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ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« on: August 21, 2014, 09:56:53 AM »
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recently when changing my alternator, it was suggested I check the cush rubbers and inserts. after inspection I found that they appeared to worn so I ordered the parts from Partzilla. the parts arrived and I went over to Abe's to deliver his parts we added to the order, to fit the cush rubbers and alloys.
I removed the rear wheel and then removed the plate to reveal the rubbers.4 of which were worn and loose in there position,quite a lot of movement


the inside face where the rubbers sit was also worn and had a lot of rubber and alloy duST caked on

so it was give a good scrub and scrapping to remove it all

under the watchfull eye of our supervisor TC

you can see the wear on the rim now in this pic,

next was to put the alloy thingys into the rubber with out causing to much STress on the rubbers, if you look you will see that one side the rubber wall is thinner so its that side you need to put the alloy peice on firST then push downwards and sideways to get the alloys in, making sure you seat them in fully.a little silicone spray helps.Then place them into the recess in the rim and you will then need to make sure they seat down completely. A gentle tap with a plaSTic mallet will do the job. then making sure you have the cover plate the right way, it is marked 'OUTSIDE" to make sure its correct. It wont go on if its the wrong way because the edges are bevelled to slide into the grooves.

also there are arrows marking the alignment place it down and slide the locators to the next arrow and you will see the bolt holes line up. the hex bolts need to be tensions to 20 Nm when doing them up and a little drop of loctite used.
all together and looking good.

 we also changed the 3 'O' rings in the drive, as you can see  one was flat compared to the new one

and  one had split. this is the three old ones

we greased up the splines and put everything back together and when I rode home I could definitely feel the difference as there was no lag in take off, it became responsive as soon as I twiSTed the throttle where=as B4 there was a slight jolt when taking up the slack from the worn Cush rudders and elongated holes in the alloy inserts.
 A big thanks to Abe for your knowledge and help doing this,, muchly appreciated ++ :clap
 
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Thank you for your recent order at Partzilla.com! Your order summary is below.

 
Order #: 81005450
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41241-MT3-003 RUBBER, RR. (American Honda) $11.74    X5  $58.70 USD
41242-MR5-000 PIECE, DAMPER WHEEL (American Honda) $9.18   X5    $45.90 USD
Shipping & Handling:   $49.99 USD
conversion rate on day of sale .9047  = $159.85 Aussie $$$..

 :think1 from memory Campbelltown Honda STealer quoted $198.. for the parts so I went to USA
Abe also added 10 parts for his ST1300  and total order came in juST under the next postage increase so $$ saved for us both.  :thumbs
« Last Edit: August 22, 2014, 08:42:32 AM by johnnyYTED »
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2014, 11:01:22 AM »
Good clear instructions.  Thanks JohnnyYTED.   :thumb
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 04:51:41 PM »
 Good jobs chaps....... :-++
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 05:26:37 PM »
This is on my to do list so thanks for the write up.
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 05:42:53 PM »
Good clear instructions.  Thanks JohnnyYTED.   :thumb
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« Last Edit: August 21, 2014, 08:29:39 PM by johnnyYTED »
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 06:03:55 PM »
Johnny, you need to change 20 psi to 20 Nm for photo seven :thumb
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 06:06:04 PM »
And isn't that BC that is supervising your work  :grin



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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 06:15:41 PM »
Johnny, you need to change 20 psi to 20 Nm for photo seven :thumb
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thanks Abe Done,,,, :fp   :thumb
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 06:18:00 PM »
And isn't that BC that is supervising your work  :grin



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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 06:56:28 PM »
That's BC :wink1 your right again Pockey  :thumb
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 07:14:38 PM »
So are the 3 O'rings bought as a kit or individually ?? I recall 2 of 3 fit the 1300 as well   :think


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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 07:21:04 PM »
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ST2UP they were part of a bag Abe had, there is 3 sets per bag,,,  :think1 is what he said, and 2 for the ST13
i think I heard
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 08:22:31 PM »
Awesome work guys :clap :clap :clap :runyay :thumbsup
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 08:40:35 AM »
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for those of you looking to get these parts to do your STeed.

Thank you for your recent order at Partzilla.com! Your order summary is below.

 
Order #: 81005450
Date Ordered: 07/19/2014
Payment Method: PAYPAL
Priority International Mail
 https://www.partzilla.com/
 
41241-MT3-003 RUBBER, RR. (American Honda) $11.74    X5  $58.70 USD
41242-MR5-000 PIECE, DAMPER WHEEL (American Honda) $9.18   X5    $45.90 USD
Shipping & Handling:   $49.99 USD
conversion rate on day of sale .9047  = $159.85 Aussie $$$..

 :think1 from memory Campbelltown Honda STealer quoted $198.. for the parts so I went to USA
Abe also added 10 parts for his ST1300  and total order came in juST under the next postage increase so $$ saved for us both.  :thumbs

edited top poST to include this info..
« Last Edit: August 22, 2014, 08:44:14 AM by johnnyYTED »
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2014, 09:13:45 AM »
How long from order to arrive at your door Johnny?
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2014, 09:26:01 AM »
How long from order to arrive at your door Johnny?
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 August 15, 2014 , 9:33 am Delivered AUSTRALIA
 all in all not bad
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2014, 01:09:08 PM »
A month is faster than getting the bits from Sydney
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2014, 01:23:28 PM »
A month is faster than getting the bits from Sydney
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 a dollar saved is a dollar earned,,, :butt well thats it for  me,on a DSP. the parts needed weren't keeping me from riding so the wait was acceptable  :grin ,,, if I was off the road  :think1 I probably would have gone to the local STealer  :OldMan and ate less  :EatCake :crackup
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2014, 09:17:11 PM »
My recommendation is to change the cush rubbers and inserts also 'O' rings every rear tyre change and lube with moly grease.
Looking at the pics of your wheel you already have wear in the on the surface where the 'O' ring sits, I had to shim with .5mm metal strapping, total wear was 1mm.
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2014, 09:55:25 PM »
Every tyre change you say Yorkie?  I think mine were originals and Ive put 125k since owning STranger for 6 1/2 yrs. 
Every trye change juST aint gunna happen. Sorry not on my budget,
 what does the manual recommend?

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2014, 10:39:16 PM »
I think you should at least rotate the ali bushes 180 degrees maintaining less movement. When I did mine I am sure the PY STeads had different numbers for the rubbers but I could be wrong. Great write up and a reminder to do mine since I have just replaced my rear with the gold plated and diamond encrusted rubber band.

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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 11:13:36 PM »
JohnnyYTED... If U haven't already thrown those slightly worn "alloy thingys" out with the trash...may I have them?

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2014, 04:54:37 PM »
JohnnyYTED... If U haven't already thrown those slightly worn "alloy thingys" out with the trash...may I have them?

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 sorry Greencan I didnt intend to throw em out, I saw another way to use them on something else I'm doing,,, not ST related though, but will work a treat  and  :think1 make that job much better with ST bits included  :grin
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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2014, 05:54:51 PM »
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sorry Greencan I didnt intend to throw em out, I saw another way to use them on something else I'm doing,,, not ST related though, but will work a treat  and  :think1 make that job much better with ST bits included  :grin

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Re: ST1100 Cush rubbers and alloy insert change
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2014, 10:21:33 PM »
Every tyre change you say Yorkie?  I think mine were originals and Ive put 125k since owning STranger for 6 1/2 yrs. 
Every trye change juST aint gunna happen. Sorry not on my budget,
 what does the manual recommend?

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Mine had only done 65k and I had to replace the rear wheel, is a lot cheaper to replace cush rubbers and ali bits.
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