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Title: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on October 25, 2017, 12:15:04 PM
A little while ago my bike was pushed over :cuss so I decided to get Crash Bars.

After looking at all the options I decided to go with the F6B/Goldwing Crash Bars, these bars have a bend and thanks to this the pillion footrests don’t need to be moved :thumbs

Anyway when looking around I found that Martin aka “red dirt cowboy” from ST-Owners.com sells a mounting/adapter kit to mount the F6B/Goldwing Crash Bars to the ST1300  :clap

->   http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?158379-Available-now-Gold-Wing-Crash-Bar-to-ST1300-Adapter-Plates-and-Hardware-48-ship&highlight=adapter+kit (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?158379-Available-now-Gold-Wing-Crash-Bar-to-ST1300-Adapter-Plates-and-Hardware-48-ship&highlight=adapter+kit)

->   http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?158470-Powder-Coated-Flat-Black-Gold-Wing-Crash-Bars-87-shipping-(fits-ST1300-w-adapter)&highlight=adapter+kit (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?158470-Powder-Coated-Flat-Black-Gold-Wing-Crash-Bars-87-shipping-(fits-ST1300-w-adapter)&highlight=adapter+kit)

Martin advised that the best place to get the crash bars to go with the mounting/adapter kit is from shops that do trike conversions on the F6B/Goldwings as the crash bars are removed and no longer required once the conversion is done.
Anyway Martin also had some Crash Bars for sale so I was able to buy them from him along with the kit :thumb

Well everything arrived a bit over a week later.


The crash bars and kit
Also includes all the nuts and bolts that are needed for the job


(https://image.ibb.co/foB9T6/06_20171009_160105.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/hOa3o6/07_20171009_160111.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/crxuvm/08_20171009_160115.jpg) 

(https://image.ibb.co/ibEUT6/01_20171009_153722.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/k7hG86/02_20171009_160010.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/ikoOo6/03_20171009_160037.jpg)


As you can see the mounting/adapter plate is unfinished and the crash bars are tarnished so first thing was to smooth out the rough parts on the plate and polish up everything :thumbsup


(https://image.ibb.co/hweJMR/09_20171009_160125.jpg)  (https://image.ibb.co/jsFgam/10_20171009_160149.jpg)   

(https://image.ibb.co/k7nuvm/04_20171011_165909.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/cA53o6/05_20171011_165947.jpg)   


The next thing I did was have the crash bars powder coated black. (I reckon as they look better in black then chrome on the ST) 8)


(https://image.ibb.co/i8Q3o6/11_20171018_084248.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/dyK2gR/12_20171018_084256.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/fwkKT6/13_20171018_084259.jpg)


Once this was all done it was finally time to install them on the bike by following the instructions provided with the kit.
I have added a scan of the instructions to this post but will run over the basics below :wink1


The Install

First mount the bars to the mounting/adapter plate using the nuts and bolts provided.


(https://image.ibb.co/fqMF1R/15_20171018_091542.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/cSvm86/16_20171018_091544.jpg)   
(https://image.ibb.co/ivgR86/14_20171018_091537.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/gbxNgR/17_20171018_091554.jpg)


Once this is done remove the panniers then remove one frame bolt.
* Only remove one bolt at a time. If both bolts are removed at the same time it’ll be VERY hard to reinstall the bolts as the subframe may become misaligned with the frame.


(https://image.ibb.co/jHU2gR/18_20171018_094647.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/nCxcFm/19_20171018_094736.jpg)


Loosely attach the mounting/adapter plate with one of the supplied bolts.


(https://image.ibb.co/nHe2gR/20_20171018_094913.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/jjmto6/21_20171018_094929.jpg)


Swing the plate around and remove the second bolt from the frame then swing the plate back and insert one of the supplied bolts to finish attaching the plate to the bike.


(https://image.ibb.co/kpM4vm/22_20171018_100041.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/nG2zT6/23_20171018_100048.jpg)


* The left side is very close to the pannier when installed and needs to be pulled forward when tightening the bolts to allow clearance for the pannier.


Job done :grin
Here are some extra pics showing the finished install


(https://image.ibb.co/kGWhgR/24_20171018_100115.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/juxzT6/25_20171018_100123.jpg)   

(https://image.ibb.co/iadCgR/27_20171018_110749.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/jOMMam/26_20171018_100143.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/cWh51R/28_20171018_110742.jpg)   (https://image.ibb.co/jnKJMR/29_20171018_110715.jpg)


I am very happy with the finished product and think it looks good.


Cheers
Shiney



I should add the total cost...

The Mounting/Adapter Kit & Crash Bars plus delivery came to $152.70 USD.
And the powder coating was $66 AUD (Custom Coating. 30 Leonard Crs, Brendale, QLD. Ph (07) 3205 2833)

(If you get the F6B bars they are already powder coated black so that can save some money ;-*)


Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: CallMeSteve on October 25, 2017, 12:24:29 PM
This looks great Shiney.  I reckon I could go for that.  Thanks for posting instructions that are so clear even a noob could follow them.

I'm just wondering - does your pillion notice the loss of heel-room with the guards fitted ?
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on October 25, 2017, 12:45:11 PM
This looks great Shiney.  I reckon I could go for that.  Thanks for posting instructions that are so clear even a noob could follow them.

I'm just wondering - does your pillion notice the loss of heel-room with the guards fitted ?

Thanks mate :grin

The wife said that when she has the foot peg under the center of her foot the bar just touches the back of her boot but that it isn't annoying or irritating at all :thumbsup

The only issue that she has is that she had to change the way she gets on the bike.
She now has to place her foot on the peg with her toes facing forward when getting on the bike as the bars stop her from spinning her foot as she swings her leg over.

But all in all she is happy with them :runyay


Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on October 25, 2017, 12:46:30 PM
I have also added the cost to the bottom of the original post :thumbs
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: johnnyYTED on November 04, 2017, 11:23:35 AM
 :blk13 :dred11
I juST looked at Martins poST and sent him a reply asking if he has any bars left, and the adaptor plate. I will order them if he has some then fit them to STrangler   :grin
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on November 04, 2017, 10:27:19 PM
They are awesome for piece of mind :thumb

I also found that he is selling them on ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ST1300-Motorcycle-Crash-Bars-Saddlebag-Guards-Chrome-All-Years/332432792554?hash=item4d6689dbea:g:8GEAAOSwav1ZzCr5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ST1300-Motorcycle-Crash-Bars-Saddlebag-Guards-Chrome-All-Years/332432792554?hash=item4d6689dbea:g:8GEAAOSwav1ZzCr5)

Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: johnnyYTED on November 06, 2017, 11:23:26 AM
 :blk13 :dred11
I also found that he is selling them on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ST1300-Motorcycle-Crash-Bars-Saddlebag-Guards-Chrome-All-Years/332432792554?hash=item4d6689dbea:g:8GEAAOSwav1ZzCr5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ST1300-Motorcycle-Crash-Bars-Saddlebag-Guards-Chrome-All-Years/332432792554?hash=item4d6689dbea:g:8GEAAOSwav1ZzCr5)
I just bought a set on Martins eBay site, should be here by the end of the month, then I will have them powder coated and fit them to STrangler. :thumbs
 :popcorn
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on November 06, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
Sounds good mate, I'm sure they'll look awesome on STrangler :thumbsup
If you have any issues or questions about the install just let me know :thumbs

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: LindsayGT on November 06, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
I like these a whole lot more than the MCL bars. There seems to be much more room for the Pillion's heels.

Depending on what may happen early next year, I might swap them over.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: johnnyYTED on November 07, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
 :blk13 :dred11
My crash bars are on there way. After emailing Martin I suggested he join OzSTOC. He seems like a nice chap.
Martin is trying to gauge whether to do another run of his adapter plates so if your considering to buy them, (he has 10 adapter sets left, and only 1 set of F6B black tip over bars left), can you post up here your interest so he can decide. He is sourcing more bars also, but they are getting harder to find even in the US. If he can see demand in Australia he will continue with them.. as demand in the US is slowing.
Biggles yours are on there way also. :grin
So post up your interest,  :think1 these tip over bars can save you a lot of $$$ replacing/repairing panniers.
Martin has said we can contact him via his email  scrptdr@aol.com with any questions/ enquiry.

Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on November 07, 2017, 11:03:10 AM
Awesome work johnny :-++ :-++ :thumbsup :thumbs
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: CallMeSteve on November 07, 2017, 12:22:47 PM
I’m interested.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: johnnyYTED on November 17, 2017, 09:33:11 AM
 :blk13 :dred11
My crash bars arrived and I've posted on the facebook page. Now to see if Chrome lQQks ok or not.. Going to fit them now,
 :thumb
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on November 17, 2017, 10:14:54 AM
 :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: johnnyYTED on November 17, 2017, 12:59:16 PM
 :blk13 :dred11
I kinda like the chrome on the Charcoal after fitting them
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Gadget on November 17, 2017, 03:52:02 PM
 The chrome against charcoal lóòks very good.

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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: richo on November 17, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
 ++. Looks good.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on November 17, 2017, 07:21:42 PM
Awesome work mate, they look great :thumbsup
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Lorien Vale on November 18, 2017, 07:59:59 AM
Very Nice ++
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Biggles on November 18, 2017, 05:12:56 PM
Very Nice ++

I guess you're now looking at fabricating a pair for the ST11...
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Lorien Vale on November 19, 2017, 08:29:09 AM
Very Nice ++

I guess you're now looking at fabricating a pair for the ST11...

Certainly a possibility. I'll have a think about it. I'll need to look closely to find an attachment point and of course they will have to be painted not chrome plated ;-*
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: JuST Peter on November 19, 2017, 07:27:35 PM
Very Nice ++

I guess you're now looking at fabricating a pair for the ST11...

Certainly a possibility. I'll have a think about it. I'll need to look closely to find an attachment point and of course they will have to be painted not chrome plated ;-*
Given the number of ST11's up your way, you could have a steady stream of potential customers  :grin
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Lorien Vale on November 22, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
Interesting thought Peter :think1
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Biggles on November 22, 2017, 02:43:53 PM
My guards arrived yesterday.

They come with good instructions, one of which warns about the very tight fit of the left bar against the pannier.

I did as they suggested, and didn't like the fact that the pannier was actually firmly pressed against the bar.  I found that carefully grinding a couple of locations removed that tension and let the pannier on and off normally.

The first one removed the metal that rubbed against the top hex bolt:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/Bar%201_zpsppnjhix7.jpg)

The second area was the original Goldwing brace at the rear of the bar:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/Bar%202_zpstlusxboq.jpg)

As the instructions indicated, the was no interference on the RH side.

They add 1.6 kg to the bike's weight.  Not ideal, but at least it's down reasonably low.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: johnnyYTED on November 22, 2017, 03:09:24 PM
 :blk13 :dred11
Bill I hadn't noticed the second point of contact on the pannier in your 2nd pic, hmmm I will check it out and grind it down also.. I had the same idea with the first pic though,  :thumbsup
Title: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on January 28, 2021, 09:34:43 AM
Hi all. Are these adaptor brackets still available?


Edit: found him on eBay .... a little pricey for just the plates and bolts... $160 AUD delivered

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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on January 29, 2021, 07:44:12 AM
You could try contacting Martin aka “red dirt cowboy” on https://www.st-owners.com/forums/ (https://www.st-owners.com/forums/)

He might be willing to do you a deal :think1
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on January 29, 2021, 07:48:26 AM
Yeah, I’ve been in touch via eBay.... he’s offered me to take on the Aussie franchise as he is retiring.....


I turned it down


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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on March 28, 2021, 07:58:52 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210327/620da654e95e79bf41fb3840b0266692.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210327/a7516290c49dbf2d67d62ad79a748752.jpg)
Bought the Bygdawg tip over bars. I prefer the rigidity of these over the gold wing with adapter plates thingy....


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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Shiney on March 28, 2021, 08:18:03 AM
They look good WallyD, how much did they cost?
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: StinkyPete on March 28, 2021, 08:55:27 AM
Do they get in the way of the pillion's heels?   They certainly look really good.   :thumb
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on March 28, 2021, 09:28:56 AM
They look good WallyD, how much did they cost?
They were around $400 AUD landed

Not cheap but prefer it as 1 piece and neat no mess about finish


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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on March 28, 2021, 09:30:06 AM
Do they get in the way of the pillion's heels?   They certainly look really good.   :thumb
I haven’t tried it with the wifey yet, but I think they may get in the way... I’m looking for some type of drop down for the stock pegs but can’t find them anywhere..... if anyone knows of any, please speak up...


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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Williamson on March 28, 2021, 10:42:55 AM
... I’m looking for some type of drop down for the stock pegs but can’t find them anywhere..... if anyone knows of any, please speak up...

Search "motorcycle foot peg lowering kit" on Google, you may find what you're looking for, or at least something you could "macgyver" to suit.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Biggles on March 28, 2021, 12:21:11 PM
... I’m looking for some type of drop down for the stock pegs but can’t find them anywhere..... if anyone knows of any, please speak up...

Search "motorcycle foot peg lowering kit" on Google, you may find what you're looking for, or at least something you could "macgyver" to suit.

Yes, the peg lowering kits are for the rider's pegs, but an adaptation might be possible for the pillion.  I know Mrs Biggles isn't enchanted by the loss of 20mm of her footpegs surrendered to the tipover bars.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: StinkyPete on March 28, 2021, 01:14:08 PM
....... I know Mrs Biggles isn't enchanted by the loss of 20mm of her footpegs surrendered to the tipover bars.
Chris loves the pillion footboards that I've fitted to the Beemer.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Langers on March 28, 2021, 03:45:25 PM
Not cheap, but these should do the job (although they might foul the crash bars):

https://www.mv-motorrad.de/en/MV+Lowered+Passenger+Footrest+Honda+Pan+European+ST1300+2008.htm (https://www.mv-motorrad.de/en/MV+Lowered+Passenger+Footrest+Honda+Pan+European+ST1300+2008.htm)
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Williamson on March 28, 2021, 06:37:05 PM
Chris loves the pillion footboards that I've fitted to the Beemer.

Similarly, Helen finds these footboards more comfortable than the standard pegs.

(https://i.ibb.co/LPpyr7s/St1300-Foot-Plate.png)
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Biggles on March 29, 2021, 11:26:22 AM
Similarly, Helen finds these footboards more comfortable than the standard pegs.
(https://i.ibb.co/LPpyr7s/St1300-Foot-Plate.png)

Save me a search- wheredja ged 'em?
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Williamson on March 29, 2021, 12:11:35 PM
Save me a search- wheredja ged 'em?

Bought and sold so many things from OzSTOC members and others through the Forum, Gumtree, eBay and Facbook Market Place, don't remember now.

But my best recollection, I got 'em from an OzSTOC member who listed 'em on Gumtree, and I'm guessing he was in WA.  Probably doesn't matter, they were a custom made job, CNC machined from a solid block of alloy, and whilst they are a very professional looking piece of gear, the holes and threads don't exactly line-up precisely and fitting needed a little bit of force.

When I give up the ST, I'll consider removing some of the extras, eg. Russell Day Long saddle, the Delkevic pipes and these footboards, and making them available to Forum members.  Duncan has already put his hand up for the pipes, so he'll have the right of first refusal.  Likewise for you (if you're interested) for the footboards, ie. if you don't give up the ST before me.   
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: West Aussie Glen on March 29, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
These are my MCL Pillion Foot Peg Extensions but I guess they are no longer vailable new.
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on March 29, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
Ended up buying a set of these off eBay ..... I’ll see how they go once they arrive.

If they work well, I’ll get a set for the front.... I don’t like mish mash

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210329/f506ed7401115009380425dc7329562b.jpg)


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Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Biggles on March 31, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
When I give up the ST, I'll consider removing some of the extras, eg. Russell Day Long saddle, the Delkevic pipes and these footboards, and making them available to Forum members.  Duncan has already put his hand up for the pipes, so he'll have the right of first refusal.  Likewise for you (if you're interested) for the footboards, ie. if you don't give up the ST before me.   

Yep- put my thumbprint on them, but don't give up the ST soon just for me!    :rofl
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Biggles on March 31, 2021, 12:09:05 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210329/f506ed7401115009380425dc7329562b.jpg)

I have such vivid negative memories of barking my shins on pushbike pedals that were the same design concept, that I have a strong aversion to those!   :eek

I know that type is common on off-road bikes, but ours are gentlemen's tourers.   :thumb
Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: Brock on March 31, 2021, 12:43:55 PM
And its OzSTOC, not AU Stock ;-* ;-*

Title: Re: ST1300 Rear Crash Guards
Post by: WallyD on March 31, 2021, 01:49:50 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210329/f506ed7401115009380425dc7329562b.jpg)

I have such vivid negative memories of barking my shins on pushbike pedals that were the same design concept, that I have a strong aversion to those!   :eek

I know that type is common on off-road bikes, but ours are gentlemen's tourers.   :thumb
I hear you.... difference being you needed to push on the peddles to move, now you just place your feet on them and twist at the wrist.... plus, by boots cover my shins


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