasted my money
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Stu
I will bring the spare cable around on the weekend which should solve your problems.
Bill
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I have heard of the usb power lead causing problems before, I dont have mine powered from the bike, I just use the internal batteries. It runs for ages, so you could just have it charging when parked.
I will try running from power and see what happens, if there is a problem, then Sena should be made aware...
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My hub is bike powered and no issues as long as you use the Sena supplied USB lead (other leads will not power on the hub). One hub (Lionel's) did have some consistency problems with powering on and connecting up, so I swapped mine for his before the Transcontinental ride, restored the firmware and it has powered on and connected up properly ever since.
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I am just using standard USB cable on mine and swap between it and phone and never had a problem regardless of power state.
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Your not running it through a "fuseblock"?? of any sort are you??
I've had occasion where the fuseblock internal electronics have upset UHF radio's before.
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I tried the sena supplied usb power lead but it didnt sit nicely in my USB adapter so i switched to the ciggy plug that came with the unit
as far as power supply goes i run a common bus line through a fused solenoid triggered from the ignition via a handlebar mounted switch block so fuse yes / block no
now ive put some jibbers back in the battery ill have another go
its just a matter of trial and error
ive tried the instructions and failed so now its good old fashioned make it us as you go alongness
what could go wrong
Bill I got the patch lead sorted thanks all the same
ive got an overnighter to pemberton this weekend so if it doesnt play on bike power ill take brocks lead and just run it off its own battery
Thanks to brian, dale, brock, bill and all the sound advice on what should be an easy install
i figure we'll either sort it or it will drive me nuts :||||
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i figure we'll either sort it or it will drive me nuts :||||
That is a very short journey for some :rofl
Run all the earths to battery is best :wink1
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IT WORKS
:runyay
i dont know how and i dont know why
but im not game to upset it in any way (i wont even talk harsh in its presence)
but i re connected the whole thing
this time applying mechanical engineering force (instead of what i consider electrical engineering) to the connections
with or without charging lead it works
Ran voice com both ways between the bike and hand held
mind you it took some prompting for the guy on the other end to respond
So well done crew
another disaster averted
Now let me send you some pictures of this rash ive got :H
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Great news now come and fix my problems :fp
although Pit Crew seems to think I am the problem
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Well done Stu, we will send others around to you now.
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Well done Stu, we will send others around to you now.
HELL NO
I couldnt handle the stress
anyway the sight of me putting electrical connectors together with a 2lb hammer would probably turn most people away :grin
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putting electrical connectors together with a 2lb hammer
There is the sign of a amateur. You need at least a 10Lb