PR3's R Gr8 but here's a tyresome query...

[ST.George]

G'day STriders, STreakers, STrippers & STrudel-Munchers,


I was working on a new camera mount that will b the subject of n upcoming thread when I was about 2 do a driveway trial of the new setup when I looked at my rear PR3 and saw a round silver dot on the tyre that was, as suspected, an embedded Phillips head screw:





As u can see, I screwed it out a little 4 the foto. There is no sign of deflation so the screw is likely 2 b relatively short in the near new tread.


So here's my query: If, on removing the screw, the tyre stays inflated, rather than inserting a puncture repair plug and thereby using part of my repair kit, I was thinking of injecting some rubber contact adhesive into the hole on the presumption that if the tyre has not deflated then the interior radial ply has not been pierced and therefore the integrity of the tyre has not been violated. Contact adhesive is pliable and water-proof so should do the job.


Waddiya reckon peeps. The screw has been there awhile coz it's quite worn and caused no problem.

[StinkyPete]

My view is that even if the screw has not fully penetrated the tyre carcass, it is a significant weakness, and thus needs to be dealt with.   We trust our lives to a couple of palm size patches of rubber on the road, and I want my patches to be 100% reliable.    The "do-it-yourself" tyre repair methods which fix the puncture by plugging it from the outside, no matter how good they are, are emergency repairs, designed to get you moving again.   I believe they should be replaced with a properly fitted mushroom plug, inserted and glued from the inside, to ensure 100% reliability.    If it were mine, I'd take the tyre to a motorcycle tyre fitter and have it properly repaired from the inside.

Others may have other opinions.

[Biggles]

Your glue option will not withstand the stresses placed on the tyre.
While I'm satisfied with the worm  (rope) plugs, I agree the mushroom route is the safest repair.

[Streak]

I am with Biggles and Pete, I would get a proper professional repair done. Can't be to careful!

[ST.George]

Much appreciated responses there. 


Being a PITA (Pain In The Arse) tho, what about this: If I can ascertain that the the screw has less depth than the surrounding tread then perhaps this puncture is just an unintentional part of the tread pattern???
I'm saying that if the puncture is less deep than the tread then the carcass can't b harmed.
And if I'm wrong, why can't I get one of those mushroom plugs and insert it myself by just breaking the bead on one side and exposing the inner tyre. Or r these mushroom plugs more demanding and require more special equipment than I'm aware?


Your responses r saying b very careful, I get that - but m I really in that dangerous category if the screw is short enough?

[ST.George]

Don't waste your time answering guys, what it boils down to is judgement - if I'm convinced the screw is not dangerous then take it out and ignore it - otherwise do as u said and repair it properly.

[ST.George]

As it turned out the bad screw (say no more) is serious and will require an appropriate repair.


Went back and looked at the RideOn product mentioned in earlier posts this year. Anybody had any actual xperience with it? It protects the centre part of the tyre supposedly for the life of the tyre.

Exciting news coming shortly Members - stay tuned.       
Cheers, Diesel

Diesel - I'm assuming u didn't get the response u were after. 

[Shiney]

I had it in the tyres on my cruiser years ago.
One time when I had the rear tyre changed it was discovered to have 15 punctures (I hadn't even noticed)

[Pezzz]

I bought it but have not put it in yet. Require 3 bottles for ST1100.

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[Biggles]

I had it in the tyres on my cruiser years ago.
One time when I had the rear tyre changed it was discovered to have 15 punctures (I hadn't even noticed)

Soooo.  Why don't you still use it if it was that good?

[Diesel]

It's good! Also helps balance the wheel.


St George - Pete and Biggles have said EVERYTHING you need to know right there.


The moment you leave the driveway of the tyre place with that repaired potential puncture, is the same moment you get that peace of mind feeling of having dealt with the problem.


No one on this forum will advise you to try and save a few bucks by cutting corners where your safety may be compromised.


You raise valid points through your scientific analysis of the 'depth of the wound' etc...


But 50 bucks to make this problem go away for another 17,000kms is easy 'sleep' money to me.


There's a few things you don't skimp on in life:
- Toilet paper
- Coffee
- saucepans
- carving knives
- motorbike tyres.


hope this helps.


Cheers, Diesel

[Shiney]

I had it in the tyres on my cruiser years ago.
One time when I had the rear tyre changed it was discovered to have 15 punctures (I hadn't even noticed)

Soooo.  Why don't you still use it if it was that good?

Actually I do
I run it in the tyres on the ST but haven't had a lot of punctures like I dd with the cruiser tyre to use as an example

[ST.George]

Quote from: Diesel on September 16, 2014, 10:29:21 PM<blockquote>
It's good! Also helps balance the wheel.

St George - Pete and Biggles have said EVERYTHING you need to know right there.

The moment you leave the driveway of the tyre place with that repaired potential puncture, is the same moment you get that peace of mind feeling of having dealt with the problem.

No one on this forum will advise you to try and save a few bucks by cutting corners where your safety may be compromised.

</blockquote>


I have no interest in finding a cheap way out by cutting corners - just the possibility that this screw could b short enough to have caused no harm. But that's gone now and I was simply asking whether RideOn is one of the valid solutions and if so did u make contact with an importer and set up a discount. I'm assuming nothing came of it and if I want to try this product go ahead and find some myself (Shiney uses the stuff and I followed his links and can buy 4 about $20 per bottle delivered).

It seems that after all the video evidence that DriveOn was not considered by StinkyPete, Biggles etc as a valid repair bcoz they haven't tried it and there4 don't trust and that's fair enough.

[Diesel]

Yes, I did set up a discount for Members - one of the biggest vendor discounts available for Members in fact - have a look here (Preferred Suppliers thread)....


http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5797.0


It has a fair bit of info about how to order etc etc.


Brendan is a great guy and will be only too willing to help out.


Hope this helps

[Pezzz]

Yes, I did set up a discount for Members - one of the biggest vendor discounts available for Members in fact - have a look here (Preferred Suppliers thread)....


http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5797.0


It has a fair bit of info about how to order etc etc.


Brendan is a great guy and will be only too willing to help out.


Hope this helps

You will have to view their site in Internet Explorer. It misses all the menus in Chrome and Firefox. I spoke to them about it and they told me it was how their web site was written and there is nothing they can (will) do about it.

[Biggles]

You will have to view their site in Internet Explorer. It misses all the menus in Chrome and Firefox. I spoke to them about it and they told me it was how their web site was written and there is nothing they can (will) do about it.

My Chrome Version 37.0.2062.120 m is having no trouble.

[Brock]

I didnt appear to have any problems with firefox 32.01

[StinkyPete]

Fine with the latest Chrome on my desktop.

[Pezzz]

They must have fixed it then ....
Just checked and it was the LSM Technologies website that only works with IE .... sorry ...
As they are the ones offering the discount that is where I went. I never went to http://www.ride-on.com/  but I see that works....

[JC]

I've been using a plug tool that is very similar to this one from Dynaplug. 
It has been very successful and reliable.

http://www.dynaplug.com/products.html