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Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« on: October 11, 2017, 06:56:50 PM »
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Nah, just tricking.

I did an oil change recently.  Filled it until it appeared in the visi-glass, then ran the engine until the oil light went out.  Then filled it to the middle of the lines and ran it again.  Checked it stayed in the range and chalked up another win for the goodies.

I put it up on the centre-stand today to prep it for a big week coming up (CMA National Run that we're hosting in Brissie).
And wouldja believe it?  The oil visi-glass is full, just like it had been over-fill by one of Honda's apprentices.  It's expanded?  (It was cold).

So, expert panel.  As the sadly departed Professor Julius Sumner Miller used to ask, "Why is it so?"
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 07:07:32 PM »
 :think1 My amateur guess - you filled it to the site gauge then ran the engine - This meant the oil got spread to the upper reaches and then you filled it again  - Therefore once time allowed for all the oil to settle in the pan again you had inadvertently overfilled  :o
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 07:16:58 PM »
Did you allow enough time for the oil to drain back to the sump after turning the motor off.

I fill to just below the top level, let motor run for a few minutes - more than enough time to pump oil through the system and fill the filter. Then I turn the motor off for five or ten minutes while I transfer the old oil into an old empty oil container.

Check level again top to just below the top mark if more is needed.

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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 08:18:12 PM »
Did you allow enough time for the oil to drain back to the sump after turning the motor off.

You're both onto the same idea- not allowing enough time for the oil in the top of the engine to return to the sump by gravity.
I'm reasonably sure I did.  Any suggestions as to how long one should leave it?

All this is helpful to folk contemplating doing it themselves for the first time and maybe worried they'll break something.

As has been mentioned elsewhere, it's important not to overfill it.  One m/c workshop did it to one of our ex-members and it caused damage to seals in the engine.
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 08:56:58 PM »
I believe the 5- 10 minute timeframe is good. Or. When the level settles and isnt going up any more.
It is critical though to prevent to issue you ahve raised.
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 09:22:53 PM »
The Owners Manual says to run the engine for 3-5 minutes, and then let the bike stand for 2-3 minutes.
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 09:32:36 PM »
The Owners Manual says to run the engine for 3-5 minutes, and then let the bike stand for 2-3 minutes.

Ah!  A word from the wise.  One who actually reads the Manual!  I hadn't even thought of going there for an answer!
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That's longer than I ran the engine.
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 06:15:42 AM »
..... One who actually reads the Manual! 

..... when all else fails, read the instructions .....  How did you get to your advanced years without following the rules?
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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 09:16:41 AM »
..... One who actually reads the Manual! 

..... when all else fails, read the instructions .....  How did you get to your advanced years without following the rules?

He cheated. :grin :grin :grin

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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 12:05:06 PM »
My fill method may not be to your choosing but it works for me  :nahnah

Install a new filter....fill until it "nearly" reaches the top of the window.

Start the bike....run the bike for a few minutes and check the oil later.....level always at middle of the window now that you have filled the filter  ;-*


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Re: Another oil question. Is it possible!?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 06:00:56 PM »
..... One who actually reads the Manual! 

..... when all else fails, read the instructions .....  How did you get to your advanced years without following the rules?


He cheated. :grin :grin :grin

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