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Honda ST1300 Section => Plastic, Fairings, Panniers and Top Box's 1300 => Topic started by: jf3000 on January 07, 2016, 09:46:32 PM

Title: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 07, 2016, 09:46:32 PM
Can the back pannier lock section be replaced? Thank you
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Chops on January 08, 2016, 05:33:33 AM
If your after the pannier locking mechanism , a wrecker in Tassie has plenty of 1300 bits
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2010-Honda-ST1300-L-H-S-Pannier-Locking-Mechanism-/121855955217?hash=item1c5f2e5111:g:tIIAAOSwu4BVmCza (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2010-Honda-ST1300-L-H-S-Pannier-Locking-Mechanism-/121855955217?hash=item1c5f2e5111:g:tIIAAOSwu4BVmCza)
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 08, 2016, 07:54:52 AM
I need the whole part of the lock including the key
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: StinkyPete on January 08, 2016, 08:22:28 AM
Jason,  Have a look at this site  http://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/a/hon/5053f21ef870021c54be6860/grab-rail (http://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/a/hon/5053f21ef870021c54be6860/grab-rail)   which will let you choose the parts that you need.  They can either be ordered direct from the Ron Ayres web site, or from Blue City Motorcycles in Australia at  http://bluecitymotorcycles.com.au/oem/honda/search-parts?brand=honda&year=2008&model=4901&assembly=69596 (http://bluecitymotorcycles.com.au/oem/honda/search-parts?brand=honda&year=2008&model=4901&assembly=69596)
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 09, 2016, 11:24:35 PM
Couldnt work it out. The top box I have snapped the key in the lock and wanted to get that entire lock area replaced.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Brock on January 10, 2016, 12:34:55 AM
A lock smith can remove the broken piece easily, they have the proper tools to hook it out. Then oreder a key blank and have it cut.

Lots cheaper.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 10, 2016, 02:08:42 AM
So using the broken cut piece, grafted onto a new blank?
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Gadget on January 10, 2016, 07:46:08 AM
The locksmith using a special machine, chit the new blank to match the shape of the old key. Basically it traces the shape of the old key. The same machine they use to make a copy.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: StinkyPete on January 10, 2016, 07:51:44 AM
I thought from your initial post that you were after a full side Pannier Lock Assy, rather than the Top Box Lock.   However, Brock and Gadget have nailed it, so just take it to a lockmsith, and they will be able to sort it out for you.   :thumb
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Williamson on January 10, 2016, 08:48:30 AM
A good locksmith can do almost anything with a lock.

On the way back from the 2013 Ulysses AGM I lost my keys to the Classic trailer lid.  This was somewhere between Nymboida and Ebor, didn't miss them until we checked into the hotel-motel at Uralla - Top Pub (great pub, check this link: https://goo.gl/maps/Zxy3QKBRuh62 ).   My travelling companion (Mal), said later, "Yeah, I noticed a bunch of keys with a Ulysses lanyard on the road somewhere".  Thanks Mal!!!

Anyway, a locksmith at Tamworth (https://goo.gl/maps/icHk1P634iz) helped, he put a little gizmo in the lock, it 'read' the inside of the lock, he plugged the gizmo into his office PC which linked to a key cutting machine.  Five minutes later he handed me a key, said "Try that", I did, it worked, he cut me another one and only charged me $20:00.

As suggested above, get the bike and pannier to a locksmith.

Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: JuST Peter on January 10, 2016, 10:47:12 AM
I've always been under the impression the ignition key fitted the panniers and lockable glove box (mine does all that), so why would jf3000 need to have a blank key cut? Or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Brock on January 10, 2016, 11:37:09 AM
Getting another (short key) cut. saves removing the key from the ignition to open it.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Biggles on January 10, 2016, 03:49:00 PM
I've always been under the impression the ignition key fitted the panniers and lockable glove box (mine does all that), so why would jf3000 need to have a blank key cut? Or am I missing something here?
ST1300 OEM topbox has a different key.  It's small, and the blank is common.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: West Aussie Glen on January 10, 2016, 08:46:29 PM
I've always been under the impression the ignition key fitted the panniers and lockable glove box (mine does all that), so why would jf3000 need to have a blank key cut? Or am I missing something here?
By "back pannier" I think jf3000 is talking about his top box.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: JuST Peter on January 10, 2016, 09:13:49 PM
I've always been under the impression the ignition key fitted the panniers and lockable glove box (mine does all that), so why would jf3000 need to have a blank key cut? Or am I missing something here?
By "back pannier" I think jf3000 is talking about his top box.
That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 12, 2016, 05:45:24 PM
Top, back I dont know what its called..... The box behind me :)
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: West Aussie Glen on January 12, 2016, 07:13:41 PM
That is the one. Right and left panniers and a top box.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 13, 2016, 02:39:04 AM
Phewww, now to get that damn key out. Now come across a new issue, bike needs a new service. The bike doesn't start. I have to go to neutral to start to be able to ride, weird.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Biggles on January 13, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
The bike doesn't start. I have to go to neutral to start to be able to ride, weird.

Not weird- it's the side stand inhibit switch.  Won't let you start the bike in gear with the stand down so you don't do the klutz thing and ride off with a dangling side-stand.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 13, 2016, 11:44:23 PM
How easy is that to get replaced, is it something I could remove, or a mech is required?
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Brock on January 14, 2016, 12:41:07 AM
Sidestand switch is easily removed.

Remove left rear fairing, Undo plug just above gear lever (you cant miss it it should be at eye level as you squat.

undo bolt on front of sidestand, switch assy should now pop off.

refit in reverse order.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: jf3000 on January 14, 2016, 01:04:32 AM
Anywhere online i can order that part, anywhere from here the price seems to go up about $200
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: STroppy on January 14, 2016, 04:50:53 AM
Phewww, now to get that damn key out.

Hmmmm . . . As many have already said . . . Take it to a proper locksmith . .
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: Biggles on January 14, 2016, 08:36:50 AM
How easy is that to get replaced, is it something I could remove, or a mech is required?

I'm assuming you've got the side stand up and the clutch lever in when you try to start...
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: West Aussie Glen on January 14, 2016, 09:26:33 AM
As far as I know the Honda top boxes are made by Givi so take a look here:-

http://www.xrv.org.uk/forums/mechanical-advice/38455-snapped-bloody-key-my-givi-top-box.html (http://www.xrv.org.uk/forums/mechanical-advice/38455-snapped-bloody-key-my-givi-top-box.html)

or search the web.
Title: Re: Pannier Back Key lock replacement
Post by: alans1100 on January 14, 2016, 04:48:56 PM
How easy is that to get replaced, is it something I could remove, or a mech is required?

I'm assuming you've got the side stand up and the clutch lever in when you try to start...
I just leave mine parked in neutral (unless on a slope); lot less hassle that way.

Sometimes to make sure the side stand and emergency switches work I use them to stop the motor with the bike in gear.