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Title: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on May 07, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
Well today I embarked on installing Xenon H4 Bulbs into My ST1100, i have read much about it, had lots of advice, and i still found myself swearing and lost, but hey that's the fun of doing work yourself!

I have had advice on going in from the top or bottom, both ways sound quiet simple, i tried from the bottom, but i struggled to get the Plugs out, so i then went in from the top, which involves you having to remove the Screen, the outer Plastic below the screen, and the plastic underneath that.

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/134.jpg)

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/IMG_0675.jpg)

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/IMG_0676.jpg)

I was still having trouble getting them out, so much googling, and phone calls to Saaz & Alans1100, and it was simply i was not being rough enough to get it out, you have to just work it side to side till the plug comes out.

with the rubber covers you need to just get a decent grip on them and they pop off

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/IMG_0677.jpg)

I getting the bulbs out is really simple, a great peice of advice from Saaz is a mirror and a torch, so you can see for yourself what you are dealing with, but simply, push in the wire as shown below and click out it comes, both sides are the same.

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/HeadlightRetainerClip.jpg)

 I pulled out the Xenon lights, and trimmed the tabs off, and slotted the aftermarket sleeves over the top, i found that trying to pop them in on the bulbs was a touch tricky, so i just put a dab of sticky stuff on them and slotted them straight in to the slots in the headlight itself, clicked the wire back over the top, quick test before i put the boots and the overs back on, and we are good to go!

my photo's didn't turn out very well so i have robbed these couple of diagram that i found on the net

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/trimmingtabs.jpg)

as for the differnce i took a couple of before and after shots so you can judge for yourself, but i am pleased with how it came out, and the change from the yellow to the white:

BEFORE

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/IMG_0674.jpg)


AFTER

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/IMG_0679.jpg)




Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: walton on May 07, 2012, 09:23:28 PM
Good job. I've got a set of xenon globes in the shed that I've been meaning to drop in. Although, I think 90/100 might be a bit much. I bit of eBaying will fix that. I'm just wondering where exactly you get the adaptor rings from. A quick google (although I don't know what I'm looking for) proves they're made of unobtanium.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 07, 2012, 09:24:09 PM
Well done where did you get the shims?
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 07, 2012, 09:31:48 PM
I've seen them in a few places usually around $12.95 a pair but they want $40 to post them
http://www.electricalconnection.com/non-electrical/h4_shim.htm (http://www.electricalconnection.com/non-electrical/h4_shim.htm)
& here:
http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc? (http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 07, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
I just ordered a pair from California Sport Touring cost A$ 12.75  :)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on May 07, 2012, 09:42:34 PM
Well done where did you get the shims?


This Is who I got them through:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-Bulb-Adapter-Rings-Honda-ST-1100-1300-ST1300-ST1100-/380436426163?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5893c72db3#ht_665wt_922 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-Bulb-Adapter-Rings-Honda-ST-1100-1300-ST1300-ST1100-/380436426163?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5893c72db3#ht_665wt_922)

Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2012, 09:43:50 PM
I got mine from eBay, but I found the bulbs seated better without them.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Shiney on May 08, 2012, 03:48:03 AM
Nicely done :-++
It looks awesome  :thumb
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: gerd on May 08, 2012, 09:56:29 AM
Super job, Streak. My ST1100 already had the shims in from the previous owner which was handy.

 :dred11
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on May 08, 2012, 11:55:25 AM
Great job there Streak. I did notice that you lights seemed on the yellow side (but next to Diesel's 55w HIDs anything would look dim), so should be far better now.  I used Philips Vision plus bulbs before going HID.  You used to be able to get 100/55 bulbs which were good as the headlight did not get too warm around town, but on the highway using high beam there was enough wind to keep the headlight cooler.  On my Suzuki it was so easy to change bulbs that I used 130/90 for night trips and put in a normal bulb for normal riding, but the reflector was metal..
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: royst1100 on May 11, 2012, 06:23:57 PM
hey streak have you trialed the Xenons at night yet and are you happy
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Bikebear on May 11, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
Got me a set of Xenon bulbs so now I might be able to make use of the shims I bought months ago.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on May 11, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
hey streak have you trialed the Xenons at night yet and are you happy

I will be giving mine a test out on a far ride in two weeks, everything I have seen so far have been very good though.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 13, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
I'm awaiting delivery of mine then I'll be real nice to Malcolm who's going to help me fit them
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Malcolm6112 on May 13, 2012, 11:03:02 PM
Quote
I'm awaiting delivery of mine then I'll be real nice to Malcolm who's going to help me fit them

Mate.

 :blu13
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on May 14, 2012, 07:08:37 PM
hey streak have you trialed the Xenons at night yet and are you happy

 :thumbsup I've been running them for a few years now, wouldn't have anything else. A much whiter and better light output ( along with my HID spotties! )
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: alans1100 on May 14, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
hey streak have you trialed the Xenons at night yet and are you happy

Mine are a little whiter at 6000k and compared to my Territory low beam the  :bl11 is on par.

High beam is another matter but having returned from Adeaide on Saturday evening the  :bl11 high beam was more than ample for 110kmh highway state limit.



Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
ok
 i am new to this post, 1999 ST1100 A Gold 50th anniversary
what globes, fittings etc  do i need to buy
any one want to combine order and shipping
maybe Streak can send all members broadcast ?
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 03:11:25 PM
just bought 5 sets of lock rings from Canada
extras available at my cost
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
ok
what bulbs
xenons  or hid  what does that mean ???
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Brock on May 15, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
Xenon bulbs are a plop in replacement for the standard bulbs, HID are a replacement lighting systen that connects into the existing wiring, (with a bit of tinkering and swearing) and uses special high intensity bulbs
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
I've seen them in a few places usually around $12.95 a pair but they want $40 to post them
[url]http://www.electricalconnection.com/non-electrical/h4_shim.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.electricalconnection.com/non-electrical/h4_shim.htm[/url])
& here:
[url]http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?[/url] ([url]http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?[/url])


i paid a $1:70 us for the postage on 5 sets
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 03:59:49 PM
Xenon bulbs are a plop in replacement for the standard bulbs, HID are a replacement lighting systen that connects into the existing wiring, (with a bit of tinkering and swearing) and uses special high intensity bulbs


so by that i go for xenon ??

did you see my EM to you
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on May 15, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
As Brock said, but I type slow.

Xenons refer to normal looking H4 bulbs that are more efficient than standard halogen H4s, so perform better.  So you can just fit them to the bike with little drama.  Similar power draw to other H4 bulbs.

HIDs are the real xenon lights, but you need a quite different setup.  On a proper H4 setup the bulbs are in a container that the bulb moves around in to give you hi/lo beam. You also need ballasts (these convert 12v to much higher voltage needed by the HID bulbs) to power the bulbs - one ballast per bulb (ballast is the size of two cigarette packets).  There should also be a separate power harness to power up the HIDs , that goes from the battery with its own fuse. So the HIDs are essentially a parallel lighting system to the normal Honda wiring, just like when you add driving lights.  One of the original Honda light plugs is used to supply the hi/lo signal to the HIDs. HIDs are far more efficient than Xenons or normal H4 halogens, putting out a lot more light per watt you put into them (say around double).  Down side - may be a bit bright on reflective signs, beam pattern may not be as good as the H4 bulbs.

So simply - Xenon H4 bulbs mean not much change to the Honda lighting system. HIDs mean a more serious upgrade but with benefits (longer bulb life, far more output, less power draw for more illumination).  I have tried better H4 bulbs in the ST11 and they are definitely worth it.  If you do more night driving the HID setup may be worth considering.

I have HID headlights and HID spotlights.  Again, the spotlights with better bulbs in them were a great improvement - just depends on how far you want to go.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
thanx Saaz   ( Paul )
a good answer to my question
you make sense out of it
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on May 15, 2012, 05:49:36 PM
I am a John (Paul and Dave are those other ones)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 15, 2012, 06:49:35 PM
i bet you told me at 1st nat. you were a paul
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on May 15, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
I bet not (not that Paul is not a great name!)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 15, 2012, 08:39:48 PM
I am a John (Paul and Dave are those other ones)
I've heard of John Paul but not John Paul Dave
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Biggles on May 15, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
I bet not (not that Paul is not a great name!)

Come on Saaz, you've forgotten one of your aliases.  Harieg remembers stuff.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on May 15, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
I bet not (not that Paul is not a great name!)

Come on Saaz, you've forgotten one of your aliases.  Harieg remembers stuff.

He might. Except I can't so I just use the same aliasis everywhere.  I am trying not to insult a few Pauls here..now Daves are a different matter.....a new article on diesel (as opposed to Diesel) and refueling soon to appear...,.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Biggles on May 15, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
He might. Except I can't so I just use the same aliasis everywhere.  I am trying not to insult a few Pauls here..now Daves are a different matter.....a new article on diesel (as opposed to Diesel) and refueling soon to appear...,.

... in a new topic, I trust, since this one has been comprehensively  :hijacked
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Brock on May 15, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
Good point Biggles,

Back on the Light track gents, or  a few john/paul/Harieg/Daves or wot evas will be smitten Smited :well :well
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 16, 2012, 07:24:51 AM
wasn't it John Paul Jones who said "It aint necessarily so"

or another member of the band ???
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 16, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
No that was Normie Rowe
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Brock on May 16, 2012, 09:04:58 AM
You were warned,

harieg and Scarp report to the SinBin for a smiting....

 :spank :spank :spank :spank
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 16, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Sorry dad
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on May 16, 2012, 07:38:48 PM
Just to get back on track (if only for a little while) I got my shims today
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on May 17, 2012, 08:13:52 AM
ow ow ow ow

come on that's enough PUNISHMENT. 

i am sorry
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 04:14:17 PM
WHO purchased the very cheap globes for about $1:50  ??
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 04:17:39 PM
WHO purchased the very cheap globes for about $1:50  ??


the first lot they bought didn't include post, the second lot the price did include post
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: alans1100 on June 01, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
Mine where cheap, About $7 delivered found on E-bay.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 04:47:16 PM
thanx "A"

someone said the 1st lot didn't include post
BUT the 2nd lot did


any problem with these globes if i buy some ??
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12V-H4-XENON-HALOGEN-100W-White-Headlights-Car-GLOBES-BULBS-6000K-Headlamp-/110841606837?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19ceacb2b5 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12V-H4-XENON-HALOGEN-100W-White-Headlights-Car-GLOBES-BULBS-6000K-Headlamp-/110841606837?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19ceacb2b5)

cheap doesn't matter, they are a throw away item anyway
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 05:11:59 PM
taking the post back to SHIMS
i purchased 5 pairs from Canada, they were shipped from Hungary ?
they were VERY CHEAP
postage was ONLY $1:70     ???

i am going to do the same with bulbs
5 pair, then Ozstoc blokes can take up my offer

"A"  were your bulbs, the ones described as 100W  ?? as per that link
i now have a 2nd link, Diff.  supplier
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Brock on June 01, 2012, 05:15:29 PM
Those 100 watters could be a bit hot for the enclosure harieg
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on June 01, 2012, 05:19:58 PM
Those bulbs are 100/90W ones, so may run a bit hot around town.  I haven't used them in the ST11, but in a single headlight they did run noticeably hotter, so I kept them for highway riding.  100/55 was a good compromise for town/highway, and 130/90 even better for highway.  Someone may have actually used them in the ST11, but I suspect that they would run rather hot with the twin bulbs on, so reflector life may be compromised.  I would be glad to to shown to be wrong, as they would make a cheap lighting upgrade.

  The life of those higher wattage bulbs is also shorter, as I had many go in the low beam, but that was on a headlight that took a few minutes to change the bulb.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 05:47:58 PM
good answer "B" and "S"
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: alans1100 on June 01, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
Harieg,

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120750010337?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120750010337?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

These are mine, not sure what the difference the colour makes on the globe tip but mine are grey and they are 60/55w H4 Xenon.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 09:24:15 PM
thanx "A"  that's the answer i was looking for, especially the 60/55
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
"A"
did you get 2 blue tip
or
2 grey tip
or
1 of each

the site says they ship MIXED
so if i buy 5 pair (10) bulbs
i may be lucky and get even numbers
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 09:46:14 PM
"A"
i have just redead the ebay link

it says they are HID     ????
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Brock on June 01, 2012, 09:52:44 PM
They apparently have the same bluish tint that HID have H, and are not HID as such. so all you do is pop em in.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: scarp on June 01, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
They apparently have the same bluish tint that HID have H, and are not HID as such. so all you do is pop em in.
Well after you trim the lower tabs off that is :-)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 01, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
ok
i had better buy 5 pairs
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: alans1100 on June 01, 2012, 11:18:06 PM
"A"
did you get 2 blue tip
or
2 grey tip
or
1 of each

the site says they ship MIXED
so if i buy 5 pair (10) bulbs
i may be lucky and get even numbers

I got two grey tips but I believe you should get a pair of the same. He does sell them as a single item but the pair is cheaper.

It's says HID but they aren't and he would not be alone in the way they are described as well.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on June 02, 2012, 07:16:00 AM
thanx again "A"
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on June 18, 2012, 10:35:09 PM
I am really happy with the improvement of the bulbs, can't wait to add the Hella HID's as well and then I will be set for night riding!
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 13, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
just purchased 5 sets of XENON'S from that Hong Kong link
now need an able bodied man to help me fit 1 pair to
1999 ST1100 A Gold 50th anniversary

any volunteers ????????????????
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on July 13, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
just purchased 5 sets of XENON'S from that Hong Kong link
now need an able bodied man to help me fit 1 pair to
1999 ST1100 A Gold 50th anniversary

any volunteers ????????????????

Harie i am home with the kids toomorrow, and teela is working till 4 if you wanted to come down and i will give you a hand seeing i have just done this, i am sure we can bugger it all up together

only thing that might beat us is the weather...
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 13, 2012, 03:37:51 PM
Thanx " G "
but i am flagging at Lakeside tomorrow
maybe i'll make the TREK next week
will keep in touch

also have spare rings and bulbs for use lots
at my cost ONLY
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Bikebear on July 15, 2012, 01:20:42 PM
Just put the new H4 bulbs in, the first took a few minutes because working by feel can be a little complicated however the second took bugger all time since I knew what I was doing. All I have to do now is get a new tyre fitted and go for a ride at night to test them out.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 15, 2012, 04:05:02 PM
let me know " BB "
Shiney is going to fit a pair as well
did you use Streaks method ??
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Bikebear on July 15, 2012, 04:28:25 PM
 | did it from underneath. Just checked Streaks pics and I see his bike doesn't have the big module above the lights mine has, my '99 doesn't have enough room to go from the top.

 Remove the black plastic panel under the front fairing, reach under and you can fairly easily get to the back of the lights. At the bottom of the rubber 'seal' that is on the back of the light there is a tab, grab this and pull back, this will let the rubber come off, feel for the spring clip that holds the bulb in, you'll need to push this clip towards the front and move it sideways to undo it. Once the bulb is free pull it out with the connector attached. Remove the connector from the bulb by pulling it, hold the bulb firmly as the connector is a tight fit. When replacing the bulb with a H4 using the adapter rings bend the small fingers at the bottom (where the cutout is) out slightly to keep the spacer from falling off, I also used pliers to squeeze the adapter and the bulb base together which made it one unit. Fit the bulb into the light housing first and put the clip back over, then fit the rubber seal and finally plug the connector on.

The clip can be a bit fiddly but once you've worked out one the second is easy.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 15, 2012, 04:32:28 PM
thanx

hey " G" is this the same as your method

"BB " any pics
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Bikebear on July 15, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
No pics sorry. I really need to remember to take pics when I do stuff   >:()
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: alans1100 on July 15, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
| did it from underneath. Just checked Streaks pics and I see his bike doesn't have the big module above the lights mine has, my '99 doesn't have enough room to go from the top.

 Remove the black plastic panel under the front fairing, reach under and you can fairly easily get to the back of the lights. At the bottom of the rubber 'seal' that is on the back of the light there is a tab, grab this and pull back, this will let the rubber come off, feel for the spring clip that holds the bulb in, you'll need to push this clip towards the front and move it sideways to undo it. Once the bulb is free pull it out with the connector attached. Remove the connector from the bulb by pulling it, hold the bulb firmly as the connector is a tight fit. When replacing the bulb with a H4 using the adapter rings bend the small fingers at the bottom (where the cutout is) out slightly to keep the spacer from falling off, I also used pliers to squeeze the adapter and the bulb base together which made it one unit. Fit the bulb into the light housing first and put the clip back over, then fit the rubber seal and finally plug the connector on.

The clip can be a bit fiddly but once you've worked out one the second is easy.

That's the the easiest way for me to do it as well. But I pull the connector off the globe before I pull the rubber seal off. Gives you more room  when doing the spring clip.

Good tip about bending the lower globe locating tabs. My LH goes in as easy as but the RH spacer keeps falling off.

Wonder what's different between yours and mine apart from the colour and a badge or two as they are both '99 A models
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on July 15, 2012, 05:41:28 PM
Using a mirror works wonders in terms at looking how that spring clip works.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Bikebear on July 15, 2012, 06:40:00 PM


That's the the easiest way for me to do it as well. But I pull the connector off the globe before I pull the rubber seal off. Gives you more room  when doing the spring clip.

Good tip about bending the lower globe locating tabs. My LH goes in as easy as but the RH spacer keeps falling off.

Wonder what's different between yours and mine apart from the colour and a badge or two as they are both '99 A models

The only difference is badging and the colour. I have heard that there were only 40 of the 50th anniversary gold models released in Australia by Honda in total so they are fairly uncommon.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on July 15, 2012, 10:19:24 PM
Using a mirror works wonders in terms at looking how that spring clip works.

Agreed on that one! Was a great trick saaz
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 28, 2012, 10:49:03 PM
" SO "
if you want the be all to end all on xenon globe fitting
you must get Shiney

he will add the text

here are the PIC's

does look good
will test and advise

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or  ????

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Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Shiney on July 31, 2012, 08:39:59 AM
I met up with Harieg on Saturday to change the light bulbs on his 1100 and my 1300 :blu13 (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/Bikebear/Gold1100.gif)

I had previously changed the light bulbs on my old 1100 by turning the steering and reaching down past the dash next to the handlebars to access them, so I thought it would be easy, but as Harieg’s 1100 is an ABS model there are cables in the way on the right hand side :||||

So we decided the easiest way would be to access the area from underneath

Under the lights on the 1100 there was a plastic plate that was removed (held in with 2 screws) and after that it was relatively easy to reach the area.

Pulled the plug off the back of the bulb, then pulled the rubber boot off , then pushed in on the tension wire and moved it to the side releasing the pressure from the bulb.
At that point the bulb slides out. (Repeat for the other side)

For the 1300 it was essentially the same procedure except there wasn’t a plate under the lights to remove. (One of the plugs on my bike was a bit stuck and was a bitch to get out :cuss)

Next got out the new bulbs and snipped off the bottom two tabs, slipped the adapter ring on and squashed the base of the bulb and the ring together with pliers.

At this time the plate was found to be a bit loose :fp so… (At the bottom of the bulb there is a small cut out with 2 little tabs facing up) with the pliers, the tabs on the base of the bulb were bent onto the ring thereby holding it in place.

From here it was just putting it all back together
•   Slipped the bulbs into the light enclosure (feeling around the edge to make sure the tabs are sitting in the matching groves)
•   Pushed the tension wire over the bulb (push on the top of it and slide it to the side to lock it in place)
  Now for the rubber boot,
•   Placed a finger through the hole and held it up to the back of the bulb, felt the 3 prongs from the rear of the bulb and slid the boot on making sure the prongs came through the hole. Pushed around the edge of the boot to get it to sit in place.
•   Plugged the power plug on the bulb and replaced any bodywork that was removed.

Then coffee and a smoke, all done :grin
And there we go that was the light change experience at Harieg’s shop :thumb

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 31, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
thanx Shiney  ((Dave)) an exceptional write up
no Carol to look over our shoulder

so that is why it " DID NOT " go as easy as he try's to make you believe

BUT the end result is just great
white light  yes it is not blue
but far and away better the the standard Honda yellow

again a BIG thanx to Shiney
i would have given up after trying to remove the rubber boot
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on July 31, 2012, 07:22:30 PM
AND it is my 2nd of three training days this weekend ((Sat.)) with the H.A.R.T.
and gold coast city council,

learning how to ride my ST1100
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Shiney on August 01, 2012, 06:07:42 AM
thanx Shiney  ((Dave)) an exceptional write up
no Carol to look over our shoulder

so that is why it " DID NOT " go as easy as he try's to make you believe

BUT the end result is just great
white light  yes it is not blue
but far and away better the the standard Honda yellow

again a BIG thanx to Shiney
i would have given up after trying to remove the rubber boot

No worries mate, happy to help :thumbs

They are awesome, much better light :thumb :blu13

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on October 24, 2012, 03:32:34 PM
Thanks to the info on here, I just managed to change mty blown headlight bulb without too much trouble.

Thanks guys for being a mine of information  :thumb
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on October 24, 2012, 03:37:30 PM
Just out of interest, was it the left bulb that went in the ST13?  It seems that it is prone to going far more often. Theories debated include that there is higher voltage to that side, which may reduce bulb life.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on October 24, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
Just out of interest, was it the left bulb that went in the ST13?  It seems that it is prone to going far more often. Theories debated include that there is higher voltage to that side, which may reduce bulb life.

If you're asking me, I have the ST11, and yes, it was the left bulb
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on October 24, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
Ooops..had a brain fade.  Well, I like you a lot better now lol!
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on October 24, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
Ooops..had a brain fade.  Well, I like you a lot better now lol!

What wasn't to like before???????  :well :well :well :well :well
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on October 26, 2012, 06:41:39 AM
hi sweety
have you read all the earlier posts on xennon bulbs and fitting
a free pair of the blue ones are availiable
IF you ask me     last set

so dont be backward coming forward
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on October 26, 2012, 09:07:55 AM
Hi Harie,

Sounds like an offer too good to refuse :)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on October 26, 2012, 03:46:53 PM
private EM me a postal address
and i'll send the kit next week
ask brad and craig  from central nsw

for a idea of the GIFT
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on November 22, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
I'll be tackling putting the new globes (thanks Harie) in tomorrow.

Got the bike back today from having the clutch looked at, it was slipping intermittently.  Of course, being an intermittent fault, it wouldn't do it when the mechanic took it for a test ride.  He checked the master cylinder and obviously this wasn't checked last time I had it serviced at the local Honda dealer, you should have seen the crap (the report says major debris and sludge) in the master cylinder.  Macca took a pic to show me, no wonder I was having trouble.  Anyway, he rebuilt the master cylinder and flushed the system, and did the same with the brakes at the same time.  I was pleasantly surprised at the bill, just shy of $250  :)  I'll definitely be going back to this guy  :grin :beer not the Honda dealer  :cuss
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on November 22, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
you need to download and STUDY streaks articles

also if you replace the clutch LEVER  you can have a lot more adjustment
and only a 55 seconds job
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Turtle on November 22, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
It's amazing what a good brake and clutch flush can bring out in the lines mine was cruddy also I did mine today with my home one man bleeding tube easy  :thumbsup I use the Red PBR dot 4 brake and clutch only $7 a bottle at supercheap
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on November 22, 2012, 08:40:32 PM
I'll be tackling putting the new globes (thanks Harie) in tomorrow.

Got the bike back today from having the clutch looked at, it was slipping intermittently.  Of course, being an intermittent fault, it wouldn't do it when the mechanic took it for a test ride.  He checked the master cylinder and obviously this wasn't checked last time I had it serviced at the local Honda dealer, you should have seen the crap (the report says major debris and sludge) in the master cylinder.  Macca took a pic to show me, no wonder I was having trouble.  Anyway, he rebuilt the master cylinder and flushed the system, and did the same with the brakes at the same time.  I was pleasantly surprised at the bill, just shy of $250  :)  I'll definitely be going back to this guy  :grin :beer not the Honda dealer  :cuss

after he clussed the system for you, i hope he made time to flush the systemas wee
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on November 22, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
I'll be tackling putting the new globes (thanks Harie) in tomorrow.

Got the bike back today from having the clutch looked at, it was slipping intermittently.  Of course, being an intermittent fault, it wouldn't do it when the mechanic took it for a test ride.  He checked the master cylinder and obviously this wasn't checked last time I had it serviced at the local Honda dealer, you should have seen the crap (the report says major debris and sludge) in the master cylinder.  Macca took a pic to show me, no wonder I was having trouble.  Anyway, he rebuilt the master cylinder and flushed the system, and did the same with the brakes at the same time.  I was pleasantly surprised at the bill, just shy of $250  :)  I'll definitely be going back to this guy  :grin :beer not the Honda dealer  :cuss

after he clussed the system for you, i hope he made time to flush the systemas wee

Hey Harie,
Check your quote, I'd already fixed my typos  :grin
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on November 22, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
NOT QUICK ENOUGH FOR ME
once found NOT forgotten   "  L  "
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Turtle on November 22, 2012, 09:08:59 PM
Honda VFR800 08 fits I have on on mine nice to have hand span adjustment

Good point Harieg on that mod  :thumb
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: harieg on November 23, 2012, 06:09:09 AM
yes thanks to saaz for that point

i had trouble with the st normal
of the take up only in the last few mills

i trust Wendy to do the mod.
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: WendyL on December 21, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
Bump

This should help Kevan. I managed to change mine :)
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Kevan on December 22, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
Perhaps the word we are looking for her Wendy is "Forceful"  :rofl
From the various posts, I would guess you DONT have the ABS / TC model.
I just managed to do mine with a standard H4 globe, lower lugs bent out. The windscreen and top comes off just so you can see what's going on. The ABS/TC module stops you actually putting your hands down from the top. All access is from the underside once the small black plate is removed from beneath the headlight. But I still needed a mirror to see where the retaining spring went, 'cause you're kinda working upside-down and back-to-front..

I'm off Goff -> Off into the night :dred11
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: saaz on December 22, 2012, 09:45:41 PM
ABS model is supposedly harder, if that makes you feel better  >:()
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Kevan on December 22, 2012, 09:49:56 PM
HEEPS..  :spank
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Streak on April 13, 2014, 01:37:25 AM
We are lucky to have an informative forum like we have, I had forgotten that I had done this up, bloody glad I did, made putting the new bulbs in the ST1100 today a breeze, as I had forgotten how to do it  :o
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: excopper on February 18, 2016, 11:39:27 AM
 :bl11 ;-* time had arrived to change out headlights,(down to one low beam)like always when any job has to be done,I always check this forum.
           I decided to go with streak an enter from the top.
removing everything was easy enough.
          the globe's removed where Philips 45/45w. so off I went to local auto shop,only had H4 65w and higher,due to the extra heat they would generate decided to look elsewhere, local busso bike shop over the road, so paid them a visit.they had 45w H4(see photo) $13.90,only the top lug was a fair bit smaller.
couldn't see that this would cause a huge problem, so purchased them,back to shed.
   
          such a simple thing like changing light globes :well turned into a half hour head f#%k.
cant see so everythings done by feel.

         problem,holding the rubber boots out of the way.
         problem,re fitting the wire spring clip.
after some persistence got the job done.

the blick H4 globes went in without cutting,bending or getting shims.all good

I find the 45w globes give plenty ,don't want to burn hole in tarmac  :crackup
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Shiney on February 18, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Good work mate, you'll find it easier next time you have to do it :thumbs

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Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: Grumpy on February 18, 2016, 06:36:42 PM
Just for info in case it helps someone.

The ST1100L, 1990, came with the European headlamp which has a proper H4 socket built in.

Guess which headlamp is now in RhondaG ( ST1100PY 2000 )?

Saves so much ginning around.  :runyay
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: excopper on February 18, 2016, 07:52:50 PM
 :bl11yea right shiney,
                      think the Phillips were the original globes so 111,000ks out of them, if the blicks last as long,dont think I'll need to venture there again. :runyay
Title: Re: Installing Xenon H4 Bulbs (not HID) Honda ST1100
Post by: jt8277 on March 22, 2019, 01:55:12 PM
Hi Folks,

Just thought I would refresh this post a little and tell you all about my installation of '8000K 55W Heavy Duty Fast Bright H4 9003 Bi-Xenon Dual Beams Motorcycle HID Kit' that I purchased from our friends over at eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8000K-55W-Heavy-Duty-Fast-Bright-H4-9003-Bi-Xenon-Dual-Beams-Motorcycle-HID-Kit/152019025614?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8000K-55W-Heavy-Duty-Fast-Bright-H4-9003-Bi-Xenon-Dual-Beams-Motorcycle-HID-Kit/152019025614?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649))

Obviously, with the ST1100 it has 2 globes so you need to buy 2 of the kits above... but I don't think $79 is too bad.  The one best advantage of these and one of the main reasons I bought them was that they are pretty much plug and play.

I didn't fancy taking my bike to bits to wire these in to the battery and after reading this post it would have needed wires extending... not these, they plug directly into the H4 stock plugs, you just need to fiddle getting all the cables tucked away in the front of the bike.

Had the usual issue trying to get the clips undone from the previous globes, wish I had had another look at this post before I started.

All installed and despite a little bit of warm up time, it is so much brighter than the previous globes.  Definitely worth a look for anyone who might be considering the upgrade.

If anyone wants some information, please let me know.  I probably should have photographed the process, but it was much the same as the first post.

J