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BT-023-GT
« on: January 30, 2012, 10:35:46 AM »

Looks like a GT version of the Bridgestone 023 is now available for ST1300 tyre sizes in the US of A.  I'm currently running a set of BT 023's and so far I like them, unfortunately they don't wear as well as the BT 020's.....especially for 2 up riding.  Would like to give the heavier GT version a run when they become available in Oz.   
 

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 03:08:07 PM »
Had to settle on BT23s for the 1100. Wanted PR3 but Micnellin Aust couldnt make up there mind if the right sizes were available or not. Same with the PR2

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 04:23:16 PM »

One of the few frustrating things I find with the ST is the lack of tyre choice.  If you stick with the recommended OEM tyres, or tyres that are endorsed by the tyre manufacturer, there's not a lot of choice.

I don't mind the BT 023's, they have just as much grip as the PR2's in the dry and they appear to hang on pretty well in the wet.  In the handling department they feel very nuetral, tip in when cornering is very predictable.  Bump absorption is good with the ride quality being much better than the 020's.  Definitely aren't as noisy as the Michelins.  On the down side the 023's are going to wear quickly, especially when 2 up, so I hope the GT is a big improvement in this area. 

 

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 04:32:08 PM »
Its important to keep the right size on the front, as the speedo drive is there, as for the back, it changes the revs required for a speed. In this case for 100 KPH, revs drop by 100 to 3184 RPM. Or at least thats what my calculator says. Might save a little fuel.
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 04:55:54 PM »
Have you had a look at Avon Storm 2 Ultra

http://www.proaccessories.com.au/products/avon/storm.htm

My last BT 023 gave me about 12,000kms with usage varying from solo, two up and trailer, solo and trailer.
And so far I have 11,000kms on the front tyre.



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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 05:08:19 PM »
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I also use - as I posted previously - Storm 2 Ultra - front & rear

Both fitted at same time - have covered 11,000 kms - about 70% commute and would have to say - on present wear - another 7,500 to 8,000 kms - at least ........ no cupping - scuffing - head wobble or or or ...I run 40 psi front and 44 psi rear - handles brilliantly - wet & dry - turn in is excellent -  real confidence boosters.

Could only recommend despite some reports.

Happy Tyre decisions - as Down Under has stated - Brand choice is limited - especially ST1100.

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 05:46:21 PM »
ST13 sizes work ok on the ST11 but I prefer the right sizes if possible.  Even ST13 sizes are a bit limiting at times for standard models (later ABS ST11s use the same front as the ST13)

Storm 2 ultras are my current pick for best tyre on the ST11 but the Shinko Verge is giving them a good run for their money at the moment.

I read on one site that the GT version of the BT023 is in 180/55 rear only, but it may fit the ST13.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 05:48:56 PM by saaz »
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 06:06:59 PM »
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Winston 66 wonders?  Question for today,  This darkside business.

Is there a suitable C/T that will fit the rear of the St1300 some people give good reports about the Kuhmo on other makes of motorcycles.
  Has anyone tried this route.

  Opinions please.

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 06:56:50 PM »
I read on one site that the GT version of the BT023 is in 180/55 rear only, but it may fit the ST13.


The BT 023 GT is definitely available in the USA in ST1300 sizes.  I don't think there's a GT tyre for the 1100 yet.  Have a look at the link:

http://www.discount-motorcycletires.com/inc/sdetail/190/214

Use the tyre size drop down to find the GT sizes.
 

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 07:02:58 PM »
Great then.  If they are in ST13 sizes I would have no hesitation in trying them on the ST11 as I have found no problems doing so.
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 07:44:38 PM »
Has anyone tried the Conti. Attacks for there 1300. My Battleaxe are cupping after 9000 km and I am wondering what is out there.this is the first st I have had. I had a black bird before and there is plenty to choose from.  :blk13
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 08:13:52 PM »
Winston,

Might be better to start a new thread in the tyres section, that way answers wont get confused with the Bridgestone tyres.

Started one for you.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 08:19:33 PM by Brock »
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 07:57:19 PM »
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Hey all there is a great range of tyres available from the US at www.revzilla.com  and at the moment they have a discount going and this includes the PR2s and 3s

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 08:54:14 PM »
Nice find Tipsy, but they cant/wont ship tyres overseas according to their checkout page. There are many tyre shops in the US that are cheaper than here, cant send certain tyres brands here, like PR2/3 (Just about anything that fits the 1100 )
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2012, 09:29:49 PM »
Some of the US shops sound cheap but the shipping is a killer.  JakeWilson was shipping PR2/3s a while ago, but has been blocked in the past from shipping them overseas. 

On the Conti Roadattacks, I have tried them in ST13 sizes on the ST11.  They were worn out in 10,000kms, same as many other tyres for me so a rating of avearge all round (and an average rating is still a pretty good tyre!).  If they were just cupped a bit at 9,000kms I would be happy!  PR2/3s seem the best for distance and grip it seems, but I have not tried them as yet.  Best tyres so far have been Avon Storm Ultra 2's which went 13,000kms on the St11 but also worked well in all conditions.
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2012, 09:36:30 PM »
ST13 sizes work ok on the ST11 but I prefer the right sizes if possible.  Even ST13 sizes are a bit limiting at times for standard models (later ABS ST11s use the same front as the ST13)

Storm 2 ultras are my current pick for best tyre on the ST11 but the Shinko Verge is giving them a good run for their money at the moment.

I read on one site that the GT version of the BT023 is in 180/55 rear only, but it may fit the ST13.

Shinko Verge - not heard of them before, I'm gonna look them up.

I thought we were limited to the Avon Storm U2 or Bridgrstone 023 on the 1100 (for radials at least).  I used the Avon on the rear of my FireBlade in the UK, I thought it was a good tyre.  Bot the 023's seem to be a fair bit cheaper, much as I don't like Bridgestone I'll probably go for these.  Or maybe the Shinko's now...  :think1
 

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2012, 09:45:00 PM »
Des, the Shinko Verges I am using are in ST13 sizes but work very well in all conditions I have tried so far. I am quite surprised at how well they work in the wet, as I thought the Avons were great at that but the Shinkos are just as good.  They are stiffer in the carcass so don't ride as plush as the Avon, and the Pr2s I hace sitting in the garage seem really soft carcass wise in comparison.

Last order I got from JakeWilson they cost $220 a pair delivered, but i bought a few pairs in the order for some other St riders around here, so the average shipping cost was a bit lower.
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 08:57:10 AM »
Des, the Shinko Verges I am using are in ST13 sizes but work very well in all conditions I have tried so far. I am quite surprised at how well they work in the wet, as I thought the Avons were great at that but the Shinkos are just as good.  They are stiffer in the carcass so don't ride as plush as the Avon, and the Pr2s I hace sitting in the garage seem really soft carcass wise in comparison.

Last order I got from JakeWilson they cost $220 a pair delivered, but i bought a few pairs in the order for some other St riders around here, so the average shipping cost was a bit lower.

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 08:30:40 AM »
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I just got an email back from Jake Willson.

Laurie,
   Thank you for your interest in our products. We can ship these tire to Australia for you. Here is what I found in our data base in the sizes you are looking for.

Part #
1324630004  120/70ZR-18 (59W) Michelin Pilot Road 3 Radial Front Motorcycle Tire for $134.99
1324650003  180/55ZR-17 (73W) Michelin Pilot Road 3 Radial Rear Motorcycle Tire for $169.99
1324650006  180/55ZR-17 B (73W) Michelin Pilot Road 3 Radial Rear Motorcycle Tire for $189.99 (these are recommend for loaded sport touring or/and riding two-up)

   The shipping is figured off the subtotal of your order. Here is the break down of the shipping costs:

$0.01 to $99.00 $50.00
 $99.01 to $199.00 $55.00
 $199.01 to $299.00 $65.00
 $299.01 to $399.00 $75.00
 $399.01 to $499.00 $85.00
 $499.01 to $599.00 $95.00
 $599.01 to $699.00 $105.00
 $699.01 to $799.00 $280.00
 $799.01 to $899.00 $290.00
 $899.01 to $999.00 $300.00
 $30.00 for each $100.00 beyond $999...

Cris Jex| Customer Service Representative - Rocky Mountain ATV/MC | Jake Wilson

Rocky Mountain ATV/MC -  toll free: 1.800.336.5437  fax: 1.801.465.3457 | Jake Wilson - toll free: 1.800.721.8253  fax: 1.801.465.4595

address: 1551 American Way, Payson, UT 84651

websites: www.rockymountainatvmc.com | www.jakewilson.com

I will be putting my order in 12th of March.

I did send an email to an Aussie site yesterday but as yet no reply.

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2012, 06:19:35 PM »
Nice find Tipsy, but they cant/wont ship tyres overseas according to their checkout page. There are many tyre shops in the US that are cheaper than here, cant send certain tyres brands here, like PR2/3 (Just about anything that fits the 1100 )
Brock I buy tyres motor bike stuff from Rocky Mountain Atv ( Jake Wilson ) if you get a couple of guys together you can get them at the right price. They give you a $50.00 cash reward that you can use on your next purchase.I keep the total too $700.00 and it cost me $100.00 freight with the cash rewards it's only $50.00. If you go over the $700.00, the frieght and duties go up to $320.00..it usually comes in 4 days to Melbourne. But you being on another planet it might take a bit longer. The goods come by Fedx. I have never had a prob, have a look on the site cheers :blk13 aj
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2012, 06:34:52 PM »
Any of you guys run contie's?  I've known a few mates to run them for years since they went through re-tooling (picking up I believe Pirelli's staff  when metzeler took over pirelli) with great success- some of them even racing on them.  Excellent excellent wet weather tyres, just make sure the pressures are up- they get greasy if under inflated
 

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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2012, 06:36:30 PM »
I have tried the Roadattacks.  As good as other tyres I have tried, average life out of them which for me is 10,000kms.
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2012, 09:50:59 PM »
:wht11 py

I just got an email back from Jake Willson.

Laurie,
   Thank you for your interest in our products. We can ship these tire to Australia for you. Here is what I found in our data base in the sizes you are looking for.

Part #
1324630004  120/70ZR-18 (59W) Michelin Pilot Road 3 Radial Front Motorcycle Tire for $134.99
1324650003  180/55ZR-17 (73W) Michelin Pilot Road 3 Radial Rear Motorcycle Tire for $169.99
1324650006  180/55ZR-17 B (73W) Michelin Pilot Road 3 Radial Rear Motorcycle Tire for $189.99 (these are recommend for loaded sport touring or/and riding two-up)

   The shipping is figured off the subtotal of your order. Here is the break down of the shipping costs:

$0.01 to $99.00 $50.00
 $99.01 to $199.00 $55.00
 $199.01 to $299.00 $65.00
 $299.01 to $399.00 $75.00
 $399.01 to $499.00 $85.00
 $499.01 to $599.00 $95.00
 $599.01 to $699.00 $105.00
 $699.01 to $799.00 $280.00
 $799.01 to $899.00 $290.00
 $899.01 to $999.00 $300.00
 $30.00 for each $100.00 beyond $999...

Cris Jex| Customer Service Representative - Rocky Mountain ATV/MC | Jake Wilson

Rocky Mountain ATV/MC -  toll free: 1.800.336.5437  fax: 1.801.465.3457 | Jake Wilson - toll free: 1.800.721.8253  fax: 1.801.465.4595

address: 1551 American Way, Payson, UT 84651

websites: www.rockymountainatvmc.com | www.jakewilson.com

I will be putting my order in 12th of March.

I did send an email to an Aussie site yesterday but as yet no reply.

Tipsy


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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2012, 05:54:02 PM »
Just got my PR 3's today A$720 for 2 sets I ended up ordering a 180 rear by mistake but will give it a go anyway 170 rear would have been A$680 shipped took 1 week to arrive
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Re: BT-023-GT
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2012, 07:22:40 PM »
180 rear fits on the ST13
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