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The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« on: August 29, 2022, 12:59:53 PM »
Well it all started when I had a st1100.. loved it but had to sell it when moved from Western Australia to Remote NSW. I had lots of adventures, lots of RTE’s and joined the far riding community.

I also learnt how much I detest riding on gravel.. but that’s another story…

So I’d been looking for over a month and resolved myself to the fact I would have to travel to find a new STeed as the only bikes for sale out this way are dirt ones!

I located an interesting st1300 on the east side of Melbourne. With the help of Williamson to share his video I got a chance to eyeball it. A week later I was on 2 planes , 1 bus and an hour train to pick it up.

The plan was simple- pick up the ST , fill it up and ride it home (approx 1000klm). This would give me a great chance to become acquainted with the 13.

Moving through the peak hour traffic felt good.I think the deflectors worked, as I didn’t cook.. or is that because it was only 16 degrees?

As the traffic started moving headed out on the Calder I felt the smoothness ; and played with the electric screen (new novelty)..

I found the lighting terrible after dark; I could read the dash well but found I needed to hug the tail lights of the cars once in the hills.

Pulled into Bendigo for the night. I can recommend the food at the National hotel; but I must say the room wasn’t as cheap as I liked!

Filled up and left in the morning.. it was a nice Spritely 8 degrees. Double checked my math as the fuel consumption seemed too good to be true!

As I got rolling I enjoyed the effortlessness of the st; it overtook freely.

As the mileage set in; my disdain for the seat grew. It’s hard! I thought I had padding; but obviously not enough!

Stopped at Mildura for a stretch and top up and kept going as I wanted to reach home before dusk.

I stopped 120klm south from home at a truck stop at coombah. Word of warning- this has been closed for sometime now meaning the 285klm stretch broken hill to Wentworth has no fuel. I smiled knowing the ST is more than capable in the distance.


Only other hiccup on the trip was 12 emus that took some persuading to get off the road. I had to basically stop and tiptoe through them.

All in all I made home while the sun was still up.

My reflections of the ride are that the ST13 is a nice ride; I just need to fix the lights and seat to make it better :)
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2022, 01:33:19 PM »
Thanks for posting your imprressions.    The common mods seems to be Seat, Screen & Risers, and when I had mine, I certainly found that the OEM seat got uncomfortable pretty quickly.

A common solution to the seat issue can be found here.....   https://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=11369.msg1209319#msg1209319   It works really well, and costs nothing.
Another option is a Sargent seat, whish if flatter and wider, and is what I finished up with.
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2022, 02:21:17 PM »
Thanks for posting your imprressions.    The common mods seems to be Seat, Screen & Risers, and when I had mine, I certainly found that the OEM seat got uncomfortable pretty quickly.

A common solution to the seat issue can be found here.....   https://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=11369.msg1209319#msg1209319   It works really well, and costs nothing.
Another option is a Sargent seat, whish if flatter and wider, and is what I finished up with.

Thanks for suggestion. I’ve adjusted the height up so I’ll see it it makes any difference on way to mannum.
It could just be saddle sore due to being off the bike for a while.. so I may take a cup of cement as well

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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2022, 04:17:00 PM »
Well it all started when I had a st1100.. loved it but had to sell it when moved from Western Australia to Remote NSW. I had lots of adventures, lots of RTE’s and joined the far riding community.

I also learnt how much I detest riding on gravel.. but that’s another story…

So I’d been looking for over a month and resolved myself to the fact I would have to travel to find a new STeed as the only bikes for sale out this way are dirt ones!

I located an interesting st1300 on the east side of Melbourne. With the help of Williamson to share his video I got a chance to eyeball it. A week later I was on 2 planes , 1 bus and an hour train to pick it up.

The plan was simple- pick up the ST , fill it up and ride it home (approx 1000klm). This would give me a great chance to become acquainted with the 13.

Moving through the peak hour traffic felt good.I think the deflectors worked, as I didn’t cook.. or is that because it was only 16 degrees?

As the traffic started moving headed out on the Calder I felt the smoothness ; and played with the electric screen (new novelty)..

I found the lighting terrible after dark; I could read the dash well but found I needed to hug the tail lights of the cars once in the hills.

Pulled into Bendigo for the night. I can recommend the food at the National hotel; but I must say the room wasn’t as cheap as I liked!

Filled up and left in the morning.. it was a nice Spritely 8 degrees. Double checked my math as the fuel consumption seemed too good to be true!

As I got rolling I enjoyed the effortlessness of the st; it overtook freely.

As the mileage set in; my disdain for the seat grew. It’s hard! I thought I had padding; but obviously not enough!

Stopped at Mildura for a stretch and top up and kept going as I wanted to reach home before dusk.

I stopped 120klm south from home at a truck stop at coombah. Word of warning- this has been closed for sometime now meaning the 285klm stretch broken hill to Wentworth has no fuel. I smiled knowing the ST is more than capable in the distance.


Only other hiccup on the trip was 12 emus that took some persuading to get off the road. I had to basically stop and tiptoe through them.

All in all I made home while the sun was still up.

My reflections of the ride are that the ST13 is a nice ride; I just need to fix the lights and seat to make it better :)
 

The lights, yeah not up to the standard expected by many for a long-distance tourer.  I've thought of an upgrade, but as I don't do much night riding, I haven't bothered - but one day.\

Seat, yeah could be better, (as mentioned elsewhere) sit on my RDL and perhaps some others at Mannum. 

The RDL are custom made, I've been told they are tailored to suit height, inside leg, weight, etc..  of rider.  I bought mine 2nd hand from a short, tubby guy (more so than me), it didn't suit him, but was on the ST13 when he bought it.  The guy it was made for must've been similar dimensions to me - 178cm, 85 to 90kg.

 
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2022, 04:40:44 PM »

Custom seats are always hit and miss depending on person…

I saw that there is a gel seat listed as a part for the st13.. they know the seat is uncomfortable!



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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2022, 05:34:32 PM »
Be careful of gel seats, they soak up the suns heat and stay hot for ages.. Mine did anyway.  Iy you have a motor trimmer in town, see if he is able to rework the seat for you..
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2022, 07:12:32 PM »
There wil be plenty of folk at Mannum who can help you with the seat position mod that I posted.   It works a treat.   :thumb
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2022, 08:38:41 PM »
Thanks!

I’m looking forward to seeing how people have configured the 13s..

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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2022, 09:07:56 PM »
Common headlight fix is the h4 mod (search for it). I run philips ecolife bulbs and so far have 60,000km on then so far. "Feels like" double the light, and not as yellow.

Congrats on the new ride  8)
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2022, 09:36:43 PM »
I found the lighting terrible after dark; I could read the dash well but found I needed to hug the tail lights of the cars once in the hills.

I run these in my ST... https://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/philips-x-treme-vision-moto-h4-single
I find them perfectly adequate at legal speeds...  :thumbs


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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2022, 10:59:17 PM »
I find them perfectly adequate at legal speeds...  :thumbs

Legal speeds?  Pffft!
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2022, 11:04:36 PM »
Probably perfectly adequate at illegal speeds too but as I'm a very law abiding citizen, I wouldn't know about that!!!  :p


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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2022, 07:21:24 AM »
Probably perfectly adequate at illegal speeds too but as I'm a very law abiding citizen, I wouldn't know about that!!!  :p

I’m a law abiding citizen.. so suggestion duly noted :)
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2022, 07:47:19 AM »
Common headlight fix is the h4 mod (search for it). I run philips ecolife bulbs and so far have 60,000km on then so far. "Feels like" double the light, and not as yellow.

Congrats on the new ride  8)

Thanks for tip .. !!!
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2022, 08:28:46 AM »
Sargent seat and handlebar risers made a big difference for me
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2022, 08:22:33 PM »
I too recommend the Sargent seat... :thumbs


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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2022, 08:27:25 PM »
Update:

Removed headlight today to find it was a 60/35!!!!!!!!

No wonder I was blind on low beam….

So now I Have acquired  narva 110+ 60/55 for the short term..
But my fingers are too fat to get the lightbulb clips back on  :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2022, 08:34:06 PM »
If you decide to go down the H4 bulb route you might want to buy a pair of the H4 adaptors rings.
You can buy them here: https://www.mccruise.com/pages/h4-adaptor
They aren't a necessity but do make it that little bit easier to seat the bulb in position...

*edit...too late he cried!  :fp


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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2022, 09:00:49 PM »
If you decide to go down the H4 bulb route you might want to buy a pair of the H4 adaptors rings.
You can buy them here: https://www.mccruise.com/pages/h4-adaptor
They aren't a necessity but do make it that little bit easier to seat the bulb in position...

*edit...too late he cried!  :fp

It had the adapter rings already (thankfully)
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2022, 09:02:45 PM »
Update:

Removed headlight today to find it was a 60/35!!!!!!!!

No wonder I was blind on low beam….

So now I Have acquired  narva 110+ 60/55 for the short term..
But my fingers are too fat to get the lightbulb clips back on  :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon

And you need to be a contortionist to get your hands in place to remove and refit the clips.

If you decide to go down the H4 bulb route you might want to buy a pair of the H4 adaptors rings.
You can buy them here: https://www.mccruise.com/pages/h4-adaptor
They aren't a necessity but do make it that little bit easier to seat the bulb in position...

*edit...too late he cried!  :fp


Is it the H4's that need the tabs bent back / off to fit 'em?
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2022, 12:13:17 AM »
Is it the H4's that need the tabs bent back / off to fit 'em?

Yes, well 2 of them anyhow...  :thumbs


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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2022, 07:31:53 AM »
Update:

Removed headlight today to find it was a 60/35!!!!!!!!

No wonder I was blind on low beam….

So now I Have acquired  narva 110+ 60/55 for the short term..
But my fingers are too fat to get the lightbulb clips back on  :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon

Bring 'em to Mannum and someone with experience can help you with the tab trim and fitting them.   No need for the adaptor ring if you trim the tab, but fingers like ET are helpful.
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2022, 07:52:00 AM »
No need for the adaptor ring if you trim the tab, but fingers like ET are helpful.

Mmmm ..... the adaptor ring makes it a tighter fit and more difficult to fit the clip?
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2022, 08:40:38 AM »
So I’m in a bit of a pickle…

Can’t get clip done up. And my fat fingers don’t seem to bend like they should…

I think I’ll try without the adapter ring and see how it goes…  :H
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Re: The New STeed - 1000klm orientation
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2022, 11:07:17 AM »
So I gave up… and decided I was too far in to back out..

Took windscreen and dash out.

Managed to swap bulbs using h4 spacer ring

And also took opportunity to swap the running bulbs  :beer

Now I just hope the bulbs will give decent life as I really didn’t enjoy that!

-although  I know I’ll be doing similar in future to install spotlights .. and I should run the power cables properly at some stage…
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