Brokem mirror glass - 1994 ST

[Carsten]

Hi all.  I broke the left side mirror glass yesterday.  Tried to adjust on the run and put my thumb through it (dumb ass).  I have 3/4 left.  My question is - from any previous member problems - can the glass be replaced by a glass business - or brought as a separate Honda part or am I stuck having to buy the whole unit.  Thanks

[Shillas]

Hi Carsten,

Any good glazier should be able to cut you a mirror - might be flat, so you'll have a different view out the back. If you find one that does auto glass, even better.

Had to do mine a couple of years ago, didn't cost that much.

[Wild Rose]

My previous St1300 had a replacement mirror “broken by previous owner”
Once riding near Dorrigo I hit a pothole and the glass fell out
I replaced it with a new one from Mr Honda

[Langers]

A good glass place should be able to do the job for around $30. You might have to leave the mirror mount with them for a day or so (I did).
Cheers ... Mark

[Carsten]

Thanks for the advice.  Found a local glass shop to do it for $45.  Priced a replacement mirror and came back at $180.  Ouch.

[Biggles]

Thanks for the advice.  Found a local glass shop to do it for $45.  Priced a replacement mirror and came back at $180.  Ouch.

I'm guessing the $180 would include the surround, rather than just the glass.  Still expensive.
When I needed the same repair the glazier cut a flat mirror for that side.  It meant I had two perspectives when comparing the view between the mirrors.  A lot like the interior mirror on the car vs the wing mirrors.

[ruSTynutz]

Personally, I'd much rather flat mirrors.

Never been a fan of convex mirrors...
I've never understood how making things look further away can be a good thing.
Makes me wonder if that's the reason so many car drivers cut people off when merging... 

[Williamson]

Personally, I'd much rather flat mirrors.

Never been a fan of convex mirrors...

Agree with both of those points.

I've never understood how making things look further away can be a good thing.

I think they are for the purpose of providing drivers / riders with a wider field of vision, rather than making things further away, the latter is just a by product of the former.

Makes me wonder if that's the reason so many car drivers cut people off when merging....

Possibly, but I think that is just a result of dumb, thoughtless drivers.

[ruSTynutz]

I think they are for the purpose of providing drivers / riders with a wider field of vision, rather than making things further away, the latter is just a by product of the former.

I get that, but having to process the fact that other vehicles are actually closer than they look is just another issue some drivers seem to struggle with. So much easier if what you see is what you get...as such. 

I do wonder if having a wider field of view actually discourages some drivers from bothering to do head checks... 

[ruSTynutz]

Just found an article on the RACV site titled "Convex mirrors don’t belong on new cars"

https://www.racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/archive/convex-mirrors-dont-belong-on-new-cars.html

To be fair, there's a link in that article that argues why they should be fitted... 

Sorry if I've hijacked things a bit...

[Langers]

That's odd. My replacement mirror (LHS) makes vehicles appear closer than they are. Often is the case I check the mirror and think "Crikey, that car is right up my tail" when in fact it is much further back. I've grown accustomed to it and use it to safely determine when I can head back in to the left after passing a vehicle.

[ruSTynutz]

Had me scratching my head there... 
My brain hurts just thinking about it...

[Wild Rose]

It’s a real pain when your right mirror is broken
You have to do a shoulder check every time before you pull out to pass a car
Instead of just using your mirrors
I love the little blind spot mirrors which I put on the inside top of mirror

[ruSTynutz]

I'd be doing a shoulder/head check regardless... 

[Bodř]

I'd be doing a shoulder/head check regardless... 

Was thinking the same thing.

[Biggles]

That's odd. My replacement mirror (LHS) makes vehicles appear closer than they are. Often is the case I check the mirror and think "Crikey, that car is right up my tail" when in fact it is much further back. I've grown accustomed to it and use it to safely determine when I can head back in to the left after passing a vehicle.

That's the effect of having a flat mirror instead of a convex one when you're used to the latter.  I know what you mean about being surprised, but that's the way it actually is!

[Langers]

All i know is the new mirror gives the impression the vehicle is right behind me when in fact it is 20 metres behind me. A flat mirror does not give that illusion. Rather than spend more time on this, I think i'll go for a ride.

[Williamson]

..... Rather than spend more time on this, I think i'll go for a ride.

Seeing as I can't go for a ride because the Mighty ST is in pieces in the garage, I have time to add my opinion.

All i know is the new mirror gives the impression the vehicle is right behind me when in fact it is 20 metres behind me....

Surely that would only be with a concave mirror, but that would provide a distorted view around the perimeter of the mirror.  Not good for riding, but okay when shaving.

[ruSTynutz]

Surely that would only be with a concave mirror...

That was my thinkin' too, Michael...