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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2015, 09:09:50 PM »
First I would disconnect one side to see which one is causing the high spot.  Then I would try swapping the LEDs from one side to the other to see if that fixed the problem.
From memory, cars designed for driving on the left left hand have a high spot on low beam to the left to light up sign posts and the opposite for those designed to drive on the right. This usually built in to the lenses. I first noticed it on a VB Commodore.

Thanks for the tip.  I was going to do a bit of investigating to find the cause, and you've given me some ideas.   My clearance light are now LED as well   :thumb
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2015, 09:10:37 PM »
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Check my edit above as well.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2015, 08:23:49 AM »
How did it go Pete?
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2015, 08:50:12 AM »
How did it go Pete?

I didn't get a chance to have a fiddle before I went to the Vic Logan RTE, but did a reasonable amount of night riding on the way over and back.   The beam pattern looks like crap, and there's no cut-off which may be influenced by the reflector shape. I did lots of fiddling with the adjuster for beam height and when it was OK on Hi Beam, Lo was far too high.   I need to work out which side is throwing the high spot on the right, and check for even the seating of the LED globes as a possible cause.  They are certainly not twisted as the photos seem to suggest, and are both nicely horizontal in the housing.  I reckon I had better forward penetration and a decent cut-off with my H4 65/55 +120's.   The LED position lights are fantastic.

If I can't resolve this, it might turn out to have been an unfortunate self-education expense.   I wonder if I could claim it on tax? 
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2015, 09:31:27 AM »
I had high hopes for those. At more than twice the price of mine, I thought they would be better. I really did like the ability to adjust the colour.

Shiney had one of the ones like the ones I had on my bike fitted on the left yesterday and the standard bulb on the right. I'm still amazed how much difference it makes.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2015, 06:46:35 PM »
It is a big change, and I like it :thumbs

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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2015, 08:53:23 PM »
Shiney, I have a couple of LED clearance lights here for you to replace your blown ones. I meant to give them to Carol yesterday.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2015, 08:05:13 AM »
From memory, cars designed for driving on the left left hand have a high spot on low beam to the left to light up sign posts and the opposite for those designed to drive on the right. This usually built in to the lenses. I first noticed it on a VB Commodore.

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A second look at the top photo looks like the errant LED could be in at an angle.
I agree and think that they may be designed for Right Hand Drive countries. You might have been shipped the wrong globes accidentally.
 

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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2015, 09:09:11 AM »
I agree and think that they may be designed for Right Hand Drive countries. You might have been shipped the wrong globes accidentally.

That thought had occurred to me, but they are an Aussie company , shipping to an Aussie address, and I see no options on their web site for vehicles driving on the left or right.   I will persist in seeking a satisfactory solution.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2015, 05:59:19 PM »
I'm pretty sure that the globes arent country specific, its the headlight lenses the determin the light pattern
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2015, 06:22:09 PM »
I'm pretty sure that the globes arent country specific, its the headlight lenses the determin the light pattern
That is what I was trying to say before.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2015, 08:00:45 PM »
Maybe you guys are right, but I've just been trying to check by comparing part numbers between US, UK and OZ sites, and they all quote the same part numbers for both the headlight and bulb, so I'm confused.
 

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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2015, 08:18:42 PM »
As well the normal low beam protecting forward Car headlights (back in the VB Commodore days anyway) had the glass lens on the left with a diagonal thickening of the glass which projected low beam up to the left to illuminate road signs. The right lens also projected up to the left as well.

I don't think motorbikes had the same set up. I haven't noticed it, on any I've seen, it was just that StinkyPete's light pattern reminded me of it.

Sorry if I've confuse anyone.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2015, 10:13:27 PM »
As well the normal low beam protecting forward Car headlights (back in the VB Commodore days anyway) had the glass lens on the left with a diagonal thickening of the glass which projected low beam up to the left to illuminate road signs. The right lens also projected up to the left as well.

I don't think motorbikes had the same set up. I haven't noticed it, on any I've seen, it was just that StinkyPete's light pattern reminded me of it.

Sorry if I've confuse anyone.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2015, 11:06:14 AM »
I'm hot on the trail of the light pattern problem.  The dud pattern was coming from the right side, and it appears that I had installed either one or both D2D globes upside down.   With that problem corrected they now show a nice pattern against the wall of the shed, with a good differentiation between high and low beam.  Night testing is still to be done, and I'll take some more photos of the corrected beam pattern like I did before.  With a forecast max of 38 today, and dripping humidity, it's time to vacate the shed.   :H
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2015, 12:39:26 PM »
Well chased down Pete.  I thought today could have been a good day to stoke up the forge.   It cant make the shed that much hotter  ;-*
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2015, 01:33:57 PM »
That would do it. You in inadvertently changed the focal  length
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2015, 01:47:59 PM »
I'm hot on the trail of the light pattern problem.  The dud pattern was coming from the right side, and it appears that I had installed either one or both D2D globes upside down.   With that problem corrected they now show a nice pattern against the wall of the shed, with a good differentiation between high and low beam.  Night testing is still to be done, and I'll take some more photos of the corrected beam pattern like I did before.  With a forecast max of 38 today, and dripping humidity, it's time to vacate the shed.   :H


Isn't there tabs on the base that only allow the bulb to go in one way?

Still, it's good to hear that you have gotten it sorted out :thumbs
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2015, 01:56:26 PM »
Isn't there tabs on the base that only allow the bulb to go in one way?

There is a plate which has the three tabs, and the globe inserts into a bayonet mount through the middle of the plate.  The plate is fitted first and held in place with the globe spring clip.  The globe can then go in either way up, as the bayonet lugs are 180 degrees apart.
A brief video of how the globes fit can be seen at    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HJRv0qtrw&feature=youtu.be    which "martinc" poster earlier in this thread.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2015, 02:11:05 PM »
Isn't there tabs on the base that only allow the bulb to go in one way?

There is a plate which has the three tabs, and the globe inserts into a bayonet mount through the middle of the plate.  The plate is fitted first and held in place with the globe spring clip.  The globe can then go in either way up, as the bayonet lugs are 180 degrees apart.
A brief video of how the globes fit can be seen at    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HJRv0qtrw&feature=youtu.be    which "martinc" poster earlier in this thread.

I must have missed seeing that vid :||||
It looks like a interesting way to install a bulb (as long as you know it can be installed upside down :fp) :thumbs

Did you find it to be easier to install then a normal bulb?
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2015, 02:16:22 PM »
It's much the same as fitting a standard bulb, not difficult at all, and can easily be accomplished without removing tupperware.  The most challenging part is that the rubber boot compresses a bit when the globe is inserted, and thus it's a bit tight as it locks into the bayonet mount.
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2015, 02:50:49 PM »
It's much the same as fitting a standard bulb, not difficult at all, and can easily be accomplished without removing tupperware.  The most challenging part is that the rubber boot compresses a bit when the globe is inserted, and thus it's a bit tight as it locks into the bayonet mount.

Sounds good :thumbsup
I look forward to seeing what the lighting is like with the bulbs refitted :thumbs
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« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2015, 03:21:43 PM »
With At least the ST having Honda's H4 globe non standard tab locations did you have any issue when fitting the LED globe mounting ring?
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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2015, 03:58:39 PM »
With At least the ST having Honda's H4 globe non standard tab locations did you have any issue when fitting the LED globe mounting ring?
I cut off the two bottom ones, just like you would do with any H4 globe.   :thumb
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Re: D2D Accessories Online
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2015, 10:43:37 AM »
Hey Pete,

It must be sweet relief to have a much cooler day today.

I'm really looking forward to viewing some updated pictures of the low beam cutoff. I have been holding off getting a pair of these "globes". The light might be showing the end of the tunnel.
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