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Offline Brett

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Heat Issue
« on: August 24, 2014, 10:52:45 AM »
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Hello, I have a 2010 ST1300 and after about an hour of riding the heat gets so bad that my inner thighs get burnt. I wear Kevlar jeans but still am having an issue.
Has anyone else had this issue and how have you fixed it.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 11:12:39 AM »
If you did a search you will see that this is a common issue with this model. You will also find the ways that members have dealt with it with more or less success.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 11:25:06 AM »
When I was doing my research before buying an ST1300 the heat issue was the most common issued raised,  (Well that and Pan Weave.  Er ....and the weight and the top heaviness and the difficulty parking)  but it appears to be very idiosyncratic

My 2004 ST1300  gets warm but not uncomfortably so even on a 40 deg day and yet I know another guy who has the same problem you do.  Maybe it is a year model thing because his is a 2007 I think.

On the face of it there should be no reason why one bike would run hotter than an identical bike but, assuming the cooling system is ok,  could it be some engines are running leaner and so hotter  than others?  A smarter guy than me would have to answer that.

As an aside I have been looking at buying a Triumph Bonneville and you can tell which ones have had the air injection removed by looking at the pipes. The ones still with air injection have deeply blued pipes from the extra heat the air injection generates.  If the ST's have air injection maybe the extra heat is due to a malfunction in that. Again the tech guys would need to answer that.

 The only other thing I can think of is something is disturbing the airflow under the fairing and deflecting to heat to unwanted areas.  I have been running my bike without the lower fairings while I sort out another problem and the bike definitely runs cooler without them.

 (It would have to, the pipes are exposed. It looks very cool I might add! If only the pipes were chromed!! )

 It only takes five minutes to take the lower fairings off why not give it a go and see if it solves the problem. Then you will know it is an airflow thing.

 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 12:53:43 PM »
One of the simplest ways of minimising the heat problem is to fit a sheepskin seat cover.  It will improve the seal between the seat and the tank, and reduce the hot air escaping  from under the bodywork to places it's not needed.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 12:54:05 PM »
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 01:02:23 PM »
One of the simplest ways of minimising the heat problem is to fit a sheepskin seat cover.  It will improve the seal between the seat and the tank, and reduce the hot air escaping  from under the bodywork to places it's not needed.

Do you think it has something to do with the seat position?  mine is in the lowest maybe the higher positions allow the heat to escape
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 02:41:04 PM »
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Strange but I never feel and heat when ridingunless I stop at traffic lights on hot days (eg 40 or so)

Early model though 2003 no abs, and additional side fairings fitted

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 02:55:54 PM »
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Strange but I never feel and heat when ridingunless I stop at traffic lights on hot days (eg 40 or so)

Early model though 2003 no abs, and additional side fairings fitted

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Same. Mine is 2004 model so maybe the early bikes don't have the problem as much.  That would make an interesting survey. Age of bike vs if heat is a problem or not.  It may indicate if the issue is associated with the age or year model of the bike.  Mine also has the additional wind deflectors.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 06:20:12 PM »
I have a sheepskin on my 2009 ST13.  It still gets very toasty around the calfs.  I use my highway pegs when out of the traffic to reduce the problem.  One simply cannot wear shorts (unwise for other safety reasons anyway).
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 06:53:01 PM »
I have a sheepskin on my 2009 ST13.  It still gets very toasty around the calfs.  I use my highway pegs when out of the traffic to reduce the problem.  One simply cannot wear shorts (unwise for other safety reasons anyway).

 Now that would be a look. Baggy shorts on highway pegs.

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2014, 06:56:12 PM »
Now that would be a look. Baggy shorts on highway pegs.

You know what they say Biggles. It pays to advertise!!

Dunno what it pays, but baggy shorts don't become my slender figure!    :p

The highway pegs will put a draft up your legs though.  Which is a minus in winter when you have to either tuck them in the boots or slip on bicycle clips.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2014, 09:08:18 PM »
I have a 2004  :blu13 and have had major heat issues like yourself  :eek
On a peculiarly hot ride home from Esk a couple of years ago I found the tank was so hot my legs were burning through my Kevlar jeans whenever they touched the tank :H :H :H

The issue for me was fixed with two items I highly recommend :thumbs

  • Bagster tank cover (This blocked all the heat that was coming off the tank from getting to my legs :-++)
  • MCL Highway Blades (Just as Biggles said, they are a great way to get airflow directed up your legs :thumbsup :runyay 8))


Anyway that was the fix for me, make sure to let us know what you find works for you :hatwave
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2014, 05:46:44 PM »
Well that put  paid to my theory about the year model! Mine is a 2004 without heat issues.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2014, 05:54:41 PM »
On an '04 here as well. They are certainly a warm bike but I have not experienced the kind of heat as previously expressed. For what it may be worth, I do have a full custom fitted sheepskin seat cover.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2014, 01:59:59 PM »
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. A lot of ideas to try- some I've already tried. I might get a tank cover and see how that goes.
 
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2014, 07:50:37 AM »
Id certainly be checking the cooling system first... I can't see any reason for such heat issues between models unless something was not right....

Firstly, are both cooling fans working ? Do the cooling fans come on at the same temperature as the earlier models ( I don't have the specs, but perhaps some research might dig up something). I know that my bike (2002) doesn't have to get very hot before the fans actuate... Different types of coolant perhaps ?

I doubt whether the fuel mapping would have changed that much between models, it may vary slightly, but wouldn't be enough to make it run that hot...

I've never had any heat issues with my bike at all, thank goodness :)


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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2014, 05:47:16 PM »
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I had the bike checked, cooling system is ok. I have ordered a tank cover- hoping that will help. Thank you all for all your help. I will let you know if the tank cover works.
 

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2014, 08:57:32 PM »
Good luck mate :hatwave
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2014, 10:00:58 AM »
Mine is the same age as yours Shiney, and I only get warm. Weird.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2014, 08:42:50 PM »
  for what it is worth on my 2005  I have wind deflectors and sheep skin seat covers with seat set on lowest setting
my fuel tank is always cold to touch   however in the week before Texas/Inverell on a trip to town I lost the small piece of fairing that you remove to top water
 on left side       now with this missing the left side of my fuel tank is heating up and while riding can feel hot air coming up along the entire length of the left side
of the tank   right hand side cold as no hot air felt any where

      just my observation     (  new parts should be here this week so back to cold tank )


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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2014, 01:15:39 PM »
I have an '03 model, but have never noticed any heat issue. I gather from the above discussion that the problem is coming from the tank and I have had a Bagster tank cover since soon after I bought the bike. I do remember that the bike came with some stick-on rubber pads for the tank sides, so if they were missing presumably you could heat transfer through the tank metal.

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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2014, 09:22:29 AM »
Having just bought my 2005 ST1300, i have just returned from a short ride and my legs have been roasted with the heat from the engine. It heats up after only 5 ks and doesn't seem to cool down. HELP  :H
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2014, 09:39:13 AM »
Having just bought my 2005 ST1300, i have just returned from a short ride and my legs have been roasted with the heat from the engine. It heats up after only 5 ks and doesn't seem to cool down. HELP  :H

Have you read this whole topic through?  There's not much else that can be said.
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2014, 09:48:37 AM »
Having just bought my 2005 ST1300, i have just returned from a short ride and my legs have been roasted with the heat from the engine. It heats up after only 5 ks and doesn't seem to cool down. HELP  :H

Have you read this whole topic through?  There's not much else that can be said.

only 5km seems a little odd though?
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Re: Heat Issue
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2014, 10:43:09 AM »
sorry that was 15k not 5k.....Still it is unbearably hot.
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