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Honda ST1300 Section => Electrics & Electronics - Volts, Amps and Fuses ST1300 => Topic started by: taffmak on May 13, 2016, 05:49:26 PM
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Had the dreaded lhs lamp fail within 4000ks of being replaced.
Just fitted these led replacements.
9003 H4 HB2 LED Headlight Kit High Low Beam 6000K 50W Replace Halogen Bulb Kit http://r.ebay.com/4E7GyO (http://r.ebay.com/4E7GyO)
They are Phillips flip chip LEDs (whatever they are) and they have a cooling fan built into the front end rather than hanging out the back like most others. That means externally they're the same.
We'll see how well they work - I'll be right back on here and let you know I'll there's any issue with them.
:rd13
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That design should give a nice and clean low beam cut off line.
:popcorn.
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That design should give a nice and clean low beam cut off line.
:popcorn.
Yep! I'm looking forward to reading a report, particularly in regard to the low beam cut-off. 2800 Lumens each is quite tidy. It would be very helpful if you could line it up against a blank wall and take some photos for us of the low and high beam patterns. :thumb
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++ StinkyPete. I was thinking the same thing.
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Ok....
Im happy to be the ignorant git.
Looked at the link and it appears that the light only shines through one side of the unit - the other side being a heat sink.
Will this work in our headlight units? the globe in mine appears to shine through 360 degrees.
Hoping I am way off course as they look like a neat unit.
cheers
Troy
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I'm guessing a bit here as the photos don't show the whole circumference of the globes. Normally the LOW beam LEDs are on the upper side of the globe and reflects down from the top of the bike's reflector. When HIGH beam is engaged the LEDs on the lower side kick in and fill the upper part of the light pattern from the lower reflector.
With the normal globe, this is achieved via the little shield you see on one part of the filament.
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Ok....
Im happy to be the ignorant git.
Looked at the link and it appears that the light only shines through one side of the unit - the other side being a heat sink.
Will this work in our headlight units? the globe in mine appears to shine through 360 degrees.
That was what I was thinking about otherwise it would be ok.
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I'm guessing a bit here as the photos don't show the whole circumference of the globes. Normally the LOW beam LEDs are on the upper side of the globe and reflects down from the top of the bike's reflector. When HIGH beam is engaged the LEDs on the lower side kick in and fill the upper part of the light pattern from the lower reflector.
With the normal globe, this is achieved via the little shield you see on one part of the filament.
See here
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I'm guessing a bit here as the photos don't show the whole circumference of the globes. Normally the LOW beam LEDs are on the upper side of the globe and reflects down from the top of the bike's reflector. When HIGH beam is engaged the LEDs on the lower side kick in and fill the upper part of the light pattern from the lower reflector.
With the normal globe, this is achieved via the little shield you see on one part of the filament.
See here
I assumed the other side would also have LEDs like mine did.
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No, the LEDs are both of the top side.
I've taken some pictures but not sure how to get 'em on here.
They aren't as good coverage as my Honda car' s LEDs but I'm happy enough with them - they seem ok on the road. They are high or low beam - the high beam doesn't come on in addition to the low - it would be better but not sure the cooling would be adequate for both on at once.
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That design should give a nice and clean low beam cut off line.
:popcorn.
Yep! I'm looking forward to reading a report, particularly in regard to the low beam cut-off. 2800 Lumens each is quite tidy. It would be very helpful if you could line it up against a blank wall and take some photos for us of the low and high beam patterns. :thumb
Low beam cut off is quite sharp (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/7584cb44d3463e43aa369736d544014e.jpg)
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Hers a few more pics...
Low beam
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/e2898c892c6c5203e99ec8b6313c0447.jpg)
High beam
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/f3ae9713ec7c7b78659169784d3b91f5.jpg)
The high beam is much better in reality than the camera picks up.
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Low beam
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/76be25e084bdbcc033b557d1e70f2cd0.jpg)
High beam
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/62149be3943dccd22e15c2ed089206f5.jpg)
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They look pretty cool.
Anything special in the installation?
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High beam on the shed...
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/4c39304128f8faf03cdfda99b5d85230.jpg)
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They look pretty cool.
Anything special in the installation?
No, that's the beauty - straight swap except the usual cut off tabs - done both under 10 mins.
That design should give a nice and clean low beam cut off line.
:popcorn.
Yep! I'm looking forward to reading a report, particularly in regard to the low beam cut-off. 2800 Lumens each is quite tidy. It would be very helpful if you could line it up against a blank wall and take some photos for us of the low and high beam patterns. :thumb
Low beam cut off is quite sharp ([url]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/7584cb44d3463e43aa369736d544014e.jpg[/url])
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Thanks for posting the pictures. The beam cut-offs look pretty good. :thumb
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Thanks for posting up the photo's.
It is interesting that the cooling fan is at the the pointy end where I am assuming that there is not much airflow or hot air extraction. The other point that has caught my attention was the comment that only one beam comes on at a time, being 25w, yet they state 50W so one would have thought that the hi and low beam together would be the 50w.
I will keep watching to see how these go over time :popcorn :beer
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Thanks for posting up the photo's.
It is interesting that the cooling fan is at the the pointy end where I am assuming that there is not much airflow or hot air extraction. The other point that has caught my attention was the comment that only one beam comes on at a time, being 25w, yet they state 50W so one would have thought that the hi and low beam together would be the 50w.
I will keep watching to see how these go over time :popcorn :beer
end of the box is marked Hi/LO 25w 2800LM
seller said 50w set
photos show them to be quite effective even though they only use the top halve of the headlight
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Here are a couple of links for interest:
This appears to be the importer in the USA with free postage to Australia. They are made in China so a search may find the manufacturer and possibly cheaper prices
http://www.vigoshop.com/led-headlight-bulbs-h4hb29003-headlight-kit-c-138_180.html?zenid=890ounsge7km4av85sk0docst4 (http://www.vigoshop.com/led-headlight-bulbs-h4hb29003-headlight-kit-c-138_180.html?zenid=890ounsge7km4av85sk0docst4)
This one, well it must be the Rolls Royce of LED Headlight globes from Phillips - check out the price :eek
http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/product/2x-philips-h4-hilo-6200k-led-headlight-150-white-light-replace-12v-65w55w/ (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/product/2x-philips-h4-hilo-6200k-led-headlight-150-white-light-replace-12v-65w55w/)
All in all it appears that LED headlights have really started to hit the market with some great improvements. Looks like I may be able to move from the HID headlights to LED :grin
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Based upon Taffmak's photos, I've fitted a pair of these today. I like the broad flat beam, which should penetrate down the road, and my LED spotties should fill in the gaps nicely. We can have a light comparison at Neville.
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:popcorn :popcorn
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Hi guys,
Keen to get a report on how these lights work in a practical sense. The reports so far have been good but would like to know how they go out on the road
cheers
Troy
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I've not done any long distance country/night work with them yet, but I'm pretty happy with the beam pattern, additional brightness over the 65/55 H4's, and low beam cut-off. With the high beam set at the correct height for maximum penetration, low beam is quite flat and close on the road in front of the bike, but that does not seem to be a problem for me. Taffmak's photos give a very good accurate indication of the beam pattern. My LED flood pattern driving lights fill in the roadsides very nicely. I must test them on a good open country road and report back, but nights have been sooooo cold recently.
I liked the fanless D2D gloves that I tried, but they gave a very poor pattern with little difference between high and low beam, resulting in very annoyed oncoming traffic. I've written off the cost of that experiment as a "self education expense". See http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=9407.msg1191760#msg1191760 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=9407.msg1191760#msg1191760) I should be the smartest guy around with what I've spent over the years on stuff that didn't work out.
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I am interested also. My HID upgrade to the ST11 has been playing up. The guy I brought them of 6 years ago, Arco Imports or Pro Vision is recommending some 35 watt LED lights at around $230.00. With the photo of the light spread when switching from low to high (or the other way) do you lose or have a black spot that neither light covers?
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I have LED spotties that fill in any holes in the Hi Beam pattern, but I will do a night run when it's not freezing cold, and test just the LED H4's on high and low beam on a dark country road. I'd be keen to hear Taffmak's assessment of the same globes.
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Well they've made it to the next service which is already an improvement over the last globes!
Used them daily in the dark and honestly don't have a problem with them - no missing coverage on full beam - I just revisited the pics and one of the shots looks like there is a big shadow in it but that is because the bike was pointed over a dip!
They're fine on the road but I'm not game to sit in the road for photos :)