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Honda ST1100 Section => Tyres...to suit your ST1100 => Topic started by: Diesel on September 08, 2011, 11:11:20 PM

Title: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on September 08, 2011, 11:11:20 PM
It doesn't matter for this poll whether you pilot an 11 or 13.

Just interested who's getting the bucks from us Sport Touring legends!

If you run different brand F & R then vote on the REAR TYRE ONLY.

(Only one vote per member you sneakies!)

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on September 13, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
I just had a set of Avon storms on, but they are not on the bike. Shinko Verge radials are on now, but have not turned on the road as yet.

Previous tyres - Avons Azarros, Storms, Z6s, D205s, BT020s, Continental Roadattacks, Dunlop Roadsmarts.  All on the ST11. I could go back to 1976....
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Streak on September 13, 2011, 09:20:46 PM
I am currently running Battle Axes, and well after what i got them for out of the US, i am running them again :)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on September 13, 2011, 09:35:07 PM
Too late to now include a rating, but in order of best mileage/grip combination and including how much they cost (all bought in Australia so far) the best so far have been Avon Storm Ultra 2s (best handling and grip in all conditions, and mileage back up to 13,000kms plus for a set), next best original Avon Azzaros as they had enough grip for same use and the same mileage as the newer Ultras.  All the rest were ok, but 10,000kms max life or less and not as good grip wise overall.

The Shinkos (and they are in ST13 sizes) are the first tyres I have bought from the US. The cost difference to fiting a set in Australia has paid for a few tyre fitting tools :)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Rodd on September 14, 2011, 06:30:20 PM
I recently fitted the Bridgestone BT023s that I ordered from the US.

The old tyres had worn to a v-shape at the front, so made cornering very interesting to say the least!

The new tyres feel so much more sure-footed and my cornering confidence has improved markedly.

I have read that some people (in the US) have said that they wear too quickly, so I guess that I'll just have to find out.
After fitting them and riding the 5 k's to work I was surprised at how warm the tyres felt (on a cool day). I may be wrong but this suggests to me that they are making a good effort at providing grip. Of course, the bike now corners much more predictably now that the bikes tyres have a rounded cross section rather than the old tyres 'V' cross section!  :)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: innet57 on September 14, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
I ran two sets of Battle Axes in succession and had no complaints - around 10,000k both times and possibly could have done more, but changed so I had a new set for long distance rides each time. Currently running Pirrelli  Angels - very impressed - first ride was 3 days, (2000k) in pouring rain on the way to last year's GP. Now have 8000k on them and looking good for 12,000k. Distance wore the front tyre into a V with the Bridgestones, haven't got that indication with the Pirelli's yet. I think they will be my choice again next time - confidence in a tyre is half the solution.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: sonicpelican on September 15, 2011, 08:24:03 PM
The bike came with the BT020s which I thought performed quite well.  I got around 12,000 Kms before replacing front and rear.  A lot of that was two up riding.

Next was a set of Avon Storms.  Seemed to be going great guns when at around 6,000 Kms the rear delaminated and let go.  I thought I must have sliced it on something on the road so just replaced it with a Dunlop RoadSmart as the Storms weren't available at the shop.  Interestingly, on a ride a few months later, another ST had the same thing happen to a rear Avon Storm with around the same mileage, food for thought.  Anyway, at this stage I was running the Avon Storm on the front and the Dunlop RoadSmart on the rear.

Less that 4,000 Kms later the Dunlop RoadSmart was gone.  It just kept balling up lumps of rubber and disappearing.  I suspect that as I do a lot of two up riding they couldn't take the weight and overheated.  At around the same time it was noticed the Avon Storm on the front was developing lateral cracks.

On went the Michelin Pilot Road 2s, front and rear, just before the tour of Tassie.  These are still going strong after about 6,000 Kms with more than 50% left.  Most notably they performed really well in Tassie in the West where a lot of the windy roads don't get sunlight during the day so the road doesn't dry out in patches.  Over these roads other bikes had trouble keeping up even though I was two up.  I'm not a fast rider, they just instill confidence.  Really like these tyres.

Cheers
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on September 17, 2011, 08:23:28 PM
I am running Metzler Z6 interacts, I would like to get PR2s, but want the correct size so the speedo is correct. They wear well and handle ok for my riding.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on September 17, 2011, 08:33:37 PM
PR2s are available in the right front size for the front (the 110/80 ones) but it seems in Australia they are rare.  The Z6s were hard to come by in the right front size as well last time I asked.  The Z6s are a great tyre in all conditions, they just have average tyre life for me.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on September 17, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
I knew it was something like that, and as I dont want mismatched tyres I will stick with the Z6s I get about 21K out of the front, and 16 from the rear so its not too bad. As for availability, The local STealer does the Cop bikes, so they have a supply
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: rendog on September 18, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
Michellin PR2's all the way.  8)
Highly recommended for the 13s.
Now I just need to get the suspension sorted.  ???
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: OzRider on September 19, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
First set of replacment tyres after i biught the bike was a set of PR2's thought they wer great from day one.

The rear went first after a great run of approx 12k couldnt get PR2's at the time and wnet for (was talked into) a BT023 which wasnt too bad later replaced the front with the same BIG MISTAKE thank god there are not too many corners in the NT the front developed a mind of its own.......never again.

Just fitted a new full set of PR3's its like having an old friend back again felt good straight up, just hope they wear well 3 sets of tyres in just over 18 months is getting difficult to explain to the other half.

Interested on your comment Rendog about the suspension what do you intend doing im currently looking at a set of Sonic springs and gold valves for the front not sure about the rear at this stage.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: rendog on September 19, 2011, 08:59:25 PM
Interested on your comment Rendog about the suspension what do you intend doing im currently looking at a set of Sonic springs and gold valves for the front not sure about the rear at this stage.


Hey Oz,
I'm still tossing up between constant and variable rate springs. I fitted a set (4) of variable rate springs from K-MAC to the wife's crumpledoor and raised it 2 inches at the same time. The ride is sooo comfortable, BUT it tends to wallow through high speed corners, pitches a bit under braking (which is a good thing really because it loads the front tyres) and slow turn in has responded well to s set of Michelin XM2's.

The same effect on motorcycle forks can be achieved by leaving an air gap at the top of the forks when filling with oil. Simple physics there - air is compressible, fluid is not. So the inital compression of the air mimics a variable rate spring. The one area forks fall down is setting preload.

When selecting springs a general rule of thumb is the fatter the wire which makes the coil the more comfortable the ride but the more damping required to keep them under control. (Wire diameter). As to various maufacturers, I can't say. Racetech  (http://racetech.com/page/title/ST1300%20Fork%20Modification) will probably end up getting my money.

Gold valves for sure.  ;)

When I eventually get to the rear shock I will be getting a custom body made 5 to 6mm longer to get more weight over my front end.
Hope that helps a bit with your choice.
Cheers
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on October 04, 2011, 09:23:28 PM
Shinko Verges have been on for 5000kms now, amazing what a single trip up to Eungella and back will do.  As you would expect quite a bit of straight road riding.  Total cost was $260 landed in Australia for a pair in ST13 sizes (120/70 front, 170/60 rear).

The tyres have a stiff carcass and you can feel the road a lot more - on rougher roads this is a bit of a downside, but feedback is good in more sporting situations.

Grip - as much as you would want in the dry, and I unexpectedly tested them in torrential downpours and damp conditions, including in very heavy winds.  Tyres never put a foot wrong the whole 5000kms - Avons are the only other tyres I can say the same.  The tyres don't look like they would be great in the wet, as they look more like slicks with some tread, but they work very well.  Also quite ok in the dirt (thanks Qld roadworks!)

The tyres make the ST11 feel quite responsive to input, very eager to go over through corners.  This could be a good or bad thing, just depends on preferences. With a load on the bike can tend to want to fall into corners quite quickly.  Even with the middle worn more than the sides, still feels smooth for turn in.

Wear - after 5000kms a bit of wear in the middle but not overly so.  I expected far more wear but it does not seem like that much.  A bit of normal riding should round them off a bit.

Overall - I am surprised as I expected there to be some compromises with these tyres.  Performance in the wet just really surprised me - overtaking cars in passing lanes in the pouring rain around an 80kph corner doing 100kph with no problems is not something cheap tyres should be able to do with ease and confidence.  Downside is that they are on the sporting side with stiff carcass and harsher road feel - a bit more give and comfort would be good.

Originally I got these tyres because the saving over the normal brands paid for some tyre changing equipment.  I am now thinking should I just stick with them rather than go the PR2s or the like.  Once I see what ultimate tyre life and performance over the the whole life is like I will see.  If I get to 13,000kms or more, which is the most I have gotten out of tyres on the ST11, the decision will be interesting.  Other ST11 owners I know of have barely gotten this out of PR2s.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Big Barney on October 25, 2011, 08:13:03 AM
I ran Dunlop Roadsmarts on my Deauville, transformed the handling and roadholding. When I got the ST1300 last Nov  put a Roadsmart on the front. Just done 20,000K, still a bit of life in it yet, maybe 2-3000! Roadsmart on the rear has done 6000k, No obvious signs of wear yet, Carcass still nice and round with no cupping or flat centre. IMHO fantastic tyre, quiet & easy to trust. Don't know why others don't use them more!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on October 25, 2011, 07:24:47 PM
 :cuss
Currently running Avon Storm2 Ultra's on my 1100. Never again, rear delaminated after 5,000k. It is being replaced prorata under warranty. I took it back on the 4th and apparantly the replacement has finally arrived in Perth today. :fp

They know I have no other transport and could not ride the bike with the tyre as it was. The after sales service from Avon is appalling to say the least.  :phone Every time I rang the distributors I was fed a load of crap, if they would even talk to me!

No answer to my E-Mail to head office either :well
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Gavo on October 25, 2011, 07:47:45 PM
PR3 on the rear and a PR2 on the front only because a PR3 wasnt available for the front at the time .
Maybee get them o/s next time but trick is getting them fitted after
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Malcolm6112 on October 26, 2011, 12:22:44 AM
PR2 and PR3 on my 1300. Like them lots. They worked well with all the rain I en counted on last Saturday.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: rendog on October 26, 2011, 08:55:59 AM
I'm just about to clock up 20,000km's on a set of PR2's.  :thumb
The rear is flat spotted, cupped & noisy, but still has tread left on it.
The front is just starting to cup and has some tread left on it.
These km's were 80% two up and fully loaded on the highways of FNQ.
Gotta love these Michelins  :-++
Two more trips to work & back (about 2000 kms) and I reckon both will be replaced.
More to the point I feel another wet season coming on.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on October 31, 2011, 07:28:23 PM
The noise is due to the irregular pattern on the normal road contact part of the tyre similar to the noise made by a chunky 4x4 tyre
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on October 31, 2011, 07:41:10 PM
I could not have put it better.  The leading and trailing edges of the tread on the tyres wear differently the older they get.  Dual compund tyres like the PR2s also tend to wear a bit strangely with the harder middle standing out compared to the softer sides.  I have had the sides of the tyres wear down well before the centre, which is more common for me, just depends on the riding you do.  Excessive cupping in the early life of a tyre usually means either too low a tyre pressure for the riding you do, or the suspension settings are a bit soft so the tyre has do do more of the work in relating to the road.  Fitting tyres not rated for the weight of the bike will also cause problems as the tyres will just flex and wear oddly.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on October 31, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
We know stuff we does. Some of it even answers the original question :popcorn :popcorn
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Couch on November 07, 2011, 03:41:19 PM
Currently Dunlop Sportmax..........I can only say I've found them excellent. I did have a problem with the original front tyre which wore out on the left hand edge. I had 10,750kls up on the tyre but Dunlop came to the party because of the uneven wear and provided me with a new tyre for $70.00. I currently now have 6750kls on the replacement tyre and it's still looking good. I'm in the process of changing my rear tyre at the moment after 17,450kls. I probably should have changed it sooner but I certainly got the most out of it.
I'm waiting on a new rear Dunlop to arrive from Jake Wilson in the States, but I'm also waiting on a new set of Michelin pilot road 2s to arrive for future use. Althought I've found the Dunlops great in all kinds of weather I'm keen to try the Michelins because of many Forum members recommending them. Freight cost to bring 1 tyre out from the States was going to be $55.00 whereas freight cost for the 3 tyres is only $85.00, which brings the cost per unit down even more!! 

Total cost for the 3 tyres including freight was $497.97
 :wht13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: JuST Peter on November 07, 2011, 04:38:25 PM
The  :blu13 is about to get new shoes (PR2's) either today or tomorrow, depending on how busy the bike shop is.
At the moment it has Shinko front & rear, and with the odd tail slide now and then they certainly don't instil confidence when running the twisties, plus the fact I'd never heard of them prior to getting the STeed 5 months ago, which, to me, indicates they aren't in the top 5 or so brands.

I had two sets of Michies on the Hornet and loved 'em to bits. They wore well (18000+), and hung on like Tarzan's Grip.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mark on November 11, 2011, 07:28:16 PM
 :law
Well I still have the tyres that were on from the Police auction (I assume)  :wht11

Front and rear both Metzeler Roadtec Z6
Front: 110/80 ZR18 M/C (58W)
Rear:  160/70 ZR17 M/C (73W)

I am fairly happy with them, but haven't have another to compare with on this bike.

On my previous Yamaha, I picked it up with Dunlops on front and rear, and felt that it was not sure footed, even slippy on corners with the Dunlops (don't recall which model tyre it was). When I went to replace both, I went to Bike Tyre City near Perth, and the guy suggested Metzeler's and said they will wear fast, but really grip well. I went with that suggestion and never looked back. So I may well stick with Metzeler when the time comes to replace these  :whistle.

I really want something with a good grip, and not bothered if they need to be replaced more often, my skin and bones are worth more to me, don't fancy getting red arse road rash  :spank for a couple of bucks saving.

So any suggestions which are really the best for holding on to the ground, is a good suggestion. But there appears to be negaitives for the good ones too..  >:()

From the experts so far it is:
Avon Storm Ultra 2s (Though the delamination at 6,000k's is a scary)
Bridgestone BT023s

Though  :think1, being the chicken that I am  :crackup, I will most likely just get the recommended Metzeler set at the time  :thumb, but if they suggest other than Z6 Roadtec, I will replace both at the same time for the matching grip.   |-i
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on November 11, 2011, 07:34:51 PM
Mark,

I have the Z6s, I rekon if the Plods usem and seeing how they ride the bikes (Bloody Hoons the lot of em), then they are good enough for me. Besides its hard to get tyres in the right size for the front and I want the speedo to be accurate
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on November 11, 2011, 09:36:53 PM
Surprised you found the Shinkos to be slippery, Peter.  I thought they were supposed to be sticky and short lived.

I'd include Continental Road Attacks in the discussion.  I found them to be a good ride, but sold that bike after only putting a couple of thou on them.

I have had a good run from Metzeller Z6s on the 1100 and 1300, so can recommend them.

Walking along the line-up at the FarRide in Eungella I could see a high proportion of PR2 and 3.  Those guys know their gear, so I'd have to give Michelins a tick.

Haven't heard many good things said about Bridgestones or Dunlops, but both have their fans.

When it's all said (and done), I'd have to agree I'd prefer reliable grip to longevity of distance.  And I'd have to say none of Z6s, Road Attacks or PRs have let go on me.  Then I don't push them in the wet- too big a sook to want to know how far they go before they let go!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Malcolm6112 on November 11, 2011, 11:52:11 PM
Quote
When it's all said (and done), I'd have to agree I'd prefer reliable grip to longevity of distance.  And I'd have to say none of Z6s, Road Attacks or PRs have let go on me.  Then I don't push them in the wet- too big a sook to want to know how far they go before they let go!

I would have to agree whole heartedly with that comment Biggles
 :blu13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: bobSTer on November 13, 2011, 03:11:02 PM
On reading all the comments relating to tyres - it appears - as with life - we all have our own preferences.

My ST1100 has been shod with - (in no particulatr order) - Bridgestone Battleax - Dunlop Sportmax - Michelin Pilot Road -
Metzler Roadtec Z6  - currently - F & R Avon Storm Ultra 2.

In all honesty - after 7,000 kms - I have to say these are the best of the lot - ride, turn in, grip, wear, road noise
and general handling - wet weather - brilliant - as with dry.

No scuffs - cupping - head shake or or or

I run 40psi front & 44 psi rear - no flat spots etc.

Without hesitation - I will fit them again.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on November 19, 2011, 11:31:24 AM
Í'm currently running the newer BT-23 from Bridgestone after running Metzler Roadtec Z6 for three sets in two years. Before that I ran BT-21 but had two rear tyre failures (1 puncture & 1 blowout) so went to Metzler.
What the bike had on it when I bought I can't remember but were replaced with Dunlop D205 which by far has been the best tyres I've had. They were discontinued so had to be replaced with Sportmax giving me considerably less k's per tyre.

The D205 gave around 18,000 kms on rear tyre and over 20000 on front. The BT 23 I'm running now needs replacing after only 11000kms in four months, similar mileage to the Metzler and BT-21 and nowhere near the claimed 30 percent more mileage.

I've all ways ran 36psi/42psi as stated on the bike........120/70 front..........160/70 rear

The tyres available for this bike seem to be aimed solely at the sport rider and not the touring side of this bike.






Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Poppy Dave on November 19, 2011, 12:51:42 PM
Mark,

I have the Z6s, I rekon if the Plods usem and seeing how they ride the bikes (Bloody Hoons the lot of em), then they are good enough for me. Besides its hard to get tyres in the right size for the front and I want the speedo to be accurate

Being one of those "Hoons", I am very impressed with the Z6's. So-much-so that I run them myself. Good all-weather tyre.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: scarp on November 28, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
I'm still running the original Brigestones at 9,000kms they are just about stuffed that's been a lot of 2 up touring sometimes with the trailer & now I have no idea what tyres to run next
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: StinkyPete on February 22, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
I've been running PR2's on my 1300 and getting 12 - 14,000km  per set.     I have a 16,000km trip coming up soon, and want to know if there is a hard wearing tyre that will do the whole distance.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on February 22, 2012, 05:29:22 PM
Shink Verges in ST13 sizes have now gone 13,000kms.  A few more kms and they get my record for tyre life.  I will have to chnage them before the Ozstoc National meet I suspect, unless I do little riding...
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on February 22, 2012, 07:01:23 PM
The BT 23 I'm running now needs replacing after only 11000kms in four months, similar mileage to the Metzler and BT-21 and nowhere near the claimed 30 percent more mileage.

I've all ways ran 36psi/42psi as stated on the bike........120/70 front..........160/70 rear

I put my second Rear BT 23 trye on after doing just under 12000kms on 23/12/2011.

The front has about a 1000k's left on it's first BT23 giving it 15,000kms which I will do in March. Needs to replaced B4 going to Blackheath.
Estimate for front tyre from states is $AUD160 to my door.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: scarp on February 22, 2012, 08:16:48 PM
So who fits your tyre? I havn't fitted any for 20 years ::)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on February 22, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
So who fits your tyre? I havn't fitted any for 20 years ::)

My local Tyrepower does it free of charge if I take wheel down. They do most of the farm dirt bikes around here so my ST is something different for them otherwise it's a 100km ride to nearest Honda dealer and $20 to fit and balance.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: StinkyPete on February 22, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
So who fits your tyre? I havn't fitted any for 20 years ::)

You must have got some pretty impressive kilometers out of your last set.........   :crackup
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: scarp on February 22, 2012, 11:31:09 PM
 >:( Maybe I just buy a new bike when the tyres wear out  :thumb
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: IanB on February 23, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Surprised that the esteemed Diesel hasn't bought into this one.
A very careful man with his tyre pressures he was up well over 20,000km on PR2's.
My last set did well over 20,000kms and I'm sure that it was following his example of 42psi front and back that helped get there.
Somewhere on the site his words of wisdom are written.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: StinkyPete on February 23, 2012, 09:43:58 AM
I also run 42 and 42 in mine, but I do know that touring with two-up can take quite a bit from the life of the rubber.   20,000km is a remarkable effort.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on February 23, 2012, 11:43:18 AM
Voting is open again, have at it Guys (n Girls)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: IanB on February 23, 2012, 11:45:34 AM
Where can I buy some tyrs called  others - they seem to be popular with 25%of the vote.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: royst1100 on February 23, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
useto use battle axes but got flatspots (ridge) i had to throw the bike over and lift back up at around 10thou but plenty of tread left but wasted (used 2sets )
now i use metziler lasertec and have had no real probs. still 10 or so thou kliks but used all legal tread (also on second set now)
both brand were 2 rear to 1 front
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on February 23, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
I have some PR2s in the garage ready to fit up sometime.  A few ACT riders on ST11s have tried them, and nowhere near 20,000kms, more like 13,000kms.  Could be that Qld roads are less abrasive, as that can make quite a difference.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on February 23, 2012, 07:32:45 PM
Just changed my vote, couldnt get Metzlers in my sizes. No have BT023s
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Shaun on February 23, 2012, 07:58:55 PM
Metzelers on mine.

Seems to suit the hoon in me so far.

Cheers, Shaun
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: scarp on February 23, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
Will need a new set after this weekend so I'll have to work it out then
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2012, 10:11:08 PM
Currently have a Metzeler Z6 rear and a Pirelli front.  Both tyres are in decent condition so I won't be changing them any time soon.  I like to try different tyres but since there are only 2 or 3 types available for the 1100 I won't have that many to try!

Gonna go for the BT023's next just because they are cheapest.  I don't really like Bridgestones but I'll give them a go.

Then I'm gonna try the Avons.  I used the Storm 2 Ultra on the rear of my FireBlade and found it to be a good tyre.  I got through 3 of them and used it up until I sold the bike.

Then I might try the Z6 again, apparently they are available again.  Tried one of these on the back of my Blade too and it was alright, but didn't last as long as the Pirelli Diablo Strada so I only used one of them.  I'll see how it goes with the one I have fitted currently.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: gerd on February 24, 2012, 09:45:57 AM
Metzeler for me.

 :dred11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Shiney on April 02, 2012, 01:12:55 PM
I just put a PR3 on the rear of my :blu13
Only done 1000 km, so far it has been great :thumb

Ill advise how good they are and give a detailed report when I get some decent kms on it :hatwave

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mitch on April 02, 2012, 02:01:10 PM
  Replaced PR3 tyres on the ST for the trip.    :beer
      Put a new set of PR3,s on because I was more than happy with them, hang on really well and seem to be wearing well.  :thumb
  I measured the tread depth on the new rear as close to centre as I could  6mm, I measured the tyre I took off (approx 7500Klm)at the same place 4mm.  The reason I replaced them is I wasn't sure they would make the trip over and back, they probably would of.
     Attached is a photo of the tyre I took off, there is a slight flattening on the centre line, still not too bad for a tyre with 7500Klm on it. :grin
                                            :blk13 
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Aj1300 on April 02, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
Surprised you found the Shinkos to be slippery, Peter.  I thought they were supposed to be sticky and short lived.

I'd include Continental Road Attacks in the discussion.  I found them to be a good ride, but sold that bike after only putting a couple of thou on them.

I have had a good run from Metzeller Z6s on the 1100 and 1300, so can recommend them.

Walking along the line-up at the FarRide in Eungella I could see a high proportion of PR2 and 3.  Those guys know their gear, so I'd have to give Michelins a tick.
Hi Biggles, did you like the Conti road Attacks for the time you had the bike? I have Battleaxe   And not that impressed bad cupping after 8 k's ,I want a tyre that grips well in the corners,
Cheers Aj :blk13
Haven't heard many good things said about Bridgestones or Dunlops, but both have their fans.

When it's all said (and done), I'd have to agree I'd prefer reliable grip to longevity of distance.  And I'd have to say none of Z6s, Road Attacks or PRs have let go on me.  Then I don't push them in the wet- too big a sook to want to know how far they go before they let go!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on April 02, 2012, 05:58:51 PM
Hi Biggles, did you like the Conti road Attacks for the time you had the bike? I have Battleaxe   And not that impressed bad cupping after 8 k's ,I want a tyre that grips well in the corners,

Yep, I did like the Conti Road Attackss but when I went to get them for Ruby they were out of stock, so I got PR2s.  Happy with them, but I haven't pushed them in the wet.  They feel planted in the dry.  Haven't heard many good reports of Battleax.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Bikebear on June 05, 2012, 05:41:14 PM
My BT023s seem to work well for me. The rear has done around 10000 give or take and looks like it has a few thou left however I'll be putting a new one on before the Southern Cross run in September, mainly because it will be around 3500kms with a trailer. I only put new front on recently and I'm very happy with the handling (most of our rides involve up/down mountain ranges). I run 42psi rear and haven't had any bad cupping I run 38psi front.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on June 05, 2012, 06:06:27 PM
The BT 23 I'm running now needs replacing after only 11000kms in four months, similar mileage to the Metzler and BT-21 and nowhere near the claimed 30 percent more mileage.

I've all ways ran 36psi/42psi as stated on the bike........120/70 front..........160/70 rear

I put my second Rear BT 23 trye on after doing just under 12000kms on 23/12/2011.


So far I've done 7600kms on the second rear BT-023 since xmas 2011 and it looks half warn so might do another 4000kms on. I replaced the front in March after doing just under 12,000kms so on mine the mileage is about the same both front and rear.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on June 05, 2012, 09:29:26 PM
My set of Shinko Verges are about done after the Lightning Ridge FarRide.  They are 120/70 front and 170/60 rear. Grip and handling still fine, but a slight speed deceleration wobble has appeared for the first time ever.  I have worn these tyres right down (but still with tread!) as they have been very consistent over their life.  17,000kms so far which is at least 4000kms better than anything else I have tried.  For $220 the set from the US and fitted myself, not too bad.  The bike is cheaper to run than the car once tyre cost go down.

So of course a different set of tyres is going on next - my $50 clearance BT021 Bridgestone in 110/80 and a Shinko Raven in 170/60.  All up cost $130.  I know the BT021 did not get great reviews, but it will do what I want.  They shoulf get me to a decent pie shop and back at least...
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on June 06, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
  They shoulf get me to a decent pie shop and back at least...

So long as there are no corners   :rofl
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on June 06, 2012, 12:10:12 PM
I'm sticking with PR2 front and PR3 rear. (Maybe a 3 on the front if availability allows).

I have gotten around 25,000km out of 2 consecutive sets with NO REGARD to 'protecting my tyre life' whilst riding, but a METICULOUS approach to consistent tyre pressures.

No need to change as I find their handling better than what I have thrown at them so far - i.e. they stick like sh*t to a blanket!         :eek       :grin

Low noise and good wet weather confidence - Now I sound like an ADVERT!

This has been MY experience.

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: royst1100 on June 06, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
just replaced rear tyre with metzeler Z6 roadtec as no lasertecs in country yet but still 2 weeks away (has been 2 weeks for some time now). they told me my lasertec front would be fine
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Poppy Dave on June 06, 2012, 08:32:15 PM
Metzeler for me too. Both front and back put on 12,000 k's ago and still ok. Handle great. Very happy with them.


Dave                                                             :wht13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on June 06, 2012, 08:38:27 PM
I'm sticking with PR2 front and PR3 rear. (Maybe a 3 on the front if availability allows).

I have gotten around 25,000km out of 2 consecutive sets with NO REGARD to 'protecting my tyre life' whilst riding, but a METICULOUS approach to consistent tyre pressures.

No need to change as I find their handling better than what I have thrown at them so far - i.e. they stick like sh*t to a blanket!         :eek       :grin

Low noise and good wet weather confidence - Now I sound like an ADVERT!

This has been MY experience.

Cheers, Diesel

I have some PR2s ready to go after the next set.  They had better be good as the Shinkos have been near the best I have used wet or dry, regardless of price.  I should have mentioned that they are a harder tyre so don't ride as plushly as some
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Gavo on June 06, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
PR3 on the rear and a PR2 on the front only because a PR3 wasnt available for the front at the time .
Maybee get them o/s next time but trick is getting them fitted after


And now got a set of PR3z waiting to go on after i wear out the set on the bike.

Could be a while yet

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on June 17, 2012, 03:55:52 PM
Put a new set of tyres on in the last few days.  BT021 front in standard size (110/80-18) and Shink Raven (170/60-17) rear.  The pair cost $140.  The BT021 full price was arounf the $200 mark so for $50 on cleance was ok :0 The Raven matches the pattern reasonably well so that is why I went for it. As usually, new tyres feel great.  As the BT021 is superceded, and the raven only available from overseas, and update may not be of any use to anyone, but they will be at the NSW RTE and perhaps the Border run if they last.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
Just fitted a pair of 023's in standard 1100 sizes.  The front went on easy but the rear was a bit of a bugger, seems like the side walls are pretty stiff.

Interesting to see the difference in height between a (new) 160/70/17 and a (worn) 170/60/17 - looks like roughly 3.5cm.  If you add 1cm due to wear on the 170 tyre, that's still about 2.5cm.  I'll be interested to see how these tyre sizes affect handling - but I can say the bike is noticeably easier to get on to the centre stand!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on June 20, 2012, 10:09:18 PM
Just fitted a pair of 023's in standard 1100 sizes.  The front went on easy but the rear was a bit of a bugger, seems like the side walls are pretty stiff.

Interesting to see the difference in height between a (new) 160/70/17 and a (worn) 170/60/17 - looks like roughly 3.5cm.  If you add 1cm due to wear on the 170 tyre, that's still about 2.5cm.  I'll be interested to see how these tyre sizes affect handling - but I can say the bike is noticeably easier to get on to the centre stand!

Should cut your RPM for a given speed, but not affect the accuracy of your speedo, assuming those figures are for the rear only.
As for getting STs on their centre-stand, don't get me started!  Even Goldwings are easier!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2012, 10:30:32 PM

Should cut your RPM for a given speed, but not affect the accuracy of your speedo, assuming those figures are for the rear only.
As for getting STs on their centre-stand, don't get me started!  Even Goldwings are easier!

Yeah it will drop the revs, didn't think about that.  Won't affect the speedo (unless we're being pedantic!) as that's driven by the front wheel and that had a 110/80/18 on before.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on June 20, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
Front wheel tyre size???

I had a dealer in WA swear black and blue that the standard tyre for my bike was a 110/80 and the only way I could convince him was showing him the tyre info on the frame that it was 120/70. Guess he hadn't seen to many A models.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Whizz on July 02, 2012, 03:13:44 PM
I've just put a BT021 on the front and a BT023 0n the back, the old ones were just about knackered!.

Question, guru's:- The bloke in the tyre place told me that he thought 42psi was a bit hard for these and recommended 38psi in the front and 40psi in the back, saying that they would go up by 4psi when warm and he thought 46psi was over the top. I pointed out that Honda say 42psi front and back, but what is your opinion???

Cheers
Whizz
 :13Candy
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on July 02, 2012, 03:34:05 PM

I have to order another set of BT23 in August from jake wilson as the rear is almost due.

After that I want to try Avons and I hope the deal is still available when I need them. About $400 delivered

http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/AVON-STORM-2-ULTRA-TIRE-COMBO (http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/AVON-STORM-2-ULTRA-TIRE-COMBO)

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: tj189 on July 02, 2012, 05:23:04 PM
just replaced rear tyre with metzeler Z6 roadtec as no lasertecs in country yet but still 2 weeks away (has been 2 weeks for some time now). they told me my lasertec front would be fine
so you are running a cross ply tyre with a radial tyre and you have been told they will be ok, not sure I would agree with that mixture
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: tj189 on July 02, 2012, 05:25:58 PM
I've just put a BT021 on the front and a BT023 0n the back, the old ones were just about knackered!.

Question, guru's:- The bloke in the tyre place told me that he thought 42psi was a bit hard for these and recommended 38psi in the front and 40psi in the back, saying that they would go up by 4psi when warm and he thought 46psi was over the top. I pointed out that Honda say 42psi front and back, but what is your opinion???

Cheers
Whizz
 :13Candy
I got told the opposite a couple of tyre changes ago....run a couple more psi in both.  I still run what Honda says and I thought that was 36 front  and 42 rear for the 1100?
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Whizz on July 02, 2012, 05:48:25 PM
Scary when 'experts' tell people directly opposite things...I can only assume that the manufacturer of the bike knows best, and go with the pressures they recommend.

Cheers
Whizz
 :13Candy
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on July 03, 2012, 08:42:21 AM
Scary when 'experts' tell people directly opposite things...I can only assume that the manufacturer of the bike TYRE knows best, and go with the pressures they recommend.


Well I have just crossed through the 26,000th km on my front PR2 and got 24,000km from the rear PR3 by putting 42psi front and 44psi rear with the suspension preload and rebound set fairly high (stiff). I don't reckon I'll be listening too hard to someone who tells me to change this set up.     |-i

I have NEVER ridden to try and CONSERVE tyres or petrol either.

Did I mention I regularly scrape footpegs and boots too? (Handling must be OK on this set up).       :thumbs

Keep in mind though - these are NOT the tyres the factory chooses to shoe her with - so you should really talk to the tyre manufacturer of the brand you are running and ask their recommendations for THIS tyre on THIS bike in THESE climate conditions.

OR...................

Be like good ol TerryDJ and just ride the damn thing as he has done successfully for decades without worrying too much on the hypocritical 'devil in the detail'     :thumb

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Down Under on July 05, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
I've just put a BT021 on the front and a BT023 0n the back, the old ones were just about knackered!.

Question, guru's:- The bloke in the tyre place told me that he thought 42psi was a bit hard for these and recommended 38psi in the front and 40psi in the back, saying that they would go up by 4psi when warm and he thought 46psi was over the top. I pointed out that Honda say 42psi front and back, but what is your opinion???

Cheers
Whizz
 :13Candy

It think it depends on what sort of riding you do and what type of roads you travel on.  I don't think you'll have any safety issues with the tyre by deviating 4 PSI from Honda recommended tyre pressures.  Personally, I find the recommended pressures too hard for anything except very good road surfaces.  When riding solo, after much experimenting I find that 38 PSI/front and 40 PSI/rear gives me a much more comfortable and planted ride on our crappy regional roads.  When 2 up, 40 PSI/front and 42 PSI/rear. No doubt it's accelerating tyre wear but I've never been obsessed with getting a million miles out of a set of tyres.....I just want to enjoy my ride!

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Gadget on August 17, 2012, 10:22:19 PM
My 2 cents worth.

When I bought the ST1300 last December it had an oversize Bridgestone on the front and a Shinko on the rear.  Two weeks later in the wet, the Shinko totally lost grip  :cuss and then high-sided me down the Gateway motorway.   :||||  I wasn't pushing hard and wasn't making any sudden changes in direction.  Speed was somewhere between 80 and 85 km/h.   

Needless to say,  :think1 as I ride every week day to and from work all weather, I went looking for tyres with good wet grip.  A work colleague who has at least 17 bikes and races on weekends for fun on track days, recommeded Michelin PR3's as he had put them on his Hyabusa after a set of Shinkos, (which he took off after only 5 laps at Willowbank, because he couldn't get the 'busa to turn in).   He showed me the pair that had 5,000 km from a trip from QLD the the Vic Alps (two-up) and back again with hardly any signs of wear.

After putting them on, I am so impressed I can see my putting anything else on unless they stop making them.  The grip is so much better and the handling is vastly improved.   :thumbsup

I've also noticed a very nice dry line behind bikes fitted with the PR3's, which instills confidence they are doing their job. 

I certainly hope I get at least half the life out of mine that Diesel gets, but I'm primarily interested grip in both Wet and Dry conditions.

I've had them on now for about 4,000 km and can barely see any wear on them at all.  Love 'em!! 

With inflation that 2 cents is probably up to 4 now.

Cheers,
Gadget.

 :blu13left
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Poppy Dave on August 18, 2012, 06:48:36 PM
I voted OTHER as I had Metzlers on at the time.

When I got the bike it had Bridgestone BT 20's on it and I liked them, got near on 18,000 out of them.

I then put Metzler Z6 ? on and got close to 14,000 but the bike started to get a bit loose on the back end recently so I thought I'd go back to the Bridgestones, BT23's this time. (Quoted $480 fitted and balanced).

Been reading some posts about tyres over the past few weeks and due to really good recommendations I've just put on a pair of Michelin PR3's. Cost $535 fitted and balanced from Tyres for Bikes in Victoria Park.

The guy who fitted them said that he's had some great feed-back about them lasting longer and behaving themselves on the road both wet and dry, I'll wait and see.

Take care all and lets hope that whatever tyres you're using, they do their job well,

Dave

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on August 18, 2012, 08:53:45 PM

Been reading some posts about tyres over the past few weeks and due to really good recommendations I've just put on a pair of Michelin PR3's. Cost $535 fitted and balanced from Tyres for Bikes in Victoria Park.

The guy who fitted them said that he's had some great feed-back about them lasting longer and behaving themselves on the road both wet and dry, I'll wait and see.

Take care all and lets hope that whatever tyres you're using, they do their job well,

Dave

Don't want to break you heart, but I put a pair of PR3s on a week ago- $435  fitted.  I believe Diesel managed to get the same for $400 from the same dealer.

Maybe the freight to WA adds $100!

But then Perth is closer to Spain where they're made than Brissie.

Apart from that, I'm also loving the PR3s.  The bike just drops straight into any turn I ask for.  They're supposed to be road-safe straight away without needing to scrub off the mould release agent.  I didn't test that aspect.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on August 18, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
Been reading some posts about tyres over the past few weeks and due to really good recommendations I've just put on a pair of Michelin PR3's. Cost $535 fitted and balanced from Tyres for Bikes in Victoria Park.

The guy who fitted them said that he's had some great feed-back about them lasting longer and behaving themselves on the road both wet and dry, I'll wait and see.


You'll love 'em Dave and I'd be very surprised to hear different. The extra $$$ you paid will be well made up anyways.

We'd love to hear your impressions of them.

I am about to change to my new front PR3 at the end of this month. I put (the PR2) on at 62,000km (documented) and when I rode into my garage today after a beer with Tipsy - I've got 90,485km on the clock - ON THE SAME TYRE!!!!       :eek

It's tired now and needs replacing - but it has had a long and distinguished career. It will retire with honours! I will post a pic of it tomorrow.

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Malcolm6112 on August 19, 2012, 11:45:47 PM
I've done over 10K on a PR2/PR3 combo. Both front and rear hardly show any wear.

Mantastic tyres.

 :blu13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Nh478m on August 22, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
After getting this newer bike still shod with original type Bridgestones, I'll never go back to any others. The Avons I used to run were horribly noisy and the front didn't feel at all well planted with more than 39/40 psi in and then it was always twitchy.

I'm finding the 020s to be quiet, firm and solidly planted.

PJ

PJ
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Maverick75 on August 23, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
6k on a front PR3 with minimal wear so far and great grip (and I'm hard on tyres, ride a fair bit of dirt too). Just put an Avon Storm Ultra 2 on the back and feels good, will see how that wears. (ST11)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on August 23, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
From my experience the Storm 2 should be good for 13.000kms plus on the rear. The original storm did not last as long as the Azzaro it replaced.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Maverick75 on August 23, 2012, 12:08:50 PM
These mileages were unheard of when I had my old ST. I was flat out getting 7k out of the BT020s. Amazing that tyre technology could come that far in 7 years.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Tipsy on August 23, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
 :wht11 py
 Well I am running PR3's both front and rear on the 1100 and man do they hang on. but in reality as long as they are round /black & sticky to road then its dont matter.... :nahnah :crackup :rofl
but is a serious thing  :law
Tipsy ....
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: tj189 on August 23, 2012, 08:30:27 PM
just added the Avon Storm 2 to the bike, with a big ride coming up it will be a good test for them (and me)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dennisgw on September 25, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
Just fitted a pair of 023's in standard 1100 sizes.  The front went on easy but the rear was a bit of a bugger, seems like the side walls are pretty stiff.

Interesting to see the difference in height between a (new) 160/70/17 and a (worn) 170/60/17 - looks like roughly 3.5cm.  If you add 1cm due to wear on the 170 tyre, that's still about 2.5cm.  I'll be interested to see how these tyre sizes affect handling - but I can say the bike is noticeably easier to get on to the centre stand!

Should cut your RPM for a given speed, but not affect the accuracy of your speedo, assuming those figures are for the rear only.
As for getting STs on their centre-stand, don't get me started!  Even Goldwings are easier!

Come on Biggles, even a short arse like me can do it!!     :crackup
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on September 25, 2012, 03:21:08 PM
Re centre stand, don't try to lift the bike, put all your weight down on the centrestand handle and it will roll back onto the stand. I never use the folding side handle, just the passenger grab rail.

 :bl11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sabie on September 25, 2012, 03:30:04 PM
Pirelli Angels on the front and a battaxe 23 on the rear. When worn I'll change the rear to a Pirelli Angel. So far I'm impressed with the ride and handling of the Pirelli.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on November 03, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
New PR3 just fitted at Tyres for Bikes (Vic Park)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Poppy Dave on November 03, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Good choise Brock, I'm sure you'll be as pleased as I am with mine. :runyay




Dave                                        :wht13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Turtle on November 03, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Hey Brock what size pr3 did you put on the St1100 was it a rear ?
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on November 03, 2012, 07:00:19 PM
170/60 ZR 17, what else?????

 :well :well
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on November 14, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
Had Dunlop Roadsmart 2 fitted today (front and rear) at just over $400 fitted. Got 13,254km out of last Roadsmart rear and happy with its performance (centre still usable but no tread left on sides after Dorrigo ride). Will be interested to see if the '2' wears and better.


 :bl11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dennisgw on November 16, 2012, 08:55:35 AM
Tried the Metzeler Z8 rear/Z6 front combination only to have issues with the bike.
Yesteday we tried fitting a replacement Z8 on the rear with a slight improvement. Now back to a Bridgestone 023 on the rear and Voila!, the bike is back to what one would expect an ST to be like.
End result, Metzeler Z6 front and Bridgestone 023 on the rear.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on November 16, 2012, 09:19:59 AM
Tried the Metzeler Z8 rear/Z6 front combination only to have issues with the bike.
Yesteday we tried fitting a replacement Z8 on the rear with a slight improvement. Now back to a Bridgestone 023 on the rear and Voila!, the bike is back to what one would expect an ST to be like.
End result, Metzeler Z6 front and Bridgestone 023 on the rear.

The Met Z8 (could have been the Z6 though) got a pretty decent upgrade around 14 months ago and went from a tyre much like you have described here, to a real beaut - apparently.

I wonder if you received one of the earlier generation ones Dennis, as punters are giving glowing reports these days for the new Z8?

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on November 16, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
I voted OTHER as I had Metzlers on at the time.

When I got the bike it had Bridgestone BT 20's on it and I liked them, got near on 18,000 out of them.

I then put Metzler Z6 ? on and got close to 14,000 but the bike started to get a bit loose on the back end recently so I thought I'd go back to the Bridgestones, BT23's this time. (Quoted $480 fitted and balanced).

Been reading some posts about tyres over the past few weeks and due to really good recommendations I've just put on a pair of Michelin PR3's. Cost $535 fitted and balanced from Tyres for Bikes in Victoria Park.

The guy who fitted them said that he's had some great feed-back about them lasting longer and behaving themselves on the road both wet and dry, I'll wait and see.

Take care all and lets hope that whatever tyres you're using, they do their job well,

Dave



Any updates for us Dave?

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dennisgw on November 16, 2012, 01:23:27 PM

The Met Z8 (could have been the Z6 though) got a pretty decent upgrade around 14 months ago and went from a tyre much like you have described here, to a real beaut - apparently.

I wonder if you received one of the earlier generation ones Dennis, as punters are giving glowing reports these days for the new Z8?

Cheers, Diesel

Never know Diesel, YoungOne also had the same problem and I believe that his was solved with another Z8. The replacement Z8 on mine reduced the effect, though did not fix it entirely.
Pity though, I really liked riding on the Metzeler if I could stay above 100kmh.

For now I will stay with the combination I have. This is the first time I have strayed from Bridgestone, across 2 ST1100s and 3 Blackbirds, so maybe there is a message there somewhere.

Cheers
Dennis
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Streak on November 16, 2012, 01:43:32 PM

The Met Z8 (could have been the Z6 though) got a pretty decent upgrade around 14 months ago and went from a tyre much like you have described here, to a real beaut - apparently.

I wonder if you received one of the earlier generation ones Dennis, as punters are giving glowing reports these days for the new Z8?

Cheers, Diesel

Never know Diesel, YoungOne also had the same problem and I believe that his was solved with another Z8. The replacement Z8 on mine reduced the effect, though did not fix it entirely.
Pity though, I really liked riding on the Metzeler if I could stay above 100kmh.

For now I will stay with the combination I have. This is the first time I have strayed from Bridgestone, across 2 ST1100s and 3 Blackbirds, so maybe there is a message there somewhere.

Cheers
Dennis

i have read countless stories about tyres that do this and that...every tyre place i talk to about the ST1100, they say Bridgestone, what do i run, bridgestone, and well i have never had a problem  :thumb

As i knock on wood, i will say that i am happy running what is recommended.


Cheers

Graham
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dennisgw on November 16, 2012, 01:52:14 PM
Quote
i have read countless stories about tyres that do this and that...every tyre place i talk to about the ST1100, they say Bridgestone, what do i run, bridgestone, and well i have never had a problem  :thumb

As i knock on wood, i will say that i am happy running what is recommended.


Cheers

Graham

Why didn't you tell me that before I bought the Metzelers Streak??
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on November 16, 2012, 02:20:46 PM
Why didn't you tell me that before I bought the Metzelers Streak??

You won't regret the Metzellers.  They're a quality tyre that perform well.

Young One's problems turned out to be a rear wheel bearing that failed because the tyre fitter over-torqued the rear axle.

On that subject, I wonder if it was out of spite, because Tony especially asked them to be sure to tighten the axle after the same tyre fitter failed to tighten mine a few years ago.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on November 16, 2012, 02:29:36 PM
I used the Z6s and found them quite good through the life of the tyre. Overseas, those who then used the Z8 were very impressed (zealot like even!)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dennisgw on November 16, 2012, 03:08:50 PM
You won't regret the Metzellers.  They're a quality tyre that perform well.

Young One's problems turned out to be a rear wheel bearing that failed because the tyre fitter over-torqued the rear axle.

On that subject, I wonder if it was out of spite, because Tony especially asked them to be sure to tighten the axle after the same tyre fitter failed to tighten mine a few years ago.

Sounds a bit funny that YoungOne's symptoms were the same as mine and mine was definately the tyre and I ended up using the same guys to sort mine out yesterday. From my experience, I found that the tyre fitters were inclined to under torque the axle nut rather than over-tighten it.

I was also of the understanding that YoungOne's problems went away when a new tyre was fitted?? His old one is still at the shop concerned.

On first inspection, after fitting the Z8, we found that the inner drive flange bearings on mine had collapsed. Are you sure it was a wheel bearing rather than the drive flange bearings? Just a question as I was also told I had bad wheel bearings. The inner drive flange has two narrow ball bearings that are open to contamination.

I would imagine it is a long shot, and a long bow to draw, to point the 'finger of spite' at the tyre fitters. Most of them would tighten the axle nuts up to two clicks of the elbow I would imagine. The problem being the calibration of the elbow and how many wheaties they had for breakfast. Hence a good reason to have a good torque wrench and check things like axle nuts, brake caliper mounting bolts and clamp bolts after someone else has played with them. I once came across a guy on the Putty Road, Singleton end, with his from calipers swaying in the breeze and only one bolt left in them. His bike had just been serviced in Windsor.

Cheers
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on November 16, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
We'll have to wait for Young One to come back in and comment.  I saw the bearings last weekend and I believed them to be wheel bearings.  The symptoms only appeared immediately after the tyre change, and finally went away with new bearings after many trouble-shooting efforts.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: youngSTer on November 16, 2012, 06:09:42 PM
I replaced the Bridgestone battlax's, these had 24,000 on them when replaced, for Metzeler Z6 front and Z8 rear.
Had extreme vibration up through seat from the rear tyre, when wheel taken off and placed on static balance the weight of excess rubber caused tyre to fall straight to bottom regardless of where it was let go. Bought a replacement Z8 (the old one is having a claim negotiated) this one has no balance issues and vibration has all but disappeared. Think what vibration that is left is due to tread pattern.
Also discovered that the large rear wheel bearing had lost dust seal and the ball bearing cage had all but come apart, the smaller bearing had a cracked case in 2 places.
I purchased my St with 12,000 ks and have covered 20,000 since then.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dennisgw on December 08, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
Tried the Metzeler Z8 rear/Z6 front combination only to have issues with the bike.
Yesteday we tried fitting a replacement Z8 on the rear with a slight improvement. Now back to a Bridgestone 023 on the rear and Voila!, the bike is back to what one would expect an ST to be like.
End result, Metzeler Z6 front and Bridgestone 023 on the rear.
Had some uneasy feeling on the bike at times with the BT-023(R)/Z6(F) combination so had the Z6 replaced today with a BT-023. End result, now back to Bridgestone with BT-023 on front and rear. Goodbye to the German &*^%&^%!!!!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: BigTed on January 09, 2013, 10:22:04 AM
Yesterday, I had a PR3 put on the front with a right-angle valve stem.... and  100m down the road I had a knob-head turn across my path at the traffic lights - a puckering moment on new front rubber.

The old tyre thrown in the bin (original BT020) had just reached it's wear bars - at 24,500 km (and the rear original BT020 still has a couple 1000 left) - very happy with that. I'm told the PR3 will last longer... time will tell.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: OzRider on January 10, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
My rear Mitcy PR3 had approx 16,500 k's on it took it for one last run last week before I fitted a new one outside temp was showing 42/43 took her out through Litchfield (only corners up here well 140k corners) stopped further down the road for a feed came out did the usual bike check and noticed the whole right side had delaminated with two sections competely gone. Different ride home at 80 instead of the ride down at ????k's on occasions. :whistle :whistle

Had the new tyre fitted another PR3 the guy mentioned he sees a lot of them up here with the same delamination problem, will definately be keeping a close eye on this one.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on May 09, 2013, 12:39:00 PM
My set of Shinko Verges are about done after the Lightning Ridge FarRide.  They are 120/70 front and 170/60 rear. Grip and handling still fine, but a slight speed deceleration wobble has appeared for the first time ever.  I have worn these tyres right down (but still with tread!) as they have been very consistent over their life.  17,000kms so far which is at least 4000kms better than anything else I have tried.  For $220 the set from the US and fitted myself, not too bad.  The bike is cheaper to run than the car once tyre cost go down.


For price these look pretty good at the moment $253 delivered.

How did they perform in the wet?  Tread pattern looks more suited for a dry road than a wet one. If the're ok I'll order in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on May 09, 2013, 01:48:14 PM
As good as anything else I have used, which surprised me.  I have used them in heavy rain and all conditions in between to dry. They are a slightly harder riding tyre than say the PR2s I have on at the moment, but I only noticed it when I changed tyres to the PR2s.

PR2s have lasted around 14,000kms and the front is due for a change, so both will be changed.  Can't really fault then in any conditions, cost is thier only downside.

My set of Shinko Verges are about done after the Lightning Ridge FarRide.  They are 120/70 front and 170/60 rear. Grip and handling still fine, but a slight speed deceleration wobble has appeared for the first time ever.  I have worn these tyres right down (but still with tread!) as they have been very consistent over their life.  17,000kms so far which is at least 4000kms better than anything else I have tried.  For $220 the set from the US and fitted myself, not too bad.  The bike is cheaper to run than the car once tyre cost go down.


For price these look pretty good at the moment $253 delivered.

How did they perform in the wet?  Tread pattern looks more suited for a dry road than a wet one. If the're ok I'll order in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sabie on May 09, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
I'm running Michelin PR2s front and rear. I had them fit at Tyres for Bikes on the Sunshine Coast on the way home from Middleton.

Not as gripy as the Pirelli ST Angels, I loved them...

So I may go back to the Pirelli's , I know i wont get as many K's out of them but they felt more secure.

Go down just once and any extra K's you'd get on the michelins is wiped out.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on May 22, 2013, 11:44:43 AM
Just reshod the St13 with PR3s.  Got 23,000 out of the last pair.  The rear was well past its prime.  $440 fitted in Brendale.
Did rear brake pads at the same time.  Got 30,000 out of the Metal Gear pads.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on May 22, 2013, 12:05:14 PM
Pilot Road 2s now replaced with the same again (110/80-18 front, 170/60-17 rear).  Got 17,600 out of the pair, but they were down to the wear bars and starting the handle a bit strangely in the corners due to the wear patterns - the front just did not match the back any more.  The rear still had some centre tread left but the sides were cactus. I used dynabeads for balancing, but have nothing to judge against until I put on some tyres I have used before with weights.

 Front and rear brake pads will be due in the next 10,000kms.  The fronts were put on when I replaced the front rotors, all metal gear.  Rotors are in great condition after 83,000kms, pads have lasted the same distance so I think I will go for more of the same.  Sintered pads I have used before lead to premature rotor wear (replaced at 100,000kms), and lasted only 20,000kms or so.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on May 22, 2013, 12:38:25 PM


 Front and rear brake pads will be due in the next 10,000kms.  The fronts were put on when I replaced the front rotors, all metal gear.  Rotors are in great condition after 83,000kms, pads have lasted the same distance so I think I will go for more of the same.  Sintered pads I have used before lead to premature rotor wear (replaced at 100,000kms), and lasted only 20,000kms or so.

I still have the original rotors on mine. After 152,000kms there is no visible signs of wear. Apart from one cheap set of pads I have used OEM pads. Now on third set of pads since new.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Pocket STocker on May 22, 2013, 04:50:19 PM
So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on May 22, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
You can get tyres in various colours in fact (but I have heard they are not that good).   :CB--

So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on May 22, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn

This is fulfilling my worst expectations.   :||||
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sabie on May 22, 2013, 07:04:50 PM
So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn

Where does it say its for boys only????
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Pocket STocker on May 22, 2013, 08:01:56 PM
So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn

This is fulfilling my worst expectations.   :||||

I caught one, I caught one  :grin  :grin Can some one take him of the hook and put some more bait on please  :nahnah

Sorry Biggles  :p

Jean
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sabie on May 22, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn

This is fulfilling my worst expectations.   :||||

I caught one, I caught one  :grin  :grin Can some one take him of the hook and put some more bait on please  :nahnah

Sorry Biggles  :p

Jean

Or alternatively we could try and drag Biggles into the 21st Century..... Kicking and screaming I'd say....  :Whipped:Whipped
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sabie on May 22, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
Sorry Biggles, couldn't resist a jibe at ya for that... |-i
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on May 22, 2013, 08:57:00 PM
So although this is a boys thread I should give a ladies/pillions view on the tyres on our bike, their BLACK but I would like some in a soft burgundy to match my new hair colour. :grin

Sorry boys, I will go now  :popcorn

This is fulfilling my worst expectations.   :||||

I caught one, I caught one  :grin  :grin Can some one take him of the hook and put some more bait on please  :nahnah

Sorry Biggles  :p

Jean

Looks like I should have created a "tongue-in-cheek" emoticon.   Maybe just this one then,  :p
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Rodd on August 17, 2013, 11:38:52 AM
Ready for my next rear tyre. The Avon Storm 2 Ultra is now smooth on the sides!.. My neighbouring bike shop only has a Dunlop Road Smart in stock!! :(
Jake Wilson doesn't advertise any tyres to suit the ST rear (ABS) of 160/70 17.. Would like the Michelin to match the front tyre now.

Any suggestions?

 :blk11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on August 17, 2013, 12:18:40 PM
A 170/60 rear is the next best option (ST13 rear tyre size). They are bit more available.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 17, 2013, 12:20:57 PM
Ready for my next rear tyre. The Avon Storm 2 Ultra is now smooth on the sides!.. My neighbouring bike shop only has a Dunlop Road Smart in stock!! :(
Jake Wilson doesn't advertise any tyres to suit the ST rear (ABS) of 160/70 17.. Would like the Michelin to match the front tyre now.

Any suggestions?

 :blk11

The only ones JW have for the 1100 are the Bridgestone 23s. with the GT front and the standard rear. They sell fairly quickly and mine had to go on back order. I ordered the GT spec in 1300 sizes (170/60 rear) which I have yet to put on. My front is already on and have only done 800 kms on it.

If you want the Michelin just order the 1300 size and you should be ok. A few 1100 riders on here don't have issue running them.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on August 17, 2013, 12:36:05 PM
I would have to look up the last time I used a 160/70 on the rear.  I do prefer the 110/80 on the front (non-abs bikes) if possible as it steers and wears better, but not that much in it over a 120/70 front.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on August 17, 2013, 12:43:57 PM
My neighbouring bike shop only has a Dunlop Road Smart in stock!! :(


Nothing wrong with the Road Smart 11. Have done nearly 10,000Km on mine and about half gone. Bike feels good on them and no problems in wet. Do feather on edges when just about gone and make a humming noise on corners. I'm happy with them and would buy them again. Cost me 2/3rds of Michilen.

 :bl11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 27, 2013, 04:31:02 PM
As of Friday 29th I will have Bridgestone BT-23 in GT spec on both wheels as the rear will be getting changed over after doing 9870 kms.

The rear will be a 1300 spec tyre (170/60) as the GT isn't available in 1100 sizes. Imported from Jake Wilson as I haven't seen them out here yet.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Hendo on August 27, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
Allans 1100, can you please let me know how old the tyre is as i have been hearing that some of the tyres sent by jake wilson are getting old. The one i got last month was over 18 months old and was a B!#$h to fit. Had to use tyre warmers to get in on the rim.

BTW Friday is the 30th.

Cheers
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 27, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Allans 1100, can you please let me know how old the tyre is as i have been hearing that some of the tyres sent by jake wilson are getting old. The one i got last month was over 18 months old and was a B!#$h to fit. Had to use tyre warmers to get in on the rim.

BTW Friday is the 30th.

Cheers

I've checked the new tyre and the old one and I can't see a year of production on it.

My front was on back order so order wasn't sent until that was in. This the second set of Bridgestones from Jake and no problems so far with mine.

As for the date.......my mind was on a ride to Port Augusta on Friday and the tyre is getting fitted on the 29th so a bit of a mix up there  :||||
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Rodd on August 27, 2013, 07:14:40 PM
I fitted my Bridgestone 23's myself and the rear tyre was a real struggle to fit. I read on the US forum that others had found the same thing with the Bridgestone BT023. The trick was to make sure that the rim edges of the tyre were close together and in the deepest dished part of the rim while fitting and to use heaps of slippery.. I used silicone spray at the time.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on August 27, 2013, 07:24:16 PM
I use a tyre paste, and plenty of it. The tyres that fit the STs are a really tight fit, which is good to know when you are riding.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 27, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
Mine are fitted by a car tyre dealer on their machine and I don't think they've had problems fitting mine. If they have, they've not said anything.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: kappy5003 on August 27, 2013, 10:47:50 PM
I went to my local Tyre supplier the other to remove the poorly worn Metzler Z6 front tyre--- 120/70 18.

Poor wear possibly from some under inflation and as dealer claims road camber Mmmmm.

Anyway he recommends T30 for front and in same breath poo pooed the 021 and also started to say the BT 023 was an under achiever until I pointed out he was the one that recommended the 021 in the 1st place, in fact BT021 is still on rear.

I didn't know about the 2 front tyre sizes until I double checked my super duper manual, seems to say 120/70 is for later model ABS.

I really can't remember the size when I got her although being ex Police was running a metz.

He  also pointed out the new metz is experiencing some issues.

I like the propaganda on the new T30 especially that Valentino likes it. 

So should I be running a 110/80 on the front????
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on August 27, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
I prefer to run a 110/80 on the front if I can get them, but most times I have run 120/70 fronts with no problems as 110s are less available.  I had a BT021 on the front, and it was probably the worst tyre I have ever run.  Wore out in less than 5000kms and did not feel that great.  BT023 seems to be much better, but I have not used them myself.  Metzler Z8s get good reports, but again I have not used them myself (I used the Z6s and they were ok).  Haven't heard about a T30..what brand is that?

I went to my local Tyre supplier the other to remove the poorly worn Metzler Z6 front tyre--- 120/70 18.

Poor wear possibly from some under inflation and as dealer claims road camber Mmmmm.

Anyway he recommends T30 for front and in same breath poo pooed the 021 and also started to say the BT 023 was an under achiever until I pointed out he was the one that recommended the 021 in the 1st place, in fact BT021 is still on rear.

I didn't know about the 2 front tyre sizes until I double checked my super duper manual, seems to say 120/70 is for later model ABS.

I really can't remember the size when I got her although being ex Police was running a metz.

He  also pointed out the new metz is experiencing some issues.

I like the propaganda on the new T30 especially that Valentino likes it. 

So should I be running a 110/80 on the front????
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 27, 2013, 11:18:17 PM


So should I be running a 110/80 on the front????


The wheels are the same size and both tyres will fit. Your tyre info requirement should be under the seat. Fitting the 120/70 tyre might effect you speedo as well.

The 1100A has the ZR tyre because of the weight rating on the tyre as it's 10kg heavier due to ABS components.

http://www.pan-europe.utvinternet.ie/owners_manual/specifications.htm (http://www.pan-europe.utvinternet.ie/owners_manual/specifications.htm)

Front   110/80-18 58V (DUNLOP, BRIDGESTONE, METZELER)

Front CBS/ABS/TCS Model   120/70 ZR18 (59W) (DUNLOP, BRIDGESTONE)

Rear   160/70-17 73V (DUNLOP, BRIDGESTONE) 160/70 B17 73V (METZELER)

Rear CBS/ABS/TCS Model   160/70 ZR17 (73W) (DUNLOP, BRIDGESTONE)

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 28, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
Allans 1100, can you please let me know how old the tyre is as i have been hearing that some of the tyres sent by jake wilson are getting old. The one i got last month was over 18 months old and was a B!#$h to fit. Had to use tyre warmers to get in on the rim.


Cheers

I went looking this morning for how the date info is put on the tyre. The picture shows my last front tyre and in the middle "VEA 2111" is stamped into the LH tyre (when on bike). Not sure what the letters mean as they are different on the tyres I have here. The numbers show the week and year of production. In this case the tyre was made in May 2011.

In answer to you question the Bridestone tyres I got from Jack Wilson in July 2013 were made in March 2013 (1113) for the rear and February 2013 (0613) for the front.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4242/35599148102_f0bc7cee6d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WeLWty)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: kappy5003 on August 28, 2013, 07:58:22 PM
I prefer to run a 110/80 on the front if I can get them, but most times I have run 120/70 fronts with no problems as 110s are less available.  I had a BT021 on the front, and it was probably the worst tyre I have ever run.  Wore out in less than 5000kms and did not feel that great.  BT023 seems to be much better, but I have not used them myself.  Metzler Z8s get good reports, but again I have not used them myself (I used the Z6s and they were ok).  Haven't heard about a T30..what brand is that?

saaz
The T 30 is a Bridgestone Battlax, supposedly designed for touring, they will replace the BT023 some good reports on the T30 there is a Youtube of Rossi putting them through there paces. He likes the feel of them.
I had a BT 021 before the Metz yes horrible.
When I replace the current Metz I push for a 110, I didn't even realise they had put on a 120   :cuss that's one for the ego.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: kappy5003 on August 29, 2013, 02:38:47 PM
170/60 ZR 17, what else?????

 :well :well

Brock can you explain why 170/60 on rear, when standard is 160/70 what are benefits etc if you don't mind.

BTW I got a discounted price from Vic Park on T30 of $200, Just rang Bike City, no hint of discount quote $175 go figrue. :think1
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on August 29, 2013, 04:19:07 PM
170/60 ZR 17, what else?????

 :well :well


Brock can you explain why 170/60 on rear, when standard is 160/70 what are benefits etc if you don't mind.




I'm sure Brock can confirm this but the 160/70zr17 tyre isn't available for the tyres he fitted.

The only other option is to go to 160/60zr17 which a lot of dealers will fit if there is no OEM 1100 tyre available. Problem with that size is the load index (weight rating) of 69 is way below the 1100's load index of 73.

The 170/60 tyre has an index of 72 making it a better option if no OEM 1100 tyre is available.

Load index ratings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#Load_index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#Load_index)

The highlight ones are for the three tyre sizes I mentioned


Standard Load Table (extract from ETRTO Standards Manual – 2010 page G7 - ref 42 psi (290 kPa))[14]
Code   Weight      Code   Weight      Code   Weight      Code   Weight
60   250 kg (550 lb)      80   450 kg (990 lb)      100   800 kg (1,800 lb)      120   1,400 kg (3,100 lb)
61   257 kg (570 lb)      81   462 kg (1,020 lb)      101   825 kg (1,820 lb)      121   1,450 kg (3,200 lb)
62   265 kg (580 lb)      82   475 kg (1,050 lb)      102   850 kg (1,900 lb)      122   1,500 kg (3,300 lb)
63   272 kg (600 lb)      83   487 kg (1,070 lb)      103   875 kg (1,930 lb)      123   1,550 kg (3,400 lb)
64   280 kg (620 lb)      84   500 kg (1,100 lb)      104   900 kg (2,000 lb)      124   1,600 kg (3,500 lb)
65   290 kg (640 lb)      85   515 kg (1,140 lb)      105   925 kg (2,040 lb)      125   1,650 kg (3,600 lb)
66   300 kg (660 lb)      86   530 kg (1,200 lb)      106   950 kg (2,100 lb)         
67   307 kg (680 lb)      87   545 kg (1,200 lb)      107   975 kg (2,150 lb)         
68   315 kg (690 lb)      88   560 kg (1,200 lb)      108   1,000 kg (2,200 lb)         
69   325 kg (720 lb)      89   580 kg (1,300 lb)      109   1,030 kg (2,300 lb)         
70   335 kg (740 lb)      90   600 kg (1,300 lb)      110   1,060 kg (2,300 lb)         
71   345 kg (760 lb)      91   615 kg (1,360 lb)      111   1,090 kg (2,400 lb)         
72   355 kg (780 lb)      92   630 kg (1,400 lb)      112   1,120 kg (2,500 lb)         
73   365 kg (800 lb)      93   650 kg (1,400 lb)      113   1,150 kg (2,500 lb)         
74   375 kg (830 lb)      94   670 kg (1,500 lb)      114   1,180 kg (2,600 lb)         
75   387 kg (850 lb)      95   690 kg (1,500 lb)      115   1,215 kg (2,680 lb)         
76   400 kg (880 lb)      96   710 kg (1,600 lb)      116   1,250 kg (2,800 lb)         
77   412 kg (910 lb)      97   730 kg (1,600 lb)      117   1,285 kg (2,830 lb)         
78   425 kg (940 lb)      98   750 kg (1,700 lb)      118   1,320 kg (2,900 lb)         
79   437 kg (960 lb)      99   775 kg (1,710 lb)      119   1,360 kg (3,000 lb)         
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on August 29, 2013, 05:07:31 PM
The 170/60 is a safer bet as it in ST1300 size.  The 160/70 is also used by the BMW LT1200 and some Harley models, so the weight rating should be ok for use on the ST1100.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on August 29, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Quote
Brock can you explain why 170/60 on rear, when standard is 160/70 what are benefits etc

No real benefit, its the only tyre available in PR3 for the 1100. As Allan said..

The revs are slightly higher for a given speed
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: kappy5003 on August 30, 2013, 06:22:53 AM
Thanks, I was starting to think guys were going for a slightly wider and lower profile tyre, are bike tyres read the same as car tyres.

I think I'll give the T30 a go and the same on the rear when that's due. The from  and rear seem to be available in the correct size.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Rodd on August 30, 2013, 08:59:13 AM
The Shinko Verge rear tyre that I ordered from the U.S. late Monday has arrive this morning!! Impressive!

By 12:45 the tyre is on and pumped up to pressure. I couldn't use my home made tyre fitting gismo because I have relocated the vice (use to hold the gismo while the tyre is being fitted) and it's now too high, so I fitted the tyre on the floor. One side went on by hand!! The other side eventually went on using the handle gismo..
There is no way in the world I would have been able to fit the Bridgestone BT023s this way as the rear Bridgy was an extremely tight fit.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on September 03, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
It is amazing that, with enough lubrication, the first bead goes on so easily.  The trick is to not skimp on whatever lubrication you are using.  I am in the middle of doing both tyres with Shinkos. Back done, front next, then a few other minor maintenance things.  make sure you grease up those rear splines, as I have seen wear on ones that were done properly by some shops.

The Shinko Verge rear tyre that I ordered from the U.S. late Monday has arrive this morning!! Impressive!

By 12:45 the tyre is on and pumped up to pressure. I couldn't use my home made tyre fitting gismo because I have relocated the vice (use to hold the gismo while the tyre is being fitted) and it's now too high, so I fitted the tyre on the floor. One side went on by hand!! The other side eventually went on using the handle gismo..
There is no way in the world I would have been able to fit the Bridgestone BT023s this way as the rear Bridgy was an extremely tight fit.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Rodd on September 03, 2013, 02:54:40 PM
Splines looked pretty good and I put plenty of graphite grease in there. I only used silicone spray. Next tyre I will replace all the o-rings, bearings and the rubber bits in the hub. There's some freeplay there and it explains the slight notchiness from go to whoa. I got the dynabeads yesterday (can't understand why they done tape them up inside the tyre and save delivery costs!). Had to use my compressor to blow the beads thru my 90 degree valve stem. Went for a 80k or so ride today and I'm impressed with the Verges. As you said John, they may be firm but they also tracked really well and I felt quite confident in the corners with them. If I am as happy in the wet as in the dry then I might order a few at a time next time (depending on  how well they wear for my riding style tho). I still would like to try on the Michie PR2s or 3s, but I am happy for the tyre for the price so far!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on September 03, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
(can't understand why they done tape them up inside the tyre and save delivery costs!).

Nothing to save as the shipping charge is based on dollar value not weight. Not sure how many beads I ordered but I had enough for two tyre changes.



Had to use my compressor to blow the beads thru my 90 degree valve stem.


It's hard enough on a normal valve stem. I must be getting good at it as the 4th tyre (last rear) took quicker than the last front one.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on September 03, 2013, 05:49:35 PM
Verges are better than the price indicates.  Overall at east as good as the PR2s for me mileage and grip wise in all conditions. Could not go wrong with PR2s as well.  But as you say, every rider feels things differently so that is why I only provide my impressions relative to other tyres I have used.

Splines looked pretty good and I put plenty of graphite grease in there. I only used silicone spray. Next tyre I will replace all the o-rings, bearings and the rubber bits in the hub. There's some freeplay there and it explains the slight notchiness from go to whoa. I got the dynabeads yesterday (can't understand why they done tape them up inside the tyre and save delivery costs!). Had to use my compressor to blow the beads thru my 90 degree valve stem. Went for a 80k or so ride today and I'm impressed with the Verges. As you said John, they may be firm but they also tracked really well and I felt quite confident in the corners with them. If I am as happy in the wet as in the dry then I might order a few at a time next time (depending on  how well they wear for my riding style tho). I still would like to try on the Michie PR2s or 3s, but I am happy for the tyre for the price so far!
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: royst1100 on September 22, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
just put perelli angels on (i was put on the spot and had to use a smaller Tyre. 150 instead of a 160) heard good reports but bit worried about smaller size. put same on front soon
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Bikebear on September 22, 2013, 07:35:30 PM
Spoke to the tyre guy at my usual shop yesterday and he will get some T30 Bridgies in for me. If they are as good as Bridgestones advertising claims they should be awesome. (And they come in the right size) :thumb
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: JC on September 23, 2013, 01:30:47 PM
.......... Currently running Pirrelli  Angels - very impressed - first ride was 3 days, (2000k) in pouring rain on the way to last year's GP. Now have 8000k on them and looking good for 12,000k. Distance wore the front tyre into a V with the Bridgestones, haven't got that indication with the Pirelli's yet. I think they will be my choice again next time - confidence in a tyre is half the solution.

 :think1

Has anyone started using the Pirelli Angel GT tyres, yet?
I've still got the original BT020 tyres on the ST13.

In more recent years, I have used Michelin Pilot Road, Metzeler Interact Z6 and Z8 and presently Bridgestone BT023 on my CBR1000F, but none of the rears (170/60 or 180/55) seem to make more than about 8,000km, as a lot of the riding was done towing a Classic Ultralite trailer and/or carrying a pillion. I'm starting to think that there is a direct correlation between the width of the "chicken strips" and the distance between tyre replacements, so it is hard to decipher which tyres will actually last longer for any particular rider.

I guess that I'll just have to keep watching this space, until my ST13 runs out of tread, then roll some dice.

 :blk13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: basadia on October 16, 2013, 10:35:42 AM
I started out with the stock Exedra bias ply tyres but they stopped making them. I then changed to the Bridgestone BT021, same story they went out of manufacture.
I am now running the stock BT023 on the rear and 130/70 18 Exedra Max on the front,  I know the front is bigger than factory but it seems to work for me. The BT023 on the front wore out to quickly but the BT023 works well on the rear.
I get my tyres shipped from Mick Brace in Queensland and fit them myself. I find the amount of time it takes to get the wheels off and take them to a shop I can do it myself, I do get some marks on the rims from my tyre levers but it is much quicker and cheaper.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Rodd on October 19, 2013, 03:30:17 PM
I have to say that after changing from the 160/70 17 to the 170/60 17 rear tyre that I have noticed little difference. My bike doesn't sit noticeably more upright on the side-stand, I have little problem getting it on the centre stand and I can barely detect any change in gearing. I should add that there probably wasn't much difference in diameter going from the worn old tyre to the new tyre. The Verge tyre has perfromed very well so far. Nor problems in the wet or dry, and better still (for me) no scuffing and no uneven wear.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on October 30, 2013, 11:42:39 AM

I am about to change to my new front PR3 at the end of this month. I put (the PR2) on at 62,000km (documented) and when I rode into my garage today after a beer with Tipsy - I've got 90,485km on the clock - ON THE SAME TYRE!!!!       :eek

It's tired now and needs replacing - but it has had a long and distinguished career. It will retire with honours! I will post a pic of it tomorrow.

Cheers, Diesel

Just checked the odo again for this current PR3 - on at 90,400km - Current: 118,000+   = 27,600km SAME TYRE!!!    (due for replacement in next 2-3,000) - Guess what tyre I'm putting back on!

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on October 30, 2013, 12:31:15 PM
(due for replacement in next 2-3,000) - Guess what tyre I'm putting back on!


Ummm.   The same one hoping to squeeze another 1000 klicks out of it?
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: ppopeye on April 17, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Picked up Ruby today with brand spankin Bridgestone T30 GT"s. Wow. She wants to turn corners now. What a difference. (Old ones were too old and hard)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: HunterTodd on April 17, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
I am a thousand kays into a set of Michelin PR3

The bike came with Pirelli Angel ST's which managed around 14k to 15k.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on April 17, 2014, 06:21:36 PM
PR3s will get double the milage
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on April 17, 2014, 06:29:43 PM
Angel STs don't get the best distance. You may well get at least 50% better and up to 100% better.

I am a thousand kays into a set of Michelin PR3

The bike came with Pirelli Angel ST's which managed around 14k to 15k.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: mmccarthy on April 17, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
 :blu13 I  just put a pair of Michelin PR4 on after running 2 sets of PR2. First set did 17000 kms, second set 19000 kms. The back tyres had little or no tread on the sides but some tread left in the middle. Riding in Tassie probably does that. I ride about 70% of the time two up. The front tyres have both had maybe 30%- 40% tread left, but I've always replaced both tyres at the same time. I will be going for a big ride soon so will put about 19000kms on the PR4's by September, if they make it. Should be interesting, I will report how they go.


Mic
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: youngSTer on April 18, 2014, 07:57:27 AM
Hi, I was running Pirelli Angel GT's on my ST 1300 before I traded it and at that stage they had 18,000 ks up with at least another 30% still to go before needing replacement.
These were the best tyres that I had fitted as they give absolute superior wet weather performance as well as mileage.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: HunterTodd on April 18, 2014, 09:44:58 AM
The thing surprised me about the Angel ST was how quickly they went off. They were quite ok with plenty of tread untill the last 1000 kays or so and then they just pooped themselves. Completely flogged out in one trip.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Bluey on April 18, 2014, 10:50:55 AM
I've just had a pair of BS T30's fitted to my '99 ST1100A. Have ridden a couple of hundred k's so far. So far, great. Very difficult comparing because the old tyres (BT203's) were well worn with the usual feathering and squaring of the tread.

More to come when they are "broken in".
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Turtle on April 18, 2014, 12:08:17 PM
Hey Bluey what did you pay for the T30's ?

Turtle
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Bluey on April 18, 2014, 01:39:47 PM
Paid $455 fitted and balanced - Gold Coast Motorcycle Tyres - great people to deal with.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Turtle on April 18, 2014, 02:11:07 PM
Thanks mate for that now just need your and others feedback on the T30 before I commit to a set or go the PR4's

Turtle
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on April 18, 2014, 02:38:56 PM
Are they the normal T30s or the GT version?
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: ppopeye on April 18, 2014, 03:44:02 PM
Paid $455 fitted and balanced - Gold Coast Motorcycle Tyres - great people to deal with.

I paid $475 fitted and balanced for T30 GT's
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STroppy on April 18, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
After Ballarat, I rode to Adelaide and needed a new rear tyre, I ended up with a Bridgestone T30 GT. On the long way back to Canberra it rained on the Sunday and our plans changed from taking the twistyest roads to not so twisty . . . Although we did go the Elliot Way . . . Anyways a few times in the rain and on a fairly wet road and travelling reasonably fast, but no faster then say on the Dunlop Roadsmart 2's I had just shed, the back slipped suddenly a number of times.  I am sure the Dunlops would not have done so, I have had Continentals, Bridgestones, Michelins, Dunlop, Pirelli and Shinko and have to say never a problem wit h them riding in the wet, but the T30 GT has me a bit wary of puching it in the wet. . . .
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Bluey on April 18, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
Are they the normal T30s or the GT version?

Not the GT's

I rode down the Mt Lindsey Hwy yesterday (and then home through Kyogle) on the new tyres and there is a stretch a few K's north of the border where they have been recently laying "road snakes" - where they squirt bitumen into cracks in the road. In some places there is more of the snake than the original road (or so it appears at cruising altitude) and I noticed the rear end, and to a lesser extent the front, twitching on the slippery bitumen (I should say straight tar, no crushed rock - too lazy to edit....). I put it down to a slippery surface and new tyres. Time will tell. I'll ride through there again soon and see if I still get the same behavior.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Tokhi on April 18, 2014, 09:27:14 PM
That's not good to hear that about the T30 GTs. I was told they were going to be the ducks nuts.
I was hoping to replace mine with them soonish.
Will wait to hear more reports.
Thanks to Bluey & STroppy for the updates.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: ST2UP on April 18, 2014, 09:39:16 PM
How do you get a GT tyre to give long mileage.....make it hard. How do you get it to grip....make it soft.

It's a curse having a bike you can ride both ways  ;-*



 :beer
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on April 18, 2014, 09:46:07 PM
That's not good to hear that about the T30 GTs. I was told they were going to be the ducks nuts.

No- that's the Michelin PRs you're thinking of.     :grin
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Turtle on April 18, 2014, 11:27:01 PM
Might put the Shinko's on over the t30 :popcorn might be better that the T30's after some reviews on them from overseas not great on life from them and even softer on the edges than the old 023's

Turtle
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Gadget on April 19, 2014, 07:02:12 AM
A Shonko (Shinko) on the rear of mine let go in a massive (High side dismount) way on me in the wet on a mild corner at only 80 km/h.  The PR3's take that same corner at 100+ in the wet and not a twitch.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on April 19, 2014, 04:34:40 PM
I
have used a number of sets of the Shinto verges as has Lionel. No problems with wet grip and great life
A Shonko (Shinko) on the rear of mine let go in a massive (High side dismount) way on me in the wet on a mild corner at only 80 km/h.  The PR3's take that same corner at 100+ in the wet and not a twitch.


Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on April 22, 2014, 11:52:15 PM
Currently running BT 23 in GT spec which I bought from the states.

The front has done 7800 kms and hardly any wear compared to the standard BT 23 front

The rear has done 6500 kms and looks about half worn and no apparent difference in wear compared to a standard BT 23 rear

So it looks like two rears to one front at the moment. And that's running the 1300 rear as the GT spec wasn't available in the 1100 size.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: gibbo57 on May 14, 2014, 03:13:24 PM
Hi Guys,
   Only had the bike for a few months and it had a mixture on it.   They were already squared off so a new set was in order.   The local bike shop that a mate of mine owns just put on a new set of Bridgestone Battlax T30R Super Touring on her.   But sadly due too a back injury I haven't had the chance to run them in let alone test them out.   Maybe in a month or two I might be able too.   Just to add a few reviews I have put below some links from different forums, ie Ducati and a youtube video on them which is not that great considering the guy is sponsored by Bridgestone.   Might give you some idea on these new tyres.
http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/thread/bridgestone-s20s-or-bridgestone-t30s.14090/ (http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/threads/bridgestone-s20s-or-bridgestone-t30s.14090/)

Valentino Rossi rides the Bridgestone Battlax T30 (LONG VERSION) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxI2CazdgWs#ws)
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/products/productsresults/tyres/2013/may-2013/may2813-bridgestones/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/products/productsresults/tyres/2013/may-2013/may2813-bridgestones/)

The Ron Haslam Bridgestone T30 Review - Donnington Park (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W13WXGsNQOE#ws)
Cheers
Gibbo
 :wht11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: johnnyYTED on May 14, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
 :dred11
Last week I got a PR4 on the rear, I rode down to Woolongong and back to scuff it up and its sticking like   shite on a shovel,,  I'll see how hard wearing it is,,, :-(((
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on May 14, 2014, 08:45:34 PM
Well if Rossi says the Battlaxes are that good, they must have improved from when I last rode them, admittedly about 6 years ago.  Obviously the pressure is on all the manufacturers to keep developing their tyres to be competitive.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dick B "Yewie" on May 15, 2014, 05:01:45 PM
Went to fit a new set of RP3's prior to leaving on our 10,000k loop through Central Australia only to be told no PR3's available for the rear (2 week wait) and Michelin were switching to PR4's in future anyway. I have always been happy with the Michelins but ended up fitting a set of Pirelli Angel GT's after having read good reports about them. Will tell you how they go after we return from Ularu, Alice Springs et al.
Dick and Ros
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mypod on December 17, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Hi Guys,
   Only had the bike for a few months and it had a mixture on it.   They were already squared off so a new set was in order.   The local bike shop that a mate of mine owns just put on a new set of Bridgestone Battlax T30R Super Touring on her.   But sadly due too a back injury I haven't had the chance to run them in let alone test them out.   Maybe in a month or two I might be able too.   Just to add a few reviews I have put below some links from different forums, ie Ducati and a youtube video on them which is not that great considering the guy is sponsored by Bridgestone.   Might give you some idea on these new tyres.
[url]http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/thread/bridgestone-s20s-or-bridgestone-t30s.14090/[/url] ([url]http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/threads/bridgestone-s20s-or-bridgestone-t30s.14090/[/url])

Valentino Rossi rides the Bridgestone Battlax T30 (LONG VERSION) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxI2CazdgWs#ws[/url])
[url]http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/products/productsresults/tyres/2013/may-2013/may2813-bridgestones/[/url] ([url]http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/products/productsresults/tyres/2013/may-2013/may2813-bridgestones/[/url])

The Ron Haslam Bridgestone T30 Review - Donnington Park ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W13WXGsNQOE#ws[/url])
Cheers
Gibbo
 :wht11
I seem to be a bit late getting into this conversation but the last set of tires I put on are the Bridgestone Battlax T30r's. So far have done 15,000km's on them, with at least half those k's done with my lovely wife on the back, and they look as though they will last for another 2 -3,000km's. That's quite a bit more than i got out of the older BT023's. Very happy with them, no scolloping (unlike the '23's). I will be replacing them with the same once the time comes to do so.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on December 17, 2014, 08:29:28 PM

I seem to be a bit late getting into this conversation but the last set of tires I put on are the Bridgestone Battlax T30r's. So far have done 15,000km's on them, with at least half those k's done with my lovely wife on the back, and they look as though they will last for another 2 -3,000km's. That's quite a bit more than i got out of the older BT023's. Very happy with them, no scolloping (unlike the '23's). I will be replacing them with the same once the time comes to do so.

I've had the GT spec (1300 rear) fitted since July and have just done 5000 km on them so far. Hard to tell at this time if they'll do better than the 23 GT spec tyres I had before. Like you, mostly two up riding about 50 percent trailer.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: johnnyYTED on December 18, 2014, 04:23:51 AM
 :dred11
last night I fitted a new PR3 to Strangers front wheel, ST13 120-70-18, today I'm going riding to scuff it up. Sydney City motorcycles $214.95 free fitting.. ++ should laST me a while
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on December 18, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
:dred11
last night I fitted a new PR3 to Strangers front wheel, ST13 120-70-18, today I'm going riding to scuff it up. Sydney City motorcycles $214.95 free fitting.. ++ should laST me a while

The PR3s and 4s are supposed to have the mould release agent removed, and so should be safe to turn and stop normally from new.  Still good to respect them, though.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mypod on December 19, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
yes...especially if it's wet
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: johnnyYTED on December 19, 2014, 02:44:37 PM
 :dred11
I got my wheel back with a STicker saying,
WARNING
New Tyres are
EXTREMELY SLIPPERY
especially in the WET.
Take Care !!

MuST say it felt STicky on my first ride over Razorback into Camden then onto Leumeah and Campbelltown, where I parked on an angle and the fuel in the tank was lower than the pick up point  :fp  :OldMan I had to go buy a Jerry can and 5 ltrs so it would STart.. I dont think my fuel warning light works... :fp
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on December 19, 2014, 09:12:34 PM
I got my wheel back with a STicker saying,
WARNING
New Tyres are
EXTREMELY SLIPPERY
especially in the WET.
Take Care !!

I suspect they have had someone blame them for an accident on new tyres.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: JC on December 19, 2014, 11:40:39 PM
The PR3s and 4s are supposed to have the mould release agent removed, and so should be safe to turn and stop normally from new.  Still good to respect them, though.

I've never seen this in writing from a tyre manufacturer or distributor, so wouldn't rely on an insurance payout from them if you fall off due to new tyres not gripping as well as your old ones used to. Year after year, we hear of blokes on new tyres coming down in the first few days, many in the first few corners.

The surface of new tyres is always extremely smooth and glossy, so grip is never as good as it is after they have been "roaded" for a few kilometres to scuff them and get some texture onto the surface, as well as wear off any remaining release agent.

  :-((( :cuss New tyres are a bit like "hat drivers", you're never quite sure what they're going to do, until they do it. :cuss  :-(((

 :blk13

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on December 20, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
Always best to take it easy for the first few corners until the tyres have gone through a heat cycle or two and you get used to how easily they go into corners. That said, I have not felt really unsafe with new tyres for many years and modern tyres get to effective grip levels even when cold a lot better than they used to. My current set of Angel GTs are worn edge to edge courtesy of South Queensland roads  :hatwave and still look like new. It does wonders not to do a straight run from new that just wears the centre out.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mypod on December 20, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
Wearing the edges out on the tires are the least of our worries over here in the west. Still, the nice flat center helps the bike stay upright, heehee
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: saaz on December 20, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
I have some great second hand tyres for you then  :rofl

Wearing the edges out on the tires are the least of our worries over here in the west. Still, the nice flat center helps the bike stay upright, heehee
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Lionel on December 20, 2014, 12:47:53 PM
I was very happy with Shenkos until June this year when I lost it in the wet and totalled my ST1300.
The same would probably have happened regardless of tyre type.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on December 20, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
I was very happy with Shenkos until June this year when I lost it in the wet and totalled my ST1300.
The same would probably have happened regardless of tyre type.


I dunno.  The sipes on the PRs are very effective at dispersing the water.
But as you imply- if you are moving fast and hit standing water deep enough, you'll aquaplane on any tyre.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Piet on December 26, 2014, 09:15:32 AM
Hi Diesel,
Would you like to add Metzler to the list?
I purchased the bike with Avons front and rear.  Had the rear tyre cut through by I dont know what.  But it left me with the steel cords cut and protruding.  I purchased a Metlzler as a replacement, I like the feel of the Metzler perhaps better than the Avon.  The jury is still out on lifespan.

Regarding the comments on slippry when new.  When the Metzler was fitted up, the Tyre shop used the detergent slop to ease the install.  When I fitted the wheel, drove out the driveway and was turning left onto the highway, all in the space of 10 meters, the bike did a heart stopping fish tail like slide because it was so slippery.  I was glad I did not loose control, but it came out of nowhere.  It was a good lesson for me.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mypod on December 26, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Hi Piet,
The guy who owned my ST1100 before I bought it off him had Metzlers on (they were on the bike when  bought them) and I changed them when they had done about 13,000km's if I remember correctly, they where fairly worn by then.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on December 26, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
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I purchased the bike with Avons front and rear.  Had the rear tyre cut through by I dont know what.  But it left me with the steel cords cut and protruding.  I purchased a Metlzler as a replacement, I like the feel of the Metzler perhaps better than the Avon.  The jury is still out on lifespan.


I've had two sets of Metzeler Z6s hoping they were better than the old Bridgestone 21s but no difference in overall average km at about 10,000 for the rear (12000 for front) for mainly two up riding and 50 percent trailer usage. Even the BT 23's failed in their claimed 30 percent better mileage over the 21s.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: JC on December 29, 2014, 10:33:14 AM
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I purchased the bike with Avons front and rear.  Had the rear tyre cut through by I dont know what.  But it left me with the steel cords cut and protruding.  I purchased a Metlzler as a replacement, I like the feel of the Metzler perhaps better than the Avon.  The jury is still out on lifespan.


I've had two sets of Metzeler Z6s hoping they were better than the old Bridgestone 21s but no difference in overall average km at about 10,000 for the rear (12000 for front) for mainly two up riding and 50 percent trailer usage. Even the BT 23's failed in their claimed 30 percent better mileage over the 21s.

I fitted Z6's to my CBR1000F. Mostly towing my Classic Ultralite trailer with camping gear and two up riding, a rear Z6 lasted about 8,000km, including the BDR to Alice Springs in 2011. I replaced them with Z8's for the BDR to Alice Springs in 2012, but the rear didn't seem to last any longer and the front went out of shape.
 >:()

I am now running the BT023's on the CBR and it has about 5,000kms without much sign of wear.
 :thumbsup

The heavy duty, single compound Exedra radials on the ST13 grip well enough and two up, towing the trailer, the rear will easily make 10,000km, as we rode from Perth to Townsville on the return leg of the BDRAA this year, on the one rear tyre. The front had done 15,000km without any major signs of wear, so may well have made the fabled 30,000km.   
:hatwave

 :blk13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on March 03, 2015, 05:35:42 PM
Just fitted a PR4 GT 170/60 ZR 17 to the rear of my 1100, cant say how well the PR3 lasted, as it seems that I forgot to log it in my spread sheet. Suffice to say it were burgered and had been on about a year.  Oh, from tyres for Bikes Vic Park,  $310.00
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Dick B "Yewie" on March 03, 2015, 06:51:59 PM
Just going back to Michelin Front and Back (PR4's @ $550 fitted at Hawkesbury Honda) after a once only run on Pirelli Angel GT's. Not happy with the 11,000 from the Pirellis even though they still have some life left in them (who wants to wear their tyres right to the edge!)  in spite of the flat spot on the rear courtesy of our 8,800k run up through the Red Centre last year. I am looking forward to a much better run on the PR4's.
 :rd13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: JC on March 03, 2015, 11:13:25 PM
The PR3's on the ST that we bought 2nd hand stick quite well in the wet and dry, so the PR4's should also allow you to wear them to the edges, if you desire.

If you are not into "track day" type riding, then the Bridgestone Exedra radials could well suit you better and last longer than the PR4's.

Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on April 22, 2017, 03:20:20 PM
As of today I have a Dunlop Roadsmart 2 on the front and a Bridgestone T30 Evo on the rear which will be replaced with a Roadsmart 3 in a fortnight's time
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on April 22, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
I had several Roadsmarts on my ST and found them a good all round tyre for the price.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sandman on December 13, 2017, 09:57:50 PM
I'm running PR4 GT 170/60/17. Love them. The only issue I have is I'm not getting the wear that the majority seem to get. I'm looking at just over 5,000 and the RHS is starting run out of rubber.
This is the second set that have worn on the RHS faster that the left. They also have what appears to be an unhealthy amount of feathering.
I have been given all sorts of reasons why it wears more on the RHS, from the camber in the road, I'm harder into the R corners than the L (which I put some credence on this as I do like to power out of the RHers.
I pulled into a servo the other day and a guy said that my suspension was not set up right with that amount of feathering.
I run the rear at 40 and the front at 38 and just me and no gear.
Has anyone got any comments on why it's wearing so fast and the feathering.
Once again thanks in advance. :bl11
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on December 13, 2017, 11:32:42 PM
That's ridiculous.  Mine have always worn evenly, despite all the scuttlebutt about RH bends etc.  At around $500 for a pair, I'd be going broke if mine only gave me those kms.  I expect 25,000.  I'm not careful about acceleration, regularly carry a heavy pillion and run 42/42.
Now that's on an ST1300.  I have run PR2s, 3s and 4s, all with similar results.
When I had an ST1100, I got 11780 from Bridgestone 021s.  I sold it with a pair of Metzeller Z6 hoops that had 5683 km on them and passed the Roadworthy easily, implying they had another 5000 or so left in them.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sandman on December 14, 2017, 12:01:37 AM
Thanks for your gratuitous comments. I didn't expect to be trolled on this site.
For your information Biggles, I purchased the tyres this time last year. Did one fantastic ride from Tweed to The Entrance and back, around 2000 kms. I posted it here as well if you're interested.
I work overseas and I have been in Australia for 22 days this year of which I rode 10 times at an average of 8 at an average of 300kms per ride. I don't do any other riding so I'd say that's about 4800 wouldn't you say. So please keep your rude comments to yourself. I'm being polite here because you have no idea what I'd really like to say.

No shit shirlock, my very point was that I don't want to spend yet another $500 on another tyre only to have the same problem, hence my question.

Anyone got any useful comments on the feathering, the tyre pressure or the suspension setting?
If not I'll just fade away and not bother coming back which is a real shame because I've always found this site a great source of information.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Bodø Glimt on December 14, 2017, 01:40:21 AM
* Sherlock (http://www.footballnews.com.au/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on December 14, 2017, 06:02:34 AM
Sandman, for your own peace of mind I would put the bike on the centre stand and look at the alignment of both wheels, both inline and verticle, and see if any thing looks not right. I would be checking your swingarm bearings too to see if there is any movement in them.
Something is not right to only get that mileage from PR4.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: basadia on December 14, 2017, 06:08:21 AM
I've just upgraded from 01 ST1100 to an 05 ST1300 which had a good rear tyre on it when I picked it up. I'll run the same tyres on the new bike as I ran on the 1100, Exedra on the front and a BT030 on the rear. I'm due for a new tyre on the rear which has 12K on it. I wear the rear faster than the front generally about 1.5 rear tyres to 1 on the front running 42/42 PSI. Last run up the Oxley I got lots of feathering on the sides mainly due to giving it lots of berries on the corners though this does wear off during normal riding.
I can get a full set of tyres from Mick at Motor Trade Machinists including freight for around $380 and I fit them myself, good pear of tyre levers and a bead breaker is all you will need. Bit of effort but saves me having to take the bike to a fitter and waiting for them to do the job.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: StinkyPete on December 14, 2017, 06:49:34 AM
ST1300 fitted with PR4's and am getting around 20,000 per set.     Lowest I have had is 18,000km with some big pillion trips, and the best has been 22,000km.    I run 42 front and 44 rear.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Wild Rose on December 14, 2017, 07:02:01 AM
I replaced my Pilot Road 4 with 30,000km on them
Even though they were still legal and I could have got another 5000k out of them
But the bike was getting it's 48,000km service
And I had a set of PR3's in my garage that I picked up 12 months ago in that special deal going
So sevice new tyres new brake pads
Bike like brand new now
I run 42 & 42 psi
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: ppopeye on December 14, 2017, 08:29:21 AM


Quote from: StinkyPete on December 14, 2017, 07:49:34 AM (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=42.msg1231168#msg1231168)<blockquote>ST1300 fitted with PR4's and am getting around 20,000 per set.     Lowest I have had is 18,000km with some big pillion trips, and the best has been 22,000km.    I run 42 front and 44 rear.
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Do you run 44 in the back tyre all the time or just when a with pillion?? :like 
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: CallMeSteve on December 14, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
If not I'll just fade away and not bother coming back which is a real shame because I've always found this site a great source of information.

I agree that would be a shame Sandman, because the guys and gals around here are genuine and always looking to help. I don’t think Biggles was trying to be rude or smart. He can be blunt, but he’s a gentleman and like everyone else here is just trying to offer helpful information.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on December 14, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
I'm running PR4 GT 170/60/17. Love them. The only issue I have is I'm not getting the wear that the majority seem to get. I'm looking at just over 5,000 and the RHS is starting run out of rubber.
This is the second set that have worn on the RHS faster that the left. They also have what appears to be an unhealthy amount of feathering.
I have been given all sorts of reasons why it wears more on the RHS, from the camber in the road, I'm harder into the R corners than the L (which I put some credence on this as I do like to power out of the RHers.
I pulled into a servo the other day and a guy said that my suspension was not set up right with that amount of feathering.
I run the rear at 40 and the front at 38 and just me and no gear.
Has anyone got any comments on why it's wearing so fast and the feathering.
Once again thanks in advance. :bl11
I think your tyre pressures are to low. Try running at Honda's suggested 42/42 though the slightly heavier 1100 has 36/42 where I usually run at 38/44 as I ride two up most of the time.

While I'm here.

Currently running PR4 GT up front and Roadsmart 3 on the rear which so far has been the best tyre there with about 8,000 km half worn.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Biggles on December 14, 2017, 12:23:31 PM
Thanks for your gratuitous comments. I didn't expect to be trolled on this site.
For your information Biggles, I purchased the tyres this time last year. Did one fantastic ride from Tweed to The Entrance and back, around 2000 kms. I posted it here as well if you're interested.

I've apologised to Sandman in a PM for what I construe as a misunderstanding.  My contributions to the Forum are intended to be helpful, and I was reporting my experience while suggesting such a low distance from a set of tyres is ridiculous.  In the absence of a scientific analysis of tyre wear, I recognise it wasn't much help.

I agree that would be a shame Sandman, because the guys and gals around here are genuine and always looking to help. I don’t think Biggles was trying to be rude or smart. He can be blunt, but he’s a gentleman and like everyone else here is just trying to offer helpful information.

Thanks for the boost, Steve.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sandman on December 14, 2017, 01:36:45 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. The Honda shop at Nerang were the ones who fitted both and advised me on the pressure.

I have also gone back to Biggles and apologised. I may have been a bit too sensative. Had a long frustrating day and I fear I took it out in a late night blast. I'll take a deep breathe next time and as I said to Biggles, not be so quick to judge.
So we can all have a group hug. o:)  :H  :Blow

Biggles also suggested a wheel alignment so i'll check that out too.

Does anyone know a decent tyre place around the tweed or Gold Coast. I'm even happy to go to Brisbane if need be. Any chance to get on the bike.

thanks again to all
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Post by: ppopeye on December 14, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
5000 does seem to be a low distance for tyres. My only experience is with bridgestone T30gt which look like getting about 15000 or so which is also low compared to others, and I dont ride hard. I will try pr4 next time as I think they may have an edge for cornering. I have been running 42/42psi onq my ST1300. Trying a little higher in the back now. 44 ish. As I do not recall much mention of feathering I also would suggest checking things like bearings, alignment as something must be causing it.



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Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on December 14, 2017, 04:05:43 PM
I think your tyre pressures are to low. Try running at Honda's suggested 42/42 though the slightly heavier 1100 has 36/42 where I usually run at 38/44 as I ride two up most of the time.

While I'm here.

Currently running PR4 GT up front and Roadsmart 3 on the rear which so far has been the best tyre there with about 8,000 km half worn.
Thinking back I used to run 40/45 psi in my 1100.
I used the Dunlop Roadsmart 2 (three sets before she burnt) with all giving around the 16,000km rear and 25,000 front. The bike had the Roadsmarts on it when I bought it and running at the Honda recommended pressures caused a bit of feathering of both front and rear. They didn't last as long as the Michies, but were a lot cheaper (and I got more practice with the tyre changer).
As suggested earlier, check the alignment, bearings, etc and if all good try more air pressure.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Williamson on December 14, 2017, 05:30:43 PM
Well, I'm glad this thread is back on track, I was a little worried this morning.

I have some empathy for you Sandman, my PR4 GT rear lasted 16,000km, but scalloping developed much earlier.  Much better than yours, but disappointing considering some of the others' efforts.  There's a little story about my woes here: http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=12309.25 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=12309.25)

The replacement Roadsmart 2 on the rear has around 1,000km on it;  the PR4 GT front has around 17,000km and good for a while yet.

Do you have any pics of your PR4's?
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brock on December 14, 2017, 05:40:11 PM
5000 is definitey not right, I have the PR4s on wy 1100, and have had them for about a year, well over 5000Ks.

I run mine at about 42PI, (when I remember to check). I think a look at the mounting of the wheel may be in order, as the tyre in normal use should sit on the middle wher the compound is harder.

 Look at the swing arm bearings, ( put bike on centre stand with wheel off the ground) and give it a wiggle, if the left bearing has failed, the left side might lift tranfering weight onto the right side...

If all else fails, start taking only left hand turns.....    o:) o:) o:) o:)
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sandman on December 18, 2017, 10:07:03 AM
I should have mentioned that the wear is on the RHS only of the tyre. Important piece of information omitted.

So after a conversation with the guys at Gold Coast Tyres at Mermaid Beach I was put in contact with Dave Kellet (07 3290 2811) who is in Slacks Creek and he spent half an hour on the phone with me going over what some of the issues might be. Dave is a frame expert and his take is that there could be a slight mis-alignment between the wheels which is causing a drag on the RHS of the tyre.
I had it on the highway on Sunday with the Cruise Control on and it pulls to the left so I'd say it an alignment issue.

Anyway, I have put on a new PR4 GT (they are a cracker) and I'm going to take it up to Dave after Christmas and he'll do some diagnostics.

thanks again to all
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Lorien Vale on December 18, 2017, 11:07:50 AM
I can't vote accurately because I have Pirelli on the rear a Michelin on the front :eek
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Big Gaz on April 22, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Michelin Pilot 3  , I give them a good try out through  the Murchison Hwy in damp and dry conditions . Very stable and secure ride in changing conditions .   
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on April 22, 2018, 07:23:45 PM


Currently running PR4 GT up front and Roadsmart 3 on the rear which so far has been the best tyre there with about 8,000 km half worn.
Pr4 up front now done 6,300km and the rear Roadsmart 3 now has at least 10,500km; closer to 12,500 with the estimated 2000km or more between speedo cable breaking and it's repair. An estimated 1000 to 1500 km remaining on the rear.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Skip on April 22, 2018, 08:01:31 PM
Had a set of PR4's fitted recently after getting 24,000 km out of the previous set of Michy's.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Mitch on April 22, 2018, 08:23:00 PM
Have been running Continental trail attack 2's on the KTM, average 15,000 k, great grip for a 80/20 tire.
For the trip to Mackay I have ordered a set of Continental road attack 3's from Riders domain (Jake Wilson) after reading glowing reports.
 Will report back after the trip.
           :grin :slvr13 :grin
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: redrider on January 14, 2019, 08:31:13 AM
Have a set of road pilot 4s on the st1300 with 23.000ks.maybe 2.000 left on the back
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: alans1100 on January 14, 2019, 11:02:18 AM
ST1100A

PR4GT up front with 12000 km up
Roadsmart 3 at the rear with 5000 km

ST1300A

Pirelli Angel up front with 6000km
BT54 at the rear with 3000 km
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: johnnyYTED on January 14, 2019, 04:05:41 PM
 :blk13 :dred11
STranger has new  PR4's  :dred11
STrangler also has PR4GT's
I've had PR's on both for long time and get good millage so I'll STick with them  ++  :blk13
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Shiney on January 15, 2019, 04:05:17 PM
Front:   PR4
Rear:   Avon Spirit ST

I have been running the Pilot Road tyres for years and they are great, but I have decided to give the Avon Spirit ST a go this time around (I'll let everyone know how they go after I have been using them for a while)

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on January 15, 2019, 04:15:02 PM
I've been running Pirelli Angel ST and they have great grip but am disappointed that the rear has gone after only 13,000Km. Front might make 20,000km but will not be using them again. This is on my CF Moto 650 so not a heavy bike or too powerful and I don't ride hard. Pressures have been kept at 5 psi above what CFM recommend too. Have a Mitchelin to go on the rear and will probably replace both before the Darwin trip in May.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: kennykeg on March 25, 2019, 10:19:35 PM
Pirelli angel GT
Great tyres and loads of grip
I took the st1100 to a track day at eastern creek and they never looked like letting go
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Sc0tt on May 10, 2019, 07:19:12 PM
Just fitted a set of Bridgestone T31s and so far they are miles ahead of the BT023s that they've replaced.

Scott
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Wolfrider on May 29, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Going back to Pirelli GT angels. I have had crap KMs from the bridgestone Battlax 23's currently on the bike.
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Wild Rose on May 29, 2019, 08:10:34 PM
I believe Pirelli have now brought out the Angel GT 2
I don't know what they are like
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: STeveo on June 02, 2019, 07:56:00 AM
My experience with Pirelli angle GT has been less than impressive. They are a great grippy tyre but the rear was gone in 13,000Km and the front is now at 12,000km and is almost gone. I thought these might do much better on a 650cc but will be looking to Michelin for next time.
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Post by: Deancantfish on February 07, 2020, 09:02:58 AM
I wish I'd read this thread before putting T31 battleax's on my ST... I now run 42/42 and still fight it on anything other than a mild corner....sigh... I miss my PR's
Dean

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Post by: Niles sharidan on May 25, 2023, 05:04:54 AM
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Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Brookester on May 25, 2023, 07:49:59 AM
Recently had Michelin Road 6 fitted as Pirelli no longer make Angel GT 'A' carcass to fit the ST1300. Biggles says they go all right so must be good
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now&quot;
Post by: CallMeSteve on May 27, 2023, 01:10:14 PM
I wish I'd read this thread before putting T31 battleax's on my ST... I now run 42/42 and still fight it on anything other than a mild corner....sigh... I miss my PR's
Dean

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I’m with you on that.  STrudel was wearing T31s when we first got him.  Shocking. Since then I’ve mostly run PRs. But last year we picked up a big chunk of metal in a near-new Road6, and being a long way (2 state borders) from home decided to replace rather than plug it.  The only tyre of the correct size at the shop was a Bridgestone A41 so that was an easy choice.
The A41 is not bad.  My pillion found it softer on bumps but felt less happy with it on tight twisties.  From the rider’s perspective the A41 doesn’t seem as willing to lean into corners as the Road6, but it’s okay enough that I’m not in a rush to swap it out. 
Title: Re: What brand tyres are you running now"
Post by: Diesel on November 04, 2023, 10:14:31 PM
Just threw some Pirelli Angel GTs on STella.


Different tyre gauge now, but I tried good old 43psi front and back, but handling was poor and dull.


Went up 2lbs and they became lively and how I normally expect STella to handle.


So yes... 2 psi can make quite a difference to your ride chaps and gals. Tyre life is also at its greatest when tyres are inflated correct.  I.e. not too low or high. I can tell by the feel of the bike and steering if my pressures are on point.


Cheers, Diesel