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Honda ST1100 Section => Honda ST1100 General Questions => Topic started by: Silky on September 17, 2013, 03:58:58 PM

Title: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Silky on September 17, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
Can anyone tell me how much is held in the reserve tank and how far is it good for .

Somewhere I think I heard that the ST could do 500 k on a tank full (with a tail wind ) how close is this to true ?   :blk13
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Biggles on September 17, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
It will actually do 550 with nil wind.
The reserve light comes on when you have enough fuel for 95 km at 100 kph.  It's about 5 litres.  The odd things is, I nearly always see 4 litres remaining after 25 km with the low level light flashing. 
I work on one litre unusable, but I believe it is less than that.
Having said all that, the computer is not very consistent.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: saaz on September 17, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
There is no computer on the ST1100 Biggles (well the ecu is a bit like one)

There is no reserve tank on the ST1100, but if the fuel light works that comes on with 4 litres or so left (mine has never worked so I don't know).  You might get 500kms on a great day, but it varies among bikes.  I try and notice what distance I have done at the various fuel gauge marks and work out if it is a normal, better or worse than average fuel range.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Biggles on September 17, 2013, 04:05:52 PM
While there is no "reserve tank", I believe the light comes on when the top tank of an ST1300 is empty and only the lower tank has fuel remaining.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: sargent on September 17, 2013, 04:34:36 PM
My trustee STeed got 490 klms on the way home from the Grey Gum Cafe Ride......

Filled up at Windsor, rode to Ye Old Cafe and back to Canberra via the Cement Path....

Sat on 1:20 wherever possible and still had fuel left, no lights came on so im gunna say that dont work either.

Maybe the White models just get better fuel economy.... :nahnah
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Streak on September 17, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
yep best tank of fuel I have achieved out of my 1996 ST1100 is 565km out of a tank, and that was two up with teela.

but as a rule i get around 520-530 a TANK no worries
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Bikebear on September 17, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
On the Southern Cross Run over a distance of 4100 kms I did roughly 21km/l  so that works out to 588kms plus if I could use the whole tank. In reality I have never run it this low but have hit 470 then put 22 litres in the tank so I had 6 litres left.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Silky on September 17, 2013, 05:02:50 PM
Great response guys thanks ... can I bend this thread to tell you about me ending up with CR9EH-9 spark plugs instead of CR8EH-9 which the auto parts store didn't have .

My workshop manual says that for prolonged high speed riding use the CR9EH-9 and we are going across the Nullabor so that would be pretty prolonged  :runyay

I am having all sorts of bother with my headlight globe high/low beam side ... a bit special it seems , any clues where to get one ?

Honda in Bunbury maybe .
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Biggles on September 17, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
Great response guys thanks ... can I bend this thread to tell you about me ending up with CR9EH-9 spark plugs instead of CR8EH-9 which the auto parts store didn't have .

"9s" work fine.  I've got them in Irridium.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: alans1100 on September 17, 2013, 07:13:15 PM
Great response guys thanks ... can I bend this thread to tell you about me ending up with CR9EH-9 spark plugs instead of CR8EH-9 which the auto parts store didn't have .


I've done that trip a few times on my 1100 using OEM plugs.

As for fuel range, this year I've averaged 17.1 kms/litre giving just under 480km for tank (filled to the brim) but in since I've had the bike I've usually managed 400kms to the fuel light (no longer working) and that's what I work on.


Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Shiney on September 17, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
The 1990 ST1100 I used to own got 420 till empty :eek
But that was all stop, start traffic, carrying me (120kg) + whatnot (??kg) ... and accelerating hard off the lights (I love that feeling :runyay)

So (as the low fuel light didn't work) I worked on this figure being the worst fuel consumption I was likely to encounter :thumbsup

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: West Aussie Glen on September 17, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
Can anyone tell me how much is held in the reserve tank and how far is it good for .

Somewhere I think I heard that the ST could do 500 k on a tank full (with a tail wind ) how close is this to true ?   :blk13

Next time you get close to the reserve take a 5 litre jerry can full of petrol with you and ride until your bike stops. Then fill it slowly and see when the reserve light goes out.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Yorkie on September 17, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
My light comes on at around 480k, having said that on the Border Run Wombat and STRay using ultimate and me using standard fuelled up together at Balladonia after Norseman, Turtle said we were all within half a litre.
Ray went from Ceduna to Port Augusta on 1 tank going to Middleton, don't know the distance but google will tell you.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: alans1100 on September 17, 2013, 11:22:34 PM

Ray went from Ceduna to Port Augusta on 1 tank going to Middleton, don't know the distance but google will tell you.

I've done that towing a trailer at night coming back from the west (camped near Iron knob at 1 or 2 am) and made into Port Augusta using 27.44 litres for 470.1 kms. I had 10 litres spare fuel but never needed it.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Pezzz on September 17, 2013, 11:40:14 PM
My light came on today at 420km. 170 was country riding around York and the rest city stop start. 2000 ST1100P 50000km on clock. Hope this helps :-)

Sent from somewhere using something on my phone :-)

Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Wombat on September 18, 2013, 10:50:06 AM
Following on from Yorkies comment I get to about 450K's till the light and usually 23 lts.  :wink1  I use premium fuel with standard plugs 8 I think. Yorkie runs Iridium plugs and standard fuel. On the border run he had exactly the same fuel economy as me to within 0.1 lts per 450 K's except I put standard in at the Border and used 3 extra litres.   :eek Go figure  :think1 I think I might be more rotund and less streamlined though. That leaves it open for comment  :fp.

 :wht11
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Silky on September 18, 2013, 12:39:01 PM
I think the state of tune / synchronization of the 4 carbies may also effect the distance per tank of motion lotion  :Whipped plus the wrist action and wind strength not to mention the corpulent rider on the beast's back :rofl
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Wombat on September 18, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
corpulent  :think1 and I thought that was a compliment  :Whipped
 :wht11
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Brock on September 18, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
I have been kepping records for several years now, so when I got the bike, I started with 98 octane as that was what I used on the ZZR1100. After a couple of months, I tried standard ULP to see the difference. Well the difference was marked, in that the Ks per dollar went up using ULP, there was no difference in range, performance or Ks/litre, so have been using ULP since.

This year the furthest on a tank that I have done is 441.9Ks, using 24.36 litres. This equates to 23.4Ks per litre or 67.96 real MPG. The best calculated range to empty is 669Ks, with the light coming on at 549 Ks supposedly.

These distances actual and calculated are for a long distance run at 110-120Ks constant travel in open country, using 28 liters as the tank size, and 23liters for the light coming on.

One day I will pack a 5litre can and ride til I stop.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: STeveo on September 18, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
[ I think I might be more rotund and less streamlined though. quote]

The amount of 'clobber' you have tied to the bike definately effects the wind resistance, and therefore fuel economy.

 :bl11
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: alans1100 on September 18, 2013, 06:39:07 PM
I have been kepping records for several years now, so when I got the bike, I started with 98 octane as that was what I used on the ZZR1100. After a couple of months, I tried standard ULP to see the difference. Well the difference was marked, in that the Ks per dollar went up using ULP, there was no difference in range, performance or Ks/litre, so have been using ULP since.

This year the furthest on a tank that I have done is 441.9Ks, using 24.36 litres. This equates to 23.4Ks per litre or 67.96 real MPG. The best calculated range to empty is 669Ks, with the light coming on at 549 Ks supposedly.

.

One day I will pack a 5litre can and ride til I stop.

Sorry Brock, I'm not sure what mathematical system your using but the figures you gave only gave me 18.140 kms/litre which gives about 51mpg

Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Brock on September 18, 2013, 06:43:47 PM
better check my spread sheet, or eyes. maybe some US litres got in there.

 :||||

That should have read best economy this year was 23.9Ks/L, or 67.96 (Imp) MPG
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Yorkie on September 18, 2013, 08:56:17 PM
My light came on today at 420km. 170 was country riding around York and the rest city stop start. 2000 ST1100P 50000km on clock. Hope this helps :-)

Sent from somewhere using something on my phone :-)
Pezzz, you were in York and didn't contact me, shame on you.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Pezzz on September 18, 2013, 10:04:54 PM
My light came on today at 420km. 170 was country riding around York and the rest city stop start. 2000 ST1100P 50000km on clock. Hope this helps :-)

Sent from somewhere using something on my phone :-)
Pezzz, you were in York and didn't contact me, shame on you.

Sorry Yorkie, started off as just brekky at Dome Mundaring...  then ended up as a quick slip up to Lake Leschenaultia ...   Then noticed fuel low so figured a fill up at The Lakes was in order....  noticed only 45km to York.....  i could hear the Triumph Cafe calling ...  :-)
Then back home via Spencer's Brook ......

Just tried to add pics but said something went wrong and was told to contact an administrator .......
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Pezzz on September 18, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
OK so it let me add 1 photo... Had a couple from York too... Will work on that...

Sent from somewhere using something on my phone :-)

Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Pezzz on September 18, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
Amazing what you find when you read the very first post in the " newbies read this first" post...
 :o  now I know what a " :cuss 'n end user" feels like...
 :spank
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Rodd on September 28, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
I usually start looking for a servo around 380k's on a trip. I know that there's a fair bit left but I get the feeling I'd be hard pressed to get 500k's out of my tank. I'm just going to have to try a long run one day and carry some fuel with me so I can test the safe range.

It sounds like a good idea to drain the tank and then see how much fuel it takes (for my bike) to turn the low fuel light off.

Just wondering where the 28 litres capacity comes from. I assume that is how much fuel it takes to get an empty tank to the bottom of the fill tube. When people say they're getting ??k's to a fill.. is that from the bottom of the fill tube, or filling the tank to the brim?
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Brock on September 28, 2013, 06:49:30 PM
The manual says the tank capacity is 28 litres, with approx 5 litres left at the orange light. I usually fill as full as I can get it, most I have put in is 27.5 litres
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: alans1100 on September 28, 2013, 07:24:36 PM
Generally as much as will go in as I fill up after I leave home on the way out. My fuel light no longer works (faulty sensor on pump) but 24 litres was the norm for a fill up at that point (to the brim) for 400 kms (+/- 10 kms usually) riding solo.

With the trailer I'd be looking at filling around the 300 to 350 km mark but I usually take spare fuel (20 litres) when doing trips like the Nullarbor.

It is possible to calibrate the fuel guage  http://www.pan-europe.utvinternet.ie/guides/recalibrate_your_fuel_gauge.htm (http://www.pan-europe.utvinternet.ie/guides/recalibrate_your_fuel_gauge.htm)
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Snake on September 28, 2013, 09:11:57 PM
The best that I've done is 550kms then put 26 lts into the tank.  Wanted to go further but wouldn't have made the next servo and didn't feel like walking.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Pezzz on September 28, 2013, 11:21:32 PM
Riding to Kalbarri today I got 425 km from full to the last white line. Still had gap then red to go. Fuel light was not on and I know that the light worked last week  :||||
Met up with Winston66 today. Had a chat and some food and an all round great day.
2000 ST1100p ... I think the colour gives it more range
 :wht11 :wht11 :wht11
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: pedroperth on January 15, 2023, 12:17:31 PM
 :bl11
I know it’s an old post but better late than never.
I regularly get 20km/litre with a mix of city and country cruising. Usually 2 up.
my bike is a standard 98 model 1100 with the exception of staintune slip ons.
I don’t ride particularly hard but also dont worry about economy. managed to get 420km on 21litres yesterday.
Considering the size and weight of the St the fuel economy is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: ruSTynutz on January 15, 2023, 12:54:32 PM
Welcome pedroperth!  :beer

I believe one member (Kev Murphy) regularly gets 600+k's out of a tank on his ST1100.
I wish my 1300 was even close to being that economical!

Being a "newbie" you may like to introduce yourself to the forum here: http://ozstoc.com/index.php?board=14.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?board=14.0) or not...lol.

Cheers  :beer
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: Nigel on January 15, 2023, 05:39:19 PM
Wow, a 10-year-old post. When I had my Ex pol 1100, was running 3.9 per hun. It was an 04 dead stock. Current Bav 5 per hun. A bigger tank would be better but, plenty of servos around.
Take care >
Title: Re: Fuel range / capacities
Post by: DaleAP on January 19, 2023, 01:01:47 PM
Having just gone to Melbourne and back from Brisbane, my '95 ST was acheiving around 5.7 litres per hundred kms. I had the fuel light come on a couple of times and re-fueled with 460 kms travelled, and there was still 2 litres in the tank. And that was with some pretty severe headwinds.