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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2013, 08:26:01 PM »
Thank you all, very helpful :wht11
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil" - Last resort to get a filter off
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2013, 11:06:59 AM »
I'm just about to do my first oil and filter change on the ST1300 and have read how difficult a filter can be to remove. Reminds me tho of the last time I helped my son do an oil change on his car.
We couldn't find the Supercheap filter remover I use so I simply used a Phillips head screwdriver and stabbed the filter near the bottom, allowed the filter to drain, put the screwdriver all the way in and then levered it off. It was easier than using the remover.
I don't know yet whether the Honda filter can be accessed to do this tho. Will find out soon.
A Ryco Z436 filter with trade discount at Supercheap is $12.37 as at 2day.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2013, 06:19:36 PM »
Equivalent filter at Repco is about $8.00
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2013, 08:10:14 PM »
I don't know yet whether the Honda filter can be accessed to do this tho. Will find out soon.

You can get one of those "band" type removers around the ST1300 filter, but only have about 10o of movement.  That's usually enough to break the seal unless some muscular type screwed it on too tightly.

The K&N filters have a 17mm nut forged into the top of them which is gold, but too easy to over-tighten.

There is room for the stab technique if you decide to go all Fred Flintstone on the job.

Be ready for the spurt of oil onto the left centre stand leg if you unscrew it without stabbing and draining first.

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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2013, 03:21:45 AM »
Go to a Honda motorbike dealer and buy a Honda filter and oil filter remover tool in a pack for about $35 I think
They are worth there weight in gold :thumb and a genuine Honda part  :thumbs
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2013, 01:05:24 AM »
Well i did my first oil change on  the ST yesterday, was a lot easier than i expected! Filter came off with out any hassles and even got the new one on with out a struggle. I used a pair of adjustable pliers.
I opted for the Ryco Z436 filter and Penrite 15w 50 Diesel oil (its a W.A. Summer ridden only bike, so i figured 50 or even 60 for the heat we experience over here), all up i had change from $50  :thumbs  .

The only way i can describe the oil that came out is "YUCK" :eek . It was very thin ...... and BLACK !.........  Within 2 minutes of changing it and starting up the bike, i could hear it was so much quieter than before, and the gear change is a little smoother i think as well.

I did check the Final drive, it was full, clean and still very viscus so i will hang off on that for now.
Brake and clutch are also good so no need to touch them either.

This leads me into my Question, what sort of radiator additive does everyone use, if any at all ??




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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2013, 05:19:31 AM »
I have recently put in nulon 10w-40 as I had some left over. Took a couple of weeks but the gear chage is now extremely quiet. Going to try shell h5 next but I think a good quality diesel oil is way to go. Have used it for years regardless of type of car or bike never had any problems
 

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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2013, 07:50:27 AM »
I have only used the Nulon red long life coolant that is already premixed.  It lasts for years and comes out clean.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2013, 01:29:18 PM »
I have only used the Nulon red long life coolant that is already premixed.  It lasts for years and comes out clean.

Same as above but concentrated.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2014, 11:47:39 AM »
I am just about to change the oils on my ST1300A.  I would like your thoughts on an oill to use.  I used Penrite HPR10 gas in my Beemer and I have checked that this is compatible with the ST.  Please throw some suggestions at me. :think1

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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2016, 11:52:36 AM »
Oil & Filter done today....

Penrite HPR30 20W-60 & K&N 204....


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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2016, 08:42:13 PM »
I use K&N 204 for ease of removal and ppenrite Everyday full synthetic 10-40. 6 litre. Watch for it on special at Supercheap
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2016, 12:13:22 AM »
Castrol 4T 15-40 is what I use, 20-60 would be a bit heavy especially during winter months I think :think1
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2016, 12:41:49 AM »
Castrol 4T 15-40 is what I use, 20-60 would be a bit heavy especially during winter months I think :think1
I use same brand but can only get the 15w-50 in Port Pirie - I'd better start looking at prices for the next oil change soon.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2017, 08:12:06 PM »
Shell Helix HX5 15W-40 on sale at SuperCheap Auto until Sunday- 5 litres for $16.49, limit 2.
Also Auto Glym and Maguiars cleaning kits under $50- a decent saving on the single items with a great divided bucket containing the Glym kit.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2019, 09:42:04 PM »
Super Cheap Auto have a "big sale" on, and Gulf Western oil is being promoted.  I'm trying the Gulf Western 10W 40 SYN-X 3000.  It's on promo at $18.49 for 5 litres which you need for the ST13- 4 litres isn't enough.  That company makes a huge range of products, most of them actually manufactured here in Australia- that's a good enough reason to give them your money.  The reviews of their products look pretty good.

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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2022, 08:05:42 PM »
Seeing as how the latest 'oil' comment in the three threads linked above  is 2019, I though that it might be time to open the subject again.

What is the 'good oil' for a 1300 with 155k and that tows occasionally?
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2022, 10:43:20 PM »
Shell Helix HX5 Diesel Oil 15W-40 is still a great option and one a few guys have been using in their ST's for years :thumbsup

Gulf Western 10W 40 SYN-X 3000 is also a great one :thumbs

Or if you want to spend a bit more money for oil that has a motorcycle rating:
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2022, 11:15:22 PM »
I've been using Penrite 10W-40 Full Synthetic for quite a few years now...

I know there are quite a few members running diesel & car based oil but I'd rather stick to something that's specifically designed for motorcycles and wet clutches, even if it does costs a little more...


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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2022, 12:06:47 AM »
I use the Penrite diesel oils 20W40 as in the previous threads. Its wet clutch fine. It meets or exceeds the required specs. The difference to the "Motorcycle Spec" oils is marginal, and you dont pay the premium price.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2022, 12:29:28 AM »
Hey Brock, did you mean 15W-40, or possibly 20W-60 as when I tried to look up 20W-40 there's nothing listed...  :think1

https://penriteoil.com.au/products/viscosities/20W-40


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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2022, 11:06:48 AM »
Not sure Rusty I would need to check.

Checked back to the middle of the first page of this thread..
Penrite HPR 20W-60 extra ten Diesel.. Also using the Repco ROF135 oil filter.. much cheaper than Honda and works just as well.
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2022, 09:28:51 PM »
Same here, run in temps from -5 to 45c, and my st13 just rolled over 100,000km.  Valve clearances never needed changing, and no oil burnt between changes, same on last bike (GSXF750) 130,000km .


I've been using Penrite 10W-40 Full Synthetic for quite a few years now...

I know there are quite a few members running diesel & car based oil but I'd rather stick to something that's specifically designed for motorcycles and wet clutches, even if it does costs a little more...
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