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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Lights and Lighting => Topic started by: tj189 on May 31, 2015, 10:19:10 AM
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Dealt with this group recently and have found them to have excellent customer service. After purchasing an item from them you receive a 10% discount for the next time you purchase.
They have a large number of LED product and lighting systems.....worth the look
http://d2daccessoriesshop.com/ (http://d2daccessoriesshop.com/)
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Great find Trevor :like I have forwarded your link to a mate who is looking for LED controllers :thumbsup
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Sounds like a good place to look.
This from their website:
"ABOUT US
Welcome to D2D Accessories, we are Australian owned and operated and source high quality lighting and accessories for the motorcycle and automotive markets distributing throughout Australia and New Zealand.
D2D Accessories sources its products from the USA and around the world. We continually look for a high level of craftsmanship."
If the prices are right, it's good to keep the money here and have ready access to products in short wait times and reasonable shipping costs. International carriage from the USA seems to be run by cartels who have no fear of competition.
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See D2D now have GEN 6 H4 headlights replacement plug and play bulbs, these are fanless and only draw 1.6 amps
http://d2d-accessories.myshopify.com/collections/d2d-led-headlight-replacement-kits (http://d2d-accessories.myshopify.com/collections/d2d-led-headlight-replacement-kits)
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Just checked and $190 a pair is a bit too step for me.
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See D2D now have GEN 6 H4 headlights replacement plug and play bulbs, these are fanless and only draw 1.6 amps
If these are plug and play then why doesn't the OEM wiring connect to the directly to the globe?
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The ballast is integrated into the bulb housing. If in one piece they may be tricky to fit if you don't have much room to play around with the locating clip. The easiest solution I have come across has a base you locate like the H4 bulb, then the LED unit slots in and you twist to lock in. HID kits usually work this way.
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I have just finished testing the new Gen 6 LED bulbs... The build quality of the light is outstanding and the LEDs are covered by a glass lens and the H4 has anti-scatter eyelids. The Gen 6 LEDs are CANbus friendly and fit most headlight housings, being fanless and haveing no LED starter box they are the most compact of the high output LED bulbs
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0837/8529/products/h4-4_1024x1024.jpg?v=1440229463)(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0837/8529/products/G6_LED_headlight_kits_advantage_1024x1024.jpg?v=1440572071)
http://d2d-accessories.myshopify.com/collections/d2d-led-headlight-replacement-kits/products/d2d-gen-6-led-h4-2800-lb-3000-hb-lumen-headlight-bulb (http://d2d-accessories.myshopify.com/collections/d2d-led-headlight-replacement-kits/products/d2d-gen-6-led-h4-2800-lb-3000-hb-lumen-headlight-bulb)
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https://youtu.be/a1HJRv0qtrw (https://youtu.be/a1HJRv0qtrw)
Installation of the Gen6 LED headlights
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Thanks Martinc. These look very good, and I like the absence of a fan and separate starter, the simple installation as shown in the video, choice of colour temperature, and no need to cut the rubber boot and compromise the integrity of the waterproofing for the reflector housing. What bike have you fitted them to, and how good is the low beam horizontal cut-off?
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Thanks Martinc. These look very good, and I like the absence of a fan and separate starter, the simple installation as shown in the video, choice of colour temperature, and no need to cut the rubber boot and compromise the integrity of the waterproofing for the reflector housing. What bike have you fitted them to, and how good is the low beam horizontal cut-off?
My bike is a KTM 990 SMT so not a lot of room (that was the assembly in the video) and a number of varying makes and models in the group I ride with. I will be posting a video up in the next few days of a night ride. I will pin it here for you and the group to see.
Also D2D now have a Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/D2D-Accessories/1496305060662031?view_public_for=1496305060662031 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/D2D-Accessories/1496305060662031?view_public_for=1496305060662031)
Thanks Pete
Cheers
Martin
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I'd be tempted to pay the premium just to get that brilliantly easy installation, compared with the knuckle-scraping usual battle to get the wretched spring clip back over the flange.
And if they do 50,000 hours like other LEDs claim, they'd pay for themselves easily compared with several filament bulbs.
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compared with the knuckle-scraping usual battle to get the wretched spring clip back over the flange.
Getting the spring back on is the easy bit....making sure the adapter ring (RH side only) stays on is another thing.
I'd be tempted to pay the premium.........And if they do 50,000 hours like other LEDs claim, they'd pay for themselves easily compared with several filament bulbs.
They'd want to last the life of the bike for that cost
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compared with the knuckle-scraping usual battle to get the wretched spring clip back over the flange.
Getting the spring back on is the easy bit....making sure the adapter ring (RH side only) stays on is another thing.
I'd be tempted to pay the premium.........And if they do 50,000 hours like other LEDs claim, they'd pay for themselves easily compared with several filament bulbs.
They'd want to last the life of the bike for that cost
with a 2 warranty and 50,000 hours they may well outlast the bike! ;-*
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If anyone is interested in the Gen 6 headlights here are images on the beam pattern
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1496766173949253.1073741829.1496305060662031&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1496766173949253.1073741829.1496305060662031&type=1)
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dont see a cutoff on low beam?
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If anyone is interested in the Gen 6 headlights here are images on the beam pattern
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1496766173949253.1073741829.1496305060662031&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1496766173949253.1073741829.1496305060662031&type=1)
Thanks for posting the information. I share TJ189's concerns about the low bean cut-off not being particularly obvious. How have you got on with on-road testing and are you getting drivers flicking their lights at you, thinking you are on high beam. I'm lining up to buy a set of these if the pattern is right.
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If anyone is interested in the Gen 6 headlights here are images on the beam pattern
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1496766173949253.1073741829.1496305060662031&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1496766173949253.1073741829.1496305060662031&type=1)
Thanks for posting the information. I share TJ189's concerns about the low bean cut-off not being particularly obvious. How have you got on with on-road testing and are you getting drivers flicking their lights at you, thinking you are on high beam. I'm lining up to buy a set of these if the pattern is right.
Hi Pete
I have just put up a night ride I did tonight... It shows the beam pattern and also the Low Beam cut off. My camera is not the beast for night shots but it shows clearly the cutoff. I do not get any flashing from oncoming drivers, I never have with these LEDs, used to get it with the HIDs.
I have put the video up on the D2D facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/D2D-Accessories/1496305060662031?ref=aymt_homepage_panel (https://www.facebook.com/pages/D2D-Accessories/1496305060662031?ref=aymt_homepage_panel)
Cheers
Martin
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Thanks so much Martin. Decent replacement H4 headlights seem to be upon us, and we're grateful for your thorough assessment and well documented information about those available from D2D. Here's a Youtube link to your night riding footage. https://youtu.be/N7rZ-cVjDIw The low beam cut-off can be clearly seen from around 2:10. :thumb They look pretty good and are a high priority on my list.
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Looked at the utube footage . . Low beam looked a tad high to me but can be adjusted down . . . Definite cutoff there though . . The bike looked more like a WeeStrom than a St1300 tho . .
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I've just ordered a set of these. I like the fact that I'm buying in Australia, they are fanless, and there's no need to cut an access through the headlight globe boot when fitting.
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(Translation, ) :popcorn
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My D2D H4 LED headlights have arrived and I've fitted them to my ST1300.
There is a disturbing high spot, above where I would hope the low beam cut-off would be, and unfortunately on the right side of the light field. In the attached photos of the light pattern, there is a tape measure against the wall, with the tip illustrating the centre of the height of the bike headlights. The photos show the Low Beam, High Beam and High Beam with my Dually LED spot lights.
I have not yet undertaken a dark o"clock road test.
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Next time I ride with you at night remind me to stay behind you, or a minimum of 5 km in front to avoid having my eyeballs burnt out.
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First I would disconnect one side to see which one is causing the high spot. Then I would try swapping the LEDs from one side to the other to see if that fixed the problem.
From memory, cars designed for driving on the left left hand have a high spot on low beam to the left to light up sign posts and the opposite for those designed to drive on the right. This usually built in to the lenses. I first noticed it on a VB Commodore.
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A second look at the top photo looks like the errant LED could be in at an angle.
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First I would disconnect one side to see which one is causing the high spot. Then I would try swapping the LEDs from one side to the other to see if that fixed the problem.
From memory, cars designed for driving on the left left hand have a high spot on low beam to the left to light up sign posts and the opposite for those designed to drive on the right. This usually built in to the lenses. I first noticed it on a VB Commodore.
Thanks for the tip. I was going to do a bit of investigating to find the cause, and you've given me some ideas. My clearance light are now LED as well :thumb
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Check my edit above as well.
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How did it go Pete?
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How did it go Pete?
I didn't get a chance to have a fiddle before I went to the Vic Logan RTE, but did a reasonable amount of night riding on the way over and back. The beam pattern looks like crap, and there's no cut-off which may be influenced by the reflector shape. I did lots of fiddling with the adjuster for beam height and when it was OK on Hi Beam, Lo was far too high. I need to work out which side is throwing the high spot on the right, and check for even the seating of the LED globes as a possible cause. They are certainly not twisted as the photos seem to suggest, and are both nicely horizontal in the housing. I reckon I had better forward penetration and a decent cut-off with my H4 65/55 +120's. The LED position lights are fantastic.
If I can't resolve this, it might turn out to have been an unfortunate self-education expense. I wonder if I could claim it on tax?
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I had high hopes for those. At more than twice the price of mine, I thought they would be better. I really did like the ability to adjust the colour.
Shiney had one of the ones like the ones I had on my bike fitted on the left yesterday and the standard bulb on the right. I'm still amazed how much difference it makes.
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It is a big change, and I like it :thumbs
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Shiney, I have a couple of LED clearance lights here for you to replace your blown ones. I meant to give them to Carol yesterday.
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From memory, cars designed for driving on the left left hand have a high spot on low beam to the left to light up sign posts and the opposite for those designed to drive on the right. This usually built in to the lenses. I first noticed it on a VB Commodore.
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A second look at the top photo looks like the errant LED could be in at an angle.
I agree and think that they may be designed for Right Hand Drive countries. You might have been shipped the wrong globes accidentally.
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I agree and think that they may be designed for Right Hand Drive countries. You might have been shipped the wrong globes accidentally.
That thought had occurred to me, but they are an Aussie company , shipping to an Aussie address, and I see no options on their web site for vehicles driving on the left or right. I will persist in seeking a satisfactory solution.
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I'm pretty sure that the globes arent country specific, its the headlight lenses the determin the light pattern
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I'm pretty sure that the globes arent country specific, its the headlight lenses the determin the light pattern
That is what I was trying to say before.
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Maybe you guys are right, but I've just been trying to check by comparing part numbers between US, UK and OZ sites, and they all quote the same part numbers for both the headlight and bulb, so I'm confused.
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As well the normal low beam protecting forward Car headlights (back in the VB Commodore days anyway) had the glass lens on the left with a diagonal thickening of the glass which projected low beam up to the left to illuminate road signs. The right lens also projected up to the left as well.
I don't think motorbikes had the same set up. I haven't noticed it, on any I've seen, it was just that StinkyPete's light pattern reminded me of it.
Sorry if I've confuse anyone.
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As well the normal low beam protecting forward Car headlights (back in the VB Commodore days anyway) had the glass lens on the left with a diagonal thickening of the glass which projected low beam up to the left to illuminate road signs. The right lens also projected up to the left as well.
I don't think motorbikes had the same set up. I haven't noticed it, on any I've seen, it was just that StinkyPete's light pattern reminded me of it.
Sorry if I've confuse anyone.
Don't know about the 1300s but the 1100 has three headlights depending on the market it's sold in. Europe is tinted (yellow) with low beam aimed to the right. UK is clear and uses a standard H4 60/55w globe and why we don't have that instead of the flat beam which is for the US, Canada and us. Flat beam just means the bike can be sold in either LH or RH drive markets.
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I'm hot on the trail of the light pattern problem. The dud pattern was coming from the right side, and it appears that I had installed either one or both D2D globes upside down. With that problem corrected they now show a nice pattern against the wall of the shed, with a good differentiation between high and low beam. Night testing is still to be done, and I'll take some more photos of the corrected beam pattern like I did before. With a forecast max of 38 today, and dripping humidity, it's time to vacate the shed. :H
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Well chased down Pete. I thought today could have been a good day to stoke up the forge. It cant make the shed that much hotter ;-*
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That would do it. You in inadvertently changed the focal length
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I'm hot on the trail of the light pattern problem. The dud pattern was coming from the right side, and it appears that I had installed either one or both D2D globes upside down. With that problem corrected they now show a nice pattern against the wall of the shed, with a good differentiation between high and low beam. Night testing is still to be done, and I'll take some more photos of the corrected beam pattern like I did before. With a forecast max of 38 today, and dripping humidity, it's time to vacate the shed. :H
Isn't there tabs on the base that only allow the bulb to go in one way?
Still, it's good to hear that you have gotten it sorted out :thumbs
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Isn't there tabs on the base that only allow the bulb to go in one way?
There is a plate which has the three tabs, and the globe inserts into a bayonet mount through the middle of the plate. The plate is fitted first and held in place with the globe spring clip. The globe can then go in either way up, as the bayonet lugs are 180 degrees apart.
A brief video of how the globes fit can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HJRv0qtrw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HJRv0qtrw&feature=youtu.be) which "martinc" poster earlier in this thread.
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Isn't there tabs on the base that only allow the bulb to go in one way?
There is a plate which has the three tabs, and the globe inserts into a bayonet mount through the middle of the plate. The plate is fitted first and held in place with the globe spring clip. The globe can then go in either way up, as the bayonet lugs are 180 degrees apart.
A brief video of how the globes fit can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HJRv0qtrw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HJRv0qtrw&feature=youtu.be) which "martinc" poster earlier in this thread.
I must have missed seeing that vid :||||
It looks like a interesting way to install a bulb (as long as you know it can be installed upside down :fp) :thumbs
Did you find it to be easier to install then a normal bulb?
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It's much the same as fitting a standard bulb, not difficult at all, and can easily be accomplished without removing tupperware. The most challenging part is that the rubber boot compresses a bit when the globe is inserted, and thus it's a bit tight as it locks into the bayonet mount.
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It's much the same as fitting a standard bulb, not difficult at all, and can easily be accomplished without removing tupperware. The most challenging part is that the rubber boot compresses a bit when the globe is inserted, and thus it's a bit tight as it locks into the bayonet mount.
Sounds good :thumbsup
I look forward to seeing what the lighting is like with the bulbs refitted :thumbs
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With At least the ST having Honda's H4 globe non standard tab locations did you have any issue when fitting the LED globe mounting ring?
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With At least the ST having Honda's H4 globe non standard tab locations did you have any issue when fitting the LED globe mounting ring?
I cut off the two bottom ones, just like you would do with any H4 globe. :thumb
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Hey Pete,
It must be sweet relief to have a much cooler day today.
I'm really looking forward to viewing some updated pictures of the low beam cutoff. I have been holding off getting a pair of these "globes". The light might be showing the end of the tunnel.
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I'm hot on the trail of the light pattern problem. The dud pattern was coming from the right side, and it appears that I had installed either one or both D2D globes upside down. With that problem corrected they now show a nice pattern against the wall of the shed, with a good differentiation between high and low beam. Night testing is still to be done, and I'll take some more photos of the corrected beam pattern like I did before. With a forecast max of 38 today, and dripping humidity, it's time to vacate the shed. :H
I've finally got around to photographing the beam patterns with the D2D LED globes installed correctly on my ST1300. I've done a reasonable amount of night riding with the D2D globes and find them somewhat disappointing. The LED arrays for Low and High beam work independently and the Lows turn off when the Highs come on. Have a look at the patterns in the attached photos. The extended tape measure in the middle of the light field against the carport door is showing the height of the middle of the headlight glass. In my view there is no decent low-beam cutoff, and with the High Beam set at the elevation that gives the best penetration down the road, the low beams are far too high and I keep getting "flashed" by oncoming traffic. There is still a high spot on low beam beign thrown to the right. Overall, the D2D have given me a rather unsatisfactory beam pattern, and I'm going to go back to my Narva H4 +120's which I think give better penetration down the road without upsetting on-coming traffic. Bugger..... :fp
I'll take another series of photos with the Narva H4 +120's for comparison.
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That's still the problem with LEDs- they cast a "glow" rather than a beam.
Even spending over $1000 a pair for Kristas doesn't give you the beam HIDs gives, but sure punches out a bright "glow".
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Thanks Pete, appreciate the time you have spent doing this. Great information.