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Title: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: ST.George on February 26, 2015, 05:32:17 PM
G'day STriders,

Here's a sample video of my new action cam setup using filtering and quick acceleration to test this system:

What do u think about the quality?

   
      http://youtu.be/O84dm8WiwtA (http://youtu.be/O84dm8WiwtA)      


I just tested it myself and YouTube has made it fuzzy. Not sure why.
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: Totgas on February 26, 2015, 06:32:10 PM
Needs a better mounting point or a different mount all together - very jiggly. See what you mean about the quality - not great - Sorry. What type of Camera?
A.
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: alans1100 on February 26, 2015, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: Totgas on February 26, 2015, 06:32:10 PM
Needs a better mounting point or a different mount all together - very jiggly. See what you mean about the quality - not great - Sorry. What type of Camera?
A.

Camera location and finding a minimum vibration place to mount a cam on a bike is not always easy to do. I thought the quality was okay for a view through the screen. Other than that the image is only 480p which doesn't make for a good image on 1080p desktops but 720p is a good compromise unless you wish to view at full screen.

The trade off is file size, the better the quality the larger the file. I'm still getting to grips with my GoPro and sorting out what works best is down to trial and error
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: ST.George on February 26, 2015, 07:46:24 PM


Quote from: Totgas on February 26, 2015, 07:32:10 PM (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=8872.msg103600#msg103600)<blockquote>Needs a better mounting point or a different mount all together - very jiggly. See what you mean about the quality - not great - Sorry. What type of Camera?
A.
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I used the YouTube option of reducing shakes - however the result is "jiggly" - it was far steadier b4 using the option. I'll tell u what cam it is (not an xpensive 1 tho), after I get it going as well as I can on YouTube. On my computers the quality is acceptable at 720. Very different after uploading to YouTube. I have tried many mounting points and this one is the best so far, as I said, the YouTube option anti-shake option is the main prob at the moment.
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 26, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
It was a bit jiggly, but still quite good for purpose.
Cars can be identified, etc, so it just depends what you wish to achieve.
It really wasn't that bad IMO.
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: Pezzz on February 26, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
Looks ok to me.. the eyes look pretty cool there ....  :like
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: alans1100 on February 26, 2015, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: ST.George on February 26, 2015, 07:46:24 PM
I used the YouTube option of reducing shakes - however the result is "jiggly" - it was far steadier b4 using the option.
I wouldn't use that option. I tried it on one of my still cam 720p movie files and made it worse.

I don't know what compression software they use on You Tube but it reduces the quality heaps. What you put up still runs rings around some of the stuff I've seen so it's all good.



Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: Biggles on February 26, 2015, 08:28:39 PM
Looks good enough in the box on the forum.
Bike mounting beats that %$#@!! annoying "look right, look left, look right again" head movements in most vids.
Good to see you at 80 past the camera.
I used to hate seeing people sitting a few metres back from the line at lights, but now I love slipping into that gap.
It sounds like you work 1st, 2nd and 3rd then skip 4th.  Works for me!
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: alans1100 on February 26, 2015, 09:16:36 PM
Quote from: Biggles on February 26, 2015, 08:28:39 PM
It sounds like you work 1st, 2nd and 3rd then skip 4th.  Works for me!

Nice to know I'm not the only one that does that
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: ST.George on February 26, 2015, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: Biggles on February 26, 2015, 08:28:39 PM
Looks good enough in the box on the forum.
Bike mounting beats that %$#@!! annoying "look right, look left, look right again" head movements in most vids.
Good to see you at 80 past the camera.
I used to hate seeing people sitting a few metres back from the line at lights, but now I love slipping into that gap.
It sounds like you work 1st, 2nd and 3rd then skip 4th.  Works for me!
I usually do clutchless upshifts that r synchroed with throttle blips and r very quick. I like skipping 4th sometimes also but I went thru all 5 in the vid. The background music might have masked the 5th change.
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: ST.George on February 27, 2015, 04:21:02 AM

Here's the same video without using YouTube's anti-shaking option. The jiggles r gone but the original (not the 1 above, the actual original) is much sharper.
 :H  Took 3 hours 2 upload this 5 min vid. We need a faster plan!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye7bMN4Dtrw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye7bMN4Dtrw)
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: ST.George on February 27, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: Pezzz on February 26, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
Looks ok to me.. the eyes look pretty cool there ....  :like
Wyvern's eyes r always watching and glare in no uncertain terms if I speed excessively, don't check all our mirrors, don't check our tyre pressure or any other way of not being an alert dragon jockey. ;)
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: Totgas on February 27, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
Better, however I realised I'm biased because my camera has a geo stabiliser built in. Stabilisation really does make a difference.
I guess that why helmet mounts seem smoother because your body is absorbing a lot of the minor shocks.
You can purchase really expensive geo stabilisers or make your own. This website shows you how and the difference.

http://www.prutchi.com/2012/03/09/d-i-y-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer-that-really-works/ (http://www.prutchi.com/2012/03/09/d-i-y-gyroscopic-camera-stabilizer-that-really-works/)

I would also recommend, if possible trying to get the camera away from behind the windscreen as it adds a degree to blur and slight distortion.

Keep going you are moving in the right direction.

For those of you on a tight budget there are some top quality dash cams out there that don't need batteries and with the right software the 15min snapshots can be easily joined together.
This is one I highly recommend however it does need to be in a waterproof enclosure if intending to use in all weather conditions.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-G1W-C-Car-1080P-Dash-Camera-DVR-NTK96650-Chip-AR0330-Lens-Capacitor-Vision-/161579740294?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item259ee72c86&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-G1W-C-Car-1080P-Dash-Camera-DVR-NTK96650-Chip-AR0330-Lens-Capacitor-Vision-/161579740294?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item259ee72c86&_uhb=1) But not necessarly this seller.

A.

Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: Biggles on February 27, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Totgas on February 27, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-G1W-C-Car-1080P-Dash-Camera-DVR-NTK96650-Chip-AR0330-Lens-Capacitor-Vision-/161579740294?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item259ee72c86&_uhb=1[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-G1W-C-Car-1080P-Dash-Camera-DVR-NTK96650-Chip-AR0330-Lens-Capacitor-Vision-/161579740294?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item259ee72c86&_uhb=1[/url]) But not necessarly this seller.


Pretty impressive at that price, with a screen on the back.  Bonus- free postage!
Title: Re: Testing new cam setup - Filtering Ride
Post by: ST.George on February 27, 2015, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: Totgas on February 27, 2015, 09:07:35 PM (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=8872.msg103679#msg103679)<blockquote>
I would also recommend, if possible trying to get the camera away from behind the windscreen as it adds a degree to blur and slight distortion
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(http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/_gregorypb/7aef02dfc9b8a31f92401a2e496a0910_zps6d1562aa.jpg)

I like the cam's position behind the screen coz it negates the need for the cam's weatherproof housing which is a possible source of blurring. It enables me to talk to the camera while on the move and thereby add narration when appropriate. Also, I don't like helmet cams coz they vary in viewing angles 2 much (agree with Biggles). This cam has anti-shake software built-in. Also, as u can c, I have elastics that r absorbing some vibration. BTW the screen wasn't as clean as it can b either.
Thnx 4 your comments tho - the links were interesting.  :thumbs