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Honda ST1300 Section => Tyres...to suit your ST1300 => Topic started by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 06, 2017, 01:13:09 PM

Title: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 06, 2017, 01:13:09 PM
  After our last long distance trip with Miss Scarlett, Rolling Thunder attached and the Navigator/QuarterMaster aboard, we were dismayed to see how much wear the rear tyre (Bridgestone Battlax) had taken... as a Sport Touring tyre, the hard compound centre hardly wore at all, while the softer compound shoulders seemed to melt away like butter... so as a result, we will dabble in the Darkside...

(http://www.imghostr.net/images/2017/09/06/31efd43fdb72753de92ca6f9e09a0213.jpg) (http://www.imghostr.net/image/vTlj)Miss Scarlett has gone over to the Darkside.... we present 'Darth Scarlett'


  We've done a couple of local rides... the first solo test ride felt unusual, but not as different as I had imagined... it felt a little stiffer rolling into corners, experiencing no loss of traction, even with some aggressive acceleration exiting the turn... our two-up rides have been perfectly pleasant and comfortable... with the addition of a pillion on board, it felt like any other tyre... seat height may be a tad lower - for which the Navigator is grateful.

Hankook... 205/50ZR17 - 93W... 32psi solo... 34psi 2-up... maybe +2psi with trailer... Ventus S1 noble2... $144 Jax Tyres... fitted & balanced for $30 cash.

  We'll have more info when we get to Wooli. Cheers, John, Kate & Darth Scarlett.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: StinkyPete on September 06, 2017, 02:07:50 PM
I had a mate go darkside on his cruiser, and he ran 24psi in the tyre.   I followed him through some twisties and there was a fair amount of sidewall distortion on cornering, and the low pressure minimized the resistance to the turn and kept most of the car tyre tread area on the road.  His experience was that the lower pressure was ave a significant improvement in handling over the higher pressures.  Based upon his experience, try running lower pressures and see just how it feels.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Shiney on September 06, 2017, 03:37:08 PM
Looks good mate 8)
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 06, 2017, 03:44:50 PM
I had a mate go darkside on his cruiser, and he ran 24psi in the tyre.   I followed him through some twisties and there was a fair amount of sidewall distortion on cornering, and the low pressure minimized the resistance to the turn and kept most of the car tyre tread area on the road.  His experience was that the lower pressure was ave a significant improvement in handling over the higher pressures.  Based upon his experience, try running lower pressures and see just how it feels.

... the pressure is strong in this one, Obi-Wan.  ... but we'll give your suggestion a go.

... especially riding Han Solo... it's all Kate's fault - she's the pun addict.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 06, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
Looks good mate 8)

  thanks Mate... the most difficult part about this process so far, was finding someone to fit and balance it... i bought the CT at Jax Tyres, but then had to use my mates-of-mates connections, to get it properly fitted on a tyre-fitting machine.

  the scariest part was not going for the first ride (one mate said i should remove all the tupperware first)... it was when i had the bike wheel and new CT side-by-side and was thinking "... no-way, that'll never fit..." - but it does!

  end note... you have to drop almost all the air pressure out of the CT, when fitting it to the STeed... reinflate it and away you go. Cheers, John. (Kate's busy - so pun-free  :grin)
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Williamson on September 06, 2017, 07:53:31 PM
After our last long distance trip with Miss Scarlett, Rolling Thunder attached and the Navigator/QuarterMaster aboard, we were dismayed to see how much wear the rear tyre (Bridgestone Battlax) had taken... as a Sport Touring tyre, the hard compound centre hardly wore at all, while the softer compound shoulders seemed to melt away like butter...

Quite the opposite experience for me when touring with Mrs W, full panniers and top box on the ST1300, and previously on the CB1300.  Even worse towing the Elite trailer, and previously the Classic trailer.

Perhaps I'm giving it too much throttle in a straight line, or not cornering hard enough.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 11, 2017, 05:50:05 PM
  went for another ride today, to test dropping the air pressure down to 24psi... in a word - yuck! ... it felt flabby (technical term) and it wallowed... so into the servo and back up to 32psi... with Kate aboard and loaded trailer attached - good.

  don't get me wrong - it's different to using an MC tyre, but the differences are minor and we feel that it's nothing that we won't get used to.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: StinkyPete on September 11, 2017, 06:18:28 PM
  went for another ride today, to test dropping the air pressure down to 24psi... in a word - yuck! ... it felt flabby (technical term) and it wallowed... so into the servo and back up to 32psi... with Kate aboard and loaded trailer attached - good.

  don't get me wrong - it's different to using an MC tyre, but the differences are minor and we feel that it's nothing that we won't get used to.

Fair enough, and it's interesting to hear your feedback compared to running a darkside at 24psi on a Boulevard 109. 
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Gadget on September 11, 2017, 06:40:53 PM
I think centre of gravity could make a big difference in tyre pressures.

Also the rim width of the 109 is quite wide, so the aspect ratio is probably different, in order to get to the OEM tyre radius.

That would make a difference in sidewall height. Which would change sidewall stiffness.

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Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 11, 2017, 08:19:59 PM
I think centre of gravity could make a big difference in tyre pressures.

Also the rim width of the 109 is quite wide, so the aspect ratio is probably different, in order to get to the OEM tyre radius.

That would make a difference in sidewall height. Which would change sidewall stiffness.

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  yep... you may have something there... the STeed's rim width (as embossed on the rim) is 5inches... some may be 5.5... the 109RT looks to have 8inch rims and takes a 225/60-16 tyre... so, yep, different horses for courses... and of course - our STeeds are prettier!

  ... and as an added bonus - previously, 4000rpm = 110-ish kph (and the FI light comes on if you hold there too long or go over).... seems to be a ST13003 quirk... and now 3999rpm = 118-ish kph (not an exact scientific trial), no FI indicator light ... good darts!
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Biggles on September 12, 2017, 09:41:31 AM
Very interesting side effects!
Just ONE RPM changes the FI behaviour...    :crazy
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Yorkie on September 12, 2017, 08:58:18 PM
Have a read of this, explains different bead profiles and how the tyres are attached to the rim,   http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15560 (http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15560)
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Gavo on July 26, 2020, 09:45:14 PM
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Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Gavo on July 26, 2020, 09:47:15 PM
I’ve got 100 kms on the 195/60/16 original was 185/60/16 I bearly notice a difference if any


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Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on December 13, 2021, 08:10:20 PM
I am thinking about going to the darkside when I need a new rear tyre (so not for a little while yet) and would appreciate an update on this.

Did you get a better life out of it?

Is the handling still up to scratch?

Are you still in the dark or have you gone back to the light?
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on December 14, 2021, 07:43:06 AM
Hey Dave... We're still happily riding on the Darkside... We  thoroughly recommend it... I use our STeed and an attached trailer as my daily work commute (about 30ks/day)... The Darkside tyre wear has been negligible... We even run a Darkside rear on our Piaggio scooter.
  ... better life out of it? You betcha! ... Better wear, better ride, better grip, and Kate says better comfort for the pillion... The only guide to tyre wear is that I've worn out and replaced my front tyre and we're nowhere close to needing to do the rear, even though we tow and go two-up regularly.

  ... handling still up to scratch? ... Can't tell the difference... I still scrape my pegs... Still love riding the twisties.

  Miss Scarlett, our STeed, has the dreaded FI sensor malfunction, meaning that our top speed is 120kph - I've never attempted warp speed on our Darkside... And finally, when I changed my front tyre, I also removed the rear and lubed the splines at the same time...Hope this is informative, John&Kate.

Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on December 14, 2021, 09:32:30 AM
I am thinking about going to the darkside when I need a new rear tyre (so not for a little while yet) and would appreciate an update on this.


Hi Dave, you might find this thread of interest...

http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=14347.msg1283921#msg1283921 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=14347.msg1283921#msg1283921)

Having a car tyre fitted to a motorcycle would also likely bring up roadworthy & insurance issues so I guess you need to weigh up whether you want to run that risk.  :popcorn
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: West Aussie Glen on December 14, 2021, 11:30:44 PM
In Oct I finished a ride from Perth to Barkly Homestead, Victor Harbor and back to Perth. A little before leaving I fitted a car tyre to the rear of my GL1800 and a rear motorcycle tyre to the front. Called going double darkside. The rear has now done about 14,300 kms and the front 13,500 kms. It does handle a little different with the rear wanting to tramline when crossing a significant longitudinal surface difference. But I am more then happy with the way it performs and you just get used to it. The front is showing little wear and I am hoping for maybe 30,000 kms from it. Unfortunately the rear has worn faster on the lefthand side and I think I will be lucky to get about 20,000 kms from it which is what i was getting with a motorbike tyre but at two thirds the cost. I intend to stay with a car tyre the next time but look at a different make to see if the talked about double kms is a possibility. I am also sure that I will get better traction when braking hard from the rear tyre. I have only heard of one person going back to a bike tyre from a car tyre and that was for an unusual reason. There is a lot about the darkside on facebook for Australia and the America. Some where there is also a great video of a CT on an ST1300 taken from almost ground level.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on December 15, 2021, 09:56:49 AM
https://youtu.be/KnWnEBbGVKE

https://youtu.be/Bw4wxlUQYSg

https://youtu.be/5dbKoavfmqU?t=3560
The whole video is worth watching but the "darkside" discussion starts at 59 minutes & 20 seconds and then continues in the following video...

https://youtu.be/4EZYtAEuG04
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on December 15, 2021, 10:00:45 AM
Some where there is also a great video of a CT on an ST1300 taken from almost ground level.

Is this it???  8)

https://youtu.be/wXjfSMtgQa0
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on December 15, 2021, 12:05:39 PM
The following article is worth a read...

Examining the “Dark Side” - Car Tires on Motorcycles

By Tom Austin from the 2015 Fall/Winter issue of Iron Butt Magazine


https://forum.ironbutt.org/index.php?threads/examining-the-%E2%80%9Cdark-side%E2%80%9D.9/

A list of motorcycle model/passenger car tire combinations that have been “successfully” used can be found here:

http://darkside.nwff.info/?p=tires

You will need to use a VPN set to America to view though...
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on March 31, 2022, 02:15:52 PM
Well...I've done it. Gone to the Dark.

Bridgestone DT30 Dayton in 195/45. It is about an inch smaller in diameter, and narrow enough to slip straight in while inflated to 36psi.

I have put 240-odd kms on it today, and found no major difference in the handling. As John said above, maybe a bit stiffer going into corners, but that could also be the 30kmh side wind I was fighting through. It seems about the same on the dirt, maybe a little less twitchy when it is a little loose, but again, hard to tell with the wind.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on March 31, 2022, 03:25:21 PM
I know it's very tempting to cross to the "dark side" but for me personally I wouldn't do it as you'll find the bike will be unroadworthy and then of course there's the issue with insurance coverage or lack of when they realise your motorcycle is not roadworthy and also not ADR compliant...  :law

I guess only YOU can determine whether the savings in tyres is worth that risk...  :popcorn
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Brookester on March 31, 2022, 04:27:56 PM
I know it's very tempting to cross to the "dark side" but for me personally I wouldn't do it as you'll find the bike will be unroadworthy and then of course there's the issue with insurance coverage or lack of when they realise your motorcycle is not roadworthy and also not ADR compliant...  :law

I guess only YOU can determine whether the savings in tyres is worth that risk...  :popcorn
The topic of unroadworthy and insurance has been flogged to death over the years and yet nobody has seen it eventuate, some LD riders have even had experience with claims and this myth has never eventuated.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on March 31, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
Of course just because you don't know anyone that has had roadworthy or insurance issues doesn't mean it hasn't happened or it won't happen though!  :||||

It only takes one knowledgable copper or insurance assessor to notice and then those "savings" have gone out the window...

At the end of the day I'm just putting it out there so people can make an informed decision as to whether the risk is worth it or not...  :popcorn

Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Brookester on March 31, 2022, 06:37:22 PM
Well actually I know of 2 people that have the car tyre listed on their insurance policies as modifications. There is also nowhere stated in any State or Territory that you make a vehicle unroadworthy, only states tyre is in acceptable condition. Also the ADR you refer to does not specifically state it either. So yeah have a bit of experience with it, and Oh, thats right, I work for the relevant State Department concerning the so called issue.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Brookester on March 31, 2022, 06:42:50 PM
Wheels and tyresOn all wheels (including any side-car wheel), the tyre size must be suitable for the rim. Each tyre and rim must be strong enough to support the machine when it is fully loaded. A tyre fitted to a motorcycle must be free of any apparent defect that could make the vehicle unsafe.A tyre fitted to a motor vehicle must, when first manufactured, have been rated by the tyre manufacturer as suitable for road use at the vehicle’s top speed.Most tyre specialists can tell you the right tyre and rim for your motorcycle and the appropriate tyre speed rating.All tyres must have a clearly visible tread pattern and a minimum tread depth of 1.5mm across the entire primary tread pattern.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on March 31, 2022, 08:16:01 PM
A tyre fitted to a motorcycle must be free of any apparent defect that could make the vehicle unsafe.

So you don't think that the completely different profile of a car tyre compared to a motorcycle tyre would not be seen as a "defect" that could make a motorcycle unsafe?

Then there's also the fact that there's quite a difference between a car tyre bead and a motorcycle tyre bead, and the differences in rim profiles (see pic below)...

(https://i.ibb.co/rc16Ym7/Motorcycle-vs-Car-Rim.jpg)

It's worth downloading the following:

https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/-/media/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-modifications/QLVIM_Sep21.pdf?la=en (https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/-/media/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-modifications/QLVIM_Sep21.pdf?la=en)

QLVIM Overview
 
This Queensland Light Vehicle Inspection Manual (QLVIM) provides an assessment framework for the detection of vehicle defects or unsafe vehicle conditions. This QLVIM aligns with nationally harmonised vehicle standards and provides a framework with practical, easy to understand information for identifying and managing defects in light vehicles, light trailers and L-Group Vehicles.

The QLVIM was formerly titled Code of Practice – Light Vehicle Inspection Guidelines.


Under Section 7. Wheels and tyres
The following reasons for rejection for wheels and tyres are to ensure that road wheels and tyres are of a suitable type and condition and they provide the necessary load carrying capacity, speed rating, and control of the vehicle.

7.3 Tyres

a) Tyres are not compatible with the rim to which they are fitted. LV LG T

 

Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on April 06, 2022, 05:37:03 PM
Just an update:

I decided to contact my motorcycle insurance company (Swann Insurance) regarding whether you would void your insurance by fitting a car tyre and they came back with this:

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We do not accept any motorcycle where a car tyre has been fitted. Unfortunately, it is outside our Underwriting criteria and your cover would not be honored.

So, I guess you run a car tyre on your motorcycle at your own risk...
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: West Aussie Glen on April 06, 2022, 07:41:07 PM
Just an update:

I decided to contact my motorcycle insurance company (Swann Insurance) regarding whether you would void your insurance by fitting a car tyre and they came back with this:

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We do not accept any motorcycle where a car tyre has been fitted. Unfortunately, it is outside our Underwriting criteria and your cover would not be honored.

So, I guess you run a car tyre on your motorcycle at your own risk...

So just like riding a motorbike  :grin
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on April 06, 2022, 08:46:24 PM
Yep! Fortunately doing that doesn't void my motorcycle insurance...yet!  :runyay
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on May 09, 2022, 09:20:29 PM
In spite of Rusty's mis-givings, I went ahead with this last month.

It rides no differently to the bike tyre that I can feel, but is much happier on dirt, even loose dirt.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: West Aussie Glen on May 09, 2022, 09:48:51 PM
In spite of Rusty's mis-givings, I went ahead with this last month.

It rides no differently to the bike tyre that I can feel, but is much happier on dirt, even loose dirt.
Details please.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on May 09, 2022, 10:13:51 PM
In spite of Rusty's mis-givings, I went ahead with this last month.

It rides no differently to the bike tyre that I can feel, but is much happier on dirt, even loose dirt.

Goodo!  :thumbs

It wasn't so much misgivings on my part though, it was more about just ensuring that riders considering going to the "darkside" were aware of the potential risks...
If riders are happy to accept that, then I say go for it!
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on May 10, 2022, 05:21:17 PM
In spite of Rusty's mis-givings, I went ahead with this last month.

It rides no differently to the bike tyre that I can feel, but is much happier on dirt, even loose dirt.
Details please.

Glen, I put a 195/45-17 Bridgestone Dayton DT30 on it. I bought a static balancer, and the tyre place gave me some nice black stick-on wheel weights, and it took 15g or so. The 195/45 is about 25mm smaller in diameter, but the speedo difference is only a k or two. I use my GPS as a speedo/odometer anyway.

When I took it out to test the cruise control yesterday, I found that it was much better on the dirt that was graded last week, in that it was much less 'sqirrely' when a loose patch came up or had to be crossed. She used to give a good head shake on a bike tyre in the same conditions, to the point that a fresh grade would keep me in the car for a good three weeks.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on June 05, 2022, 08:05:11 PM
I got caught in the rain today, and found no difference on either the bitumen or the dirt, which is not in good repair and is quite muddy in spots. It felt solid and secure in corners and on loose stuff and mud.

So I am very happy with it, but am not going to go double darkside when the front needs replacing.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on June 05, 2022, 09:16:55 PM
That's good to hear, Dave!

I'm curious, have you noticed how much your speedo is now over reading?

By my calculations I reckon your real speed at an indicated 100 would probably be closer to 90, have you checked it with a gps?

If that is indeed the case you can always correct your speedo with a "Speedo Healer", they cost around $120 - $130...  :thumbs

Cheers  :beer
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: StinkyPete on June 06, 2022, 06:47:32 AM
I got caught in the rain today, and found no difference on either the bitumen or the dirt, which is not in good repair and is quite muddy in spots. It felt solid and secure in corners and on loose stuff and mud.

So I am very happy with it, but am not going to go double darkside when the front needs replacing.

What pressure are you running?
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on June 06, 2022, 08:37:17 PM
Rusty: The speedo was always slow, and is now a little slower-about the ten ks that you thought. I use my GPS as a speedo to set the cruise, and as a fuel guage because the odometer is also reading high, of course.

Pete: I am running it at 36psi or so, give or take a pound or two. I have to admit that it feels and rides nicely so I haven't played around with it much.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on June 06, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
Rusty: The speedo was always slow, and is now a little slower-about the ten ks that you thought. I use my GPS as a speedo to set the cruise, and as a fuel guage because the odometer is also reading high, of course.

So you'll be running up the k's quicker than you actually are, not too much of an issue I guess, until it comes time to sell.

If you did fit a speedo healer, besides correcting the speedo, it will slow the speed that your odometer clicks over...

https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/sh/ (https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/sh/)

And no, I'm not involved with the company...lol...just a satisfied customer!  :beer
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on June 07, 2022, 08:48:09 PM

So you'll be running up the k's quicker than you actually are, not too much of an issue I guess, until it comes time to sell.


The only reason I would sell is either it is beyond repair, or I physically can't ride it anymore. I don't think odometer readings will matter much in either case.


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If you did fit a speedo healer, besides correcting the speedo, it will slow the speed that your odometer clicks over...

https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/sh/ (https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/sh/)


Maybe when I have a few spare dollars, or I might look at the Mc Cruise one instead. Keep it local if I can.

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And no, I'm not involved with the company...lol...just a satisfied customer!  :beer

 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on June 07, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Fairy nuff, Dave... :thumbs

Re their speedometer correction add-on, there doesn't seem to be any info (besides a pic) on their site and not even an installation manual that I could see so I'm curious to know what it can (or can't) do and what you get for your money.

I'm all for buying Aussie made too but I also like to know what I'm buying...  :crazy
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 08, 2022, 02:15:29 AM
Fairy nuff, Dave... :thumbs

Re their speedometer correction add-on, there doesn't seem to be any info (besides a pic) on their site and not even an installation manual that I could see so I'm curious to know what it can (or can't) do and what you get for your money.

I'm all for buying Aussie made too but I also like to know what I'm buying...  :crazy
I think you will find MC just do the same thing as Speedohealer, take the signal from the pulse generater and increase or decrease the frequency.  Will let you know in a month or so when I finally install mine.
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on June 09, 2022, 08:26:10 PM
Will let you know in a month or so when I finally install mine.

We will hold you to that Glen. A full report, with all the details, and photos of the process to go with it. (Please?)

Or just a single line-'I did this, it works'.

Whichever you prefer. :p :p :p
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on June 09, 2022, 08:49:08 PM
I'm curious as to whether this is a standalone "speedo healer" or does it only work in conjunction with the cruise control...  :think1
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Dragonstaff on June 10, 2022, 08:49:19 PM
I'm curious as to whether this is a standalone "speedo healer" or does it only work in conjunction with the cruise control...  :think1

From looking at their website, it appears to be an 'add-on' to the cruise control rather than a stand-alone unit. Understandable for $83.00. If it was stand-alone for that price, they wouldn't keep up with demand. :whistle :whistle
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: Brock on June 10, 2022, 10:32:37 PM
The speedo alters the signal from the speed sensor to the speedo basically, allowing for corrected speed display.. It makes the trip meter in accurate but.

This is for the 1300, the 1100 is driven directly from the front wheel..
Title: Re: The Lure of the Darkside
Post by: ruSTynutz on June 10, 2022, 11:38:38 PM
I'm curious as to whether this is a standalone "speedo healer" or does it only work in conjunction with the cruise control...  :think1

From looking at their website, it appears to be an 'add-on' to the cruise control rather than a stand-alone unit. Understandable for $83.00. If it was stand-alone for that price, they wouldn't keep up with demand. :whistle :whistle

It's pretty much clear as mud...lol

It makes the trip meter in accurate but.

It's already inaccurate with the smaller diameter tyre on Dave's bike...using the speedo healer would probably help bring it back closer to normal...