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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2014, 11:12:30 AM »
What sort od traffic were you in, and what was the ambient temperature???

Wear kevlar lined jeans, that will keep the heat off the legs..You were wearing jeans, and not shorts I hope..?
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2014, 11:21:02 AM »
Thanks Brock,
I was on the motorway heading south. Ambient temperature was 28c and doing 100kph. I was wearing normal denim jeans and the heat was just blasting out from the engine. The fairing in front of my legs was scorching hot.
I don't know where to start to try to alleviate the heat issue. Being in QLD it is only going to get hotter as summer progresses and i'm not looking forward to roasting each time i go for a ride.  :H :blu13 :H
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2014, 12:20:51 PM »
Maybe you should upgrade to a ST1100?  :grin  :grin
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2014, 12:25:31 PM »
Maybe you should upgrade to a ST1100?  :grin  :grin

To be sure, that if and when I am in the market for an upgrade, that will be one issue on the look out for. Only go for a ride on a  :H  day to test pilot the bike.
Dont get any of that issue with my 1100. Go figure.................................. :wht11
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2014, 12:51:45 PM »
There's a thread on ST-Owners about lining the cowl with aluminium foil.  It's a lot of work, but had some benefit.  Another suggested fix is removing the centre (black) cowl in front of the radiator to improve airflow.  Another has holes drilled in the inner cowl also for better airflow.
So it's not uncommon, but oddly, not universal.
I bought exhaust pipe bandage to try to keep the heat from coming off the pipes but a mechanic advised against it, saying it would concentrate the heat on the heads with ill effects.
So jeans and highway pegs rule.  Not ideal, but manageable.  Let's face it- hot days are miserable in the jackets and helmets.  Maybe leave the bike in the shed when it's over 25o out if you own a hot one?
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2014, 01:13:48 PM »
Biggles, you of all people should know that the chances of the temp being below 25c are about the same as winning lotto. If i do that i will only get to ride for about a quarter of the year. I will certainly be warm in winter if this keeps up.. :wink1

I did read the post on the ST Owners site and it sure looks like a lot of work for varied results. I'm not overly confident about trying to dismantle the beast as yet so was hoping there was a simply remedy or that it was a problem that was easily fixed.

 The pillion in a million would not be happy if i said that it was too hot and needed to change it to another bike ...FJR... Just kidding about the FJR.
Hopefully another of our learned members will be able to diagnose what can be done, if anything. Upgrade to ST1100 as Totgas suggested.

Thanks everyone..  :blu13left
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2014, 04:50:19 PM »
Never had a heat problem with my bike......but it was fitted with knee/leg wind deflectors from new and my first ride was from Brisbane to Tasmania in 32 degrees for a very large part of the way. I've also since added a tailored sheepskin seat cover and a Bagster, not for heat issues I should add, but for comfort and tank protection, as well as being able to fit a fixed tank bag to the Bagster. Perhaps if I rode through city traffic every day I might notice the heat from the motor, but I don't............lucky me, hey!! :grin
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2014, 07:07:01 PM »
Couch I like you don't really suffer from heat and my bike like yours has the deflector kit on it. Maybe  that is the common denominator.  It would be interesting to see if heat issues are less common on bikes fitted with deflectors.

I have foil lined my pie warmers and I think I can detect a redcution in heat inside the boxes.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2014, 07:50:29 PM »
Couch I like you don't really suffer from heat and my bike like yours has the deflector kit on it. Maybe  that is the common denominator.  It would be interesting to see if heat issues are less common on bikes fitted with deflectors.

I have foil lined my pie warmers and I think I can detect a redcution in heat inside the boxes.

I have the wind deflectors on my ST1300 and don't have a heat problem at all
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2014, 08:28:04 PM »
I have the wind deflectors on my ST1300 and don't have a heat problem at all

Intuitively they would be counter-productive, if their purpose is to decrease the airflow to the rider.
It's just possible they change the airflow around the legs which would explain the difference.
Has anyone who had heat problems fitted the deflectors for whatever reason and found the heat ameliorated?

And Justin, we get cooler weather more than 3 months of the year!!  I'd say the heat is a problem for me for four months, November to February.  And among those, there are some quite pleasant days.  I think you took a hiding like everyone last week when the hot air mob came to Brissie (the G20 gravy train) and the climate change lobby ordered up a couple of scorchers to make their point.       :grin
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2014, 09:03:38 PM »
I just took the wind deflectors off and havent noticed any difference, though I always wear full bike gear including padded and armoured pants.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2014, 09:08:48 PM »
I just took the wind deflectors off and havent noticed any difference, though I always wear full bike gear including padded and armoured pants.

Bloodman might be PMing you with an offer to buy.

I agree the heavier the pants, the better for coping with the engine heat.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2014, 09:41:47 PM »
Might I ask why?

I just took the wind deflectors off and havent noticed any difference, though I always wear full bike gear including padded and armoured pants.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2014, 10:09:32 PM »
The original reason for fitting them was to reduce the wind turbulence on my pillion, but she doesnt ride with me much these days. A while back I lost one of the side mirrors and although I got a replacement I would have needed to obtain the wind deflectors for that mirror to keep the bike balanced, so I removed all of the upper deflectors.
In addition I had noticed that there was more turbulence since I had them fitted and the fuel usage was higher (about 1 km/L) so I decided to remove the lower deflectors as well and see what difference it makes. I find the bike is now slightly more stable in turbulent conditions such as when behind a truck though I havent ridden enough to know how the fuel usage has changed.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2014, 10:47:19 PM »
Fair enough...........I've only ever ridden with wind deflectors fitted so I can't pass comment on the difference, with or without!  The turbulance experienced when travelling behind another vehicle, particularly trucks, has never worried me at all, I try to stay back a little until the opportunity to pass comes along, then I'll move forward and just go for it. :grin
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2014, 06:51:18 AM »
posted this on the previous page but it looks as though nobody is interested in tackling it.....bugger as I wanted to watch and see how it went


here we go, I forget who posted this up earlier, so whoever did thank you

http://www.donferrario.com/st1300/

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2014, 12:55:13 PM »
tj189 ,
I would also like to see if someone is keen to tackle this project, even if just to see it if it makes a difference to my problems.

I went out again today, as it is a little cooler, with dririder pants on and still cooked. Starting to contemplate Biggles idea of selling .... and buying one that doesnt cook my legs.

Only as a last resort . :-[
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2014, 01:18:22 PM »
tj189 ,
Starting to contemplate Biggles idea of selling .... and buying one that doesnt cook my legs.

Noooo!  I didn't say that!  I wouldn't!!  I meant he might sell you the deflector kit to see if it improved the airflow on your bike.

It's a strange thing.  I rode for 2.5 hours this morning with 29o on the temp gauge and didn't have a problem at all.  It mainly gets me in traffic, especially sitting at the lights.  But then I put both legs down and out and have instant relief.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2014, 03:18:59 PM »
There are some plastic attachments to the underside of the mirrors. Are these deflectors ? If so maybe I should take them off !! If not then maybe it would be worthwhile buying them to see if they fix or reduce the intensity of the heat.  :thumbs :blu13
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2014, 06:18:39 PM »
posted this on the previous page but it looks as though nobody is interested in tackling it.....bugger as I wanted to watch and see how it went


here we go, I forget who posted this up earlier, so whoever did thank you

http://www.donferrario.com/st1300/

If anyone in Brissy or surrounds is going to tackle this project, please let me know :popcorn
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While I don't have a 1300, I would have thought that this would be a no brainer. Haven` read through his blog it makes it clear that what he has done works....thats where I`d be .....trying it., just sayin`................................ :wht11
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2014, 08:25:03 PM »
Well I did a 100km on the bike today with temps hitting 40 degrees, and I had no cooking of the legs.

I have the wind deflectors and I also have a bagster tank cover on as well if that helps
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2014, 09:13:58 PM »
There are some plastic attachments to the underside of the mirrors. Are these deflectors ? If so maybe I should take them off !

If it's easy to get them off, then try it.  Got to be easier than lining the skin of your bike with alfoil!!
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 PM »
I clocked up 1157kms one day in my ride from Brisbane to Tasmania, with the temp averaging around 32 degrees most of the way, and I never noticed any heat build up in the legs, I think the wind deflectors do deflect the heat from the motor around the legs, I admit, I didn't have too many stops in traffic along the way, and I think that it could make a difference if you're stopping and starting in traffic all the time. Fortunately most of my kms are on country roads! :grin
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2014, 04:41:30 PM »
As most of my riding is in the City commute ( yes Townsville IS a city .... quite a big one too!)I also find the heat issue to be a little uncomfortable at times .... particularly when i am wearing my safety crocs and safety shorts!   :fp  :spank  :whistle

But less so when i am wearing my jeans and boots.

I am not sure what the solution is for us that have the city stop start commute but would be happy for any advice for the ST11 ..... particularly pics.

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2014, 05:08:03 PM »
I am not sure what the solution is for us that have the city stop start commute but would be happy for any advice for the ST11 ..... particularly pic


Awww that's easy, move to Tasmania!! :grin


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