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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« on: June 16, 2013, 07:45:38 PM »
I have been looking around for white ST1300's for sale, and they seem to be a very rare creature, am I right in guessing as they use them as the police bike they didn't sell them to to general public in white? Or only limited white was sold?

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Re: Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 07:52:36 PM »
White was not a civilian option.  Due to Honda not guaranteeing the stability above certain speeds I think they fell out of favour with police forces.  But there have been a few sold, particularly in WA for international meetings. They are up for auction at the moment.  There were also some sold new to the public to clear the stocks of the bikes.  As with the ST11 police model, knowing about being able to buy a new one is always after the fact.
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2013, 08:13:31 PM »
So Streak, are looking at being a 2 ST family (The black and white minSTrels, old tv show)
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 08:19:22 PM »
So Streak, are looking at being a 2 ST family (The black and white minSTrels, old tv show)

Seeing how I go with the tax man.....but quite possibly.....

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 08:20:48 PM »
A white 1300. Sensational. Best of luck Streak.
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 09:46:03 PM »
So Streak, are looking at being a 2 ST family (The black and white minSTrels, old tv show)


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Re: Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2013, 09:56:29 AM »
The Police model was a single seater (I believe) - this one is clearly registerable for two.

The police version also had different switch banks, light bracket mounts, calibrated speedo, "no-steal" switch when left running etc


Oh - and no top box.
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Re: Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2013, 10:39:38 AM »
The Police model was a single seater (I believe) - this one is clearly registerable for two.

The police version also had different switch banks, light bracket mounts, calibrated speedo, "no-steal" switch when left running etc


Oh - and no top box.

thanks mate, i am just curious to see if i can find one for sale anywhere...
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Re: Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2013, 12:14:07 PM »
The Police model was a single seater (I believe) - this one is clearly registerable for two.

The police version also had different switch banks, light bracket mounts, calibrated speedo, "no-steal" switch when left running etc


Oh - and no top box.

But like the 1100 everything could be swapped like the civvy models, only the log book would give you a tell tell idea of its previous life.

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Re: Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2013, 12:16:00 PM »
The Police model was a single seater (I believe) - this one is clearly registerable for two.

The police version also had different switch banks, light bracket mounts, calibrated speedo, "no-steal" switch when left running etc


Oh - and no top box.

But like the 1100 everything could be swapped with the civvy model, only the log book would give you a tell tell idea of its previous life.

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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2013, 12:41:55 PM »


thanks mate, i am just curious to see if i can find one for sale anywhere...

There's three available at Manheims over here in Perth, all former stablemates of my ST.
 

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Re: Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2013, 12:46:07 PM »
The Police model was a single seater (I believe) - this one is clearly registerable for two.

The police version also had different switch banks, light bracket mounts, calibrated speedo, "no-steal" switch when left running etc


Oh - and no top box.

thanks mate, i am just curious to see if i can find one for sale anywhere...

Best bet for a 1300 police bike would be WA as they use them
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2013, 12:53:47 PM »
I bought a ST1300 from Manhielm Fowles a few years ago and changed the seat over to a Corbin twin seat. The WA Police hierarchy decided that motorcycles were not the way to go and down sized the fleet, so they off loaded quite a few of them, mine had less than 6,00 kms on it when I bought it

Causeway Honda in Perth got caught with a few extra ST1300P Hondas when the police changed their mind. They ended up converting these bikes to civilian bikes by changing them to a twin seat, putting on a genuine top box and advertising them for $19,999. The bike in the photo looks like one of the ones from Causeways.

A couple of years later the W.A.P.D. realised their mistake and went back to ST1300 Hondas  and are only now changing to FJ1300 Yamahas because they can't buy any more Hondas.
 
The Police bikes are different that the civilian models, the easiest way to tell with Hondas is the frame No ST1100P/  ST1300P . CB750P  P=Police!!

As said before the switch gear is different, bonus because you can use them for your accessory switches,  spotlights etc. They have an upgraded rear shock and are rumoured to have a thicker frame. The rear frame is slightly different because it has an extra bracket either side to support the Electronics mount plate, I cut the mounts off when I fitted my Corbin because it fouled the bottom of the seat.

I am told that they also speed limited the Police ST1300s to 198 KPH ( not that I have ever tested the theory, and this was done because the UK Police bikes had different pod on the rear to house the radio/ blue light controls etc, the shape of the pod  (and possibly the weight of the electrics) caused instability at high speed which led to some fatalities.

I have not been able to find out how to remove the speed limiter, even the local Honda technicians are not clued up.     


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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2013, 01:05:26 PM »
Thinking about it a bit more, buying second hand police auctions can be a good cheap way to go.

The traffic coppers usually get assigned a bike when it is new and ride them from day one until it either runs up it's Kms or they get transferred to another section.

They are always serviced every 6,000 km and they don't scrimp on the costs, can't have coppers falling off bikes because they  weren't maintained properly can we??.


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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2013, 01:15:11 PM »
John, thanks for that info. I bought my 13 from Manheim last month, and having now sold my 11, looking in earnest at the seat.
When you fitted the Corbin, was there anything else you had to do apart from take off the extra lugs on the seat rail?
 

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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2013, 01:39:54 PM »
I am thinking another 12 months and i will seriously get into looking at upgrading....i have a few conquests to ahceive on the ST1100 before I move to the ST1300

i am going to have to factor in a few extra bits and pieces, but in the meantime make sure if you spot a white one for sale put it up!

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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2013, 01:51:55 PM »
Seat modification

I think I have done a post on this before ,if not here then on the US st1300 site.

I had to take the seat off, grind off the mounts on either side of the seat rail at the back ( On the black metal part of the frame)  and then change the lock release set up.

From memory you need to buy a lock release cable and a catch from Honda for about $70 - $80 and then fit it at the rear of the frame

Other than that it is pretty easy, if you get serious about it give me a call and I will have a good look at how I did it

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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2013, 02:35:37 PM »
I Tell you what they dont miss you with the fees for buying via auction:

http://www.manheim.com.au/recreation/3761701/2007-honda-st1300-motorcycle?referringPage=SearchResults

Before finalising your bidding/buying, please view the associated
fees:

Buyer Admin Fee: Fixed fee of $225.01
If the purchase price is greater than $1001.00 $300.00
If the purchase price is greater than $2001.00 $450.00
If the purchase price is greater than $3001.00 $535.00
Simulcast Bidder Fee
Fixed fee of $33.00
If the purchase price is greater than $501.00 $77.00
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2013, 03:18:27 PM »
No they squeeze every last cent!

Those bikes that are left have reserves of $6k and $6.5k. That's base price, plus fees. Couple are a bit rough too.
 

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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 04:23:56 PM »
No they squeeze every last cent!

Those bikes that are left have reserves of $6k and $6.5k. That's base price, plus fees. Couple are a bit rough too.

if i could pick one up for 6-7k, and just do it up as i go.....no Graham bad Graham, wish i could get in and have a look at them....
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2013, 04:35:53 PM »
I have my notes on them if you want...

But you don't want, right ;)
 

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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 04:41:27 PM »
I have my notes on them if you want...

But you don't want, right ;)

post them up, i think we all would not mind the read....and no i don't want one, as i am looking at flights to perth, and time frames to ride home....no not at all
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 04:42:41 PM »
Will post up a bit later.











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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 05:25:05 PM »
Just had a look, and the three ST13s are up for auction again tomorrow. Below is my notes from looking at them the day before last month's auction.
There were 5 then, and they all attracted bids but finished under reserve. I managed to get the bike that was my first choice out of the five, and the other one that sold would have been my equal (with 332 below) second pick. The remaining ones though, all had lower reserves, which I found out during the post auction "negotiation". Anyhoo:


Bikes
1cz 214 lot 873
Crack in fr fender lh tank pad loose
Minor scuffs 2 dash holes no hiss.
Rear good front good.
Lh drop - infil, wing scuffed, panel align - ok tho.
Ok- maybe.
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1dk 332 lot 825
Lh drop (wing scuff) and fr l fairing not perfect alignment like most others.
Chips on tank
Messy bags - just glue from stickers
Extra hole in cowl? Meh.
Rear close front 50%
Not bad at all.
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1dk 327 lot 901 (hwy patrol)
Both sides dropped (wing scuff) interestingly best front panel fit of the lot?? no holes in dash
Tank chipped badly (possibly bushfire fallout or summat) needs spray
Velcro on dash else clean
Lh saddlebag full of water may need seal, looks ok
Seat a bit loose
Only if its cheap!

Obviously they're all 2006 build from VIN (and abs ring), but registered as 08 or 07 manufacture.
 
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Re: White ST1300's for sale?
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 05:54:02 PM »
Hmm so I wonder what you could pick one of these up for....

STeamroller, can you pm me your phone number, just want to get a verbal opinion....
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