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Self-balancing motorcycle
« on: June 20, 2014, 05:23:08 PM »
Check this out... I'm not sure it's much help on a side-impact, unless it was just a tap...

C-1 from Lit Motors

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvvsRBSroA


Maybe not for me, but I wonder a new motorcyclist will be buying 2030?

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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2014, 05:40:37 PM »
The last few seconds of the clip are really interesting. 8) :wht11
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 06:11:24 PM »
Smoke and Mirrors, Smoke and Mirrors  :crazy

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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2014, 06:28:02 PM »
I'm guessing "gyro-stabilised", but it would be a powerful gyro that didn't tip when side impacted. 
So, it's very heavy flywheel in the gyro, or extremely fast spinning.  Either way it's going to use power and lots of it.
Is there a side stand or does the gyro just keep spinning while madam goes shopping for hours?
And if it's gyroed, it would need to have steering input to the gyro, or it wouldn't lean in corners.
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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2014, 06:31:59 PM »
OK- now I've read the blurb- it's gyro-stabilised.
AND climate-controlled!!
WITH premium sound system.

So it's really a 2 wheeled car for city slickers.
AND it's all electric, so fergeddabout FarRides.

They're the Kubo makers- the scooter for carrying TV sets.
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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2014, 06:34:37 PM »
I'm guessing "gyro-stabilised", but it would be a powerful gyro that didn't tip when side impacted. 
So, it's very heavy flywheel in the gyro, or extremely fast spinning.  Either way it's going to use power and lots of it.
Is there a side stand or does the gyro just keep spinning while madam goes shopping for hours?
And if it's gyroed, it would need to have steering input to the gyro, or it wouldn't lean in corners.


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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 06:37:28 PM »
Another take on the Quaser of the seventies.

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 06:39:10 PM »
"However, the C-1 uses a drive-by-wire system. That allows it to have the familiar, intuitive interface of a car, while using two-wheeled turning dynamics. This is where the gyro technology gets really interesting: the C-1 takes information from a wide array of sensors to determine everything that’s going on around it, from road surface conditions to wind to traffic. The vehicle is then able to take input from the driver – from the steering wheel and accelerator/brake pedals – and translate that into both movement of the front wheel and a precise lean angle to complete the desired turn."

It doesn't actually say it, but this implies a substantial amount of the turn is accomplished by loading the gyroes (there seem to be two under the floor) and a little bit of front wheel turn.

The other question I had is answered by the fact the motors are in the hubs, so there's no space in the cabin lost to motors.
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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2014, 06:27:37 PM »
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Is there a side stand or does the gyro just keep spinning while madam goes shopping for hours?

A double side stand (one on each side) is shown early in the video.
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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2014, 08:53:49 AM »
Interesting concept, but I agree with Biggles, and that it's a short range novelty two wheeled car.    Not for me, cause I won't get wind blown, wet, cold or hot, depending upon the weather, and besides, all my mates would laugh at me.  I know a bloke who sold his GS1200 for one of those Piaggio scooters with two front wheels.  Everyone is still giving him lots of stick.   :rofl
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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2014, 10:58:53 AM »
Interesting concept, but I agree with Biggles, and that it's a short range novelty two wheeled car.    Not for me, cause I won't get wind blown, wet, cold or hot, depending upon the weather, and besides, all my mates would laugh at me.  I know a bloke who sold his GS1200 for one of those Piaggio scooters with two front wheels.  Everyone is still giving him lots of stick.   :rofl
but now  o:) Pete there is really nothing wrong with the 500cc Piagio duel front wheel.
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Re: Self-balancing motorcycle
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2014, 08:38:24 AM »
but now  o:) Pete there is really nothing wrong with the 500cc Piagio duel front wheel.
One of our lady members with only 2000ks on a learners licence came form the Nothern Tablelands down to Ballaratt and back again.  :Stirpot
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2014, 06:18:44 PM »
But you have to buy three tyres instead of two!

$100 for the rear, $65/ea for the front.. not an issue :)
 

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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2014, 06:21:12 PM »
But you have to buy three tyres instead of two!

$100 for the rear, $65/ea for the front.. not an issue :)

Stop it!!  You'll make me a covert!   :p

When I can no longer hold up Ruby (and it's harder every day) I might be looking for 3 wheels.
Maybe not that small, though.

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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2014, 06:50:13 PM »
Here is a blurb on the original 1912 Wolseley Gyro Car

http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/gyrocars/schilovs.htm
 

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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2014, 06:53:48 PM »
And here is a Yank version from the 1967.

http://www.cobbsblog.com/gyro/gyro-x-menu.html
 

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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2014, 07:21:40 PM »
Here is one of the Gyro-X being driven (about halfway down the page).

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/1967-gyro-x-self-balancing-car-to-be-restored.html