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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2018, 02:54:41 PM »
Racking the grey cells, the DTE comes on at a fixed number of litres remaining and the distance is based on the average consumption since the last fill.

Around town I rarely saw it, mostly on long distance rides when I used to go under rhe 5l/100 km consumption.

Once had it come on at 99 km.

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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2018, 07:05:30 PM »
I figure that the odometer will be as accurate as the speedo on the 1300. That is about 10% out. You may need to factor that into your figurings.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2018, 08:32:13 PM »
I figure that the odometer will be as accurate as the speedo on the 1300. That is about 10% out. You may need to factor that into your figurings.

...only if you wanted to compare it with other bikes, or absolute values.  For our purposes it's just "as read" from the data.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2018, 05:42:38 PM »
I suspect that when the DTE comes on, it is based on set litres remaining and the current consumption. Reasoning? If I'm are taking it easy on the highway, I often see 90km left when the DTE is first displayed. If doing the mountains, it is more often than not 70km. You also notice a rapid decline when going from highway to suburban riding during that phase. JME. (Just my experience)  :grin
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2018, 09:22:59 PM »
You're right, Skip.  Page 21 of the Manual says the DTE initialises at 5 litres remaining.  There no reference to its deriving its rate from an average from the last fill.  The context in the Manual implies the DTE is based on the consumption rate at the time of initialisation, which is confirmed by your and my observation.
Another aspect that has been alluded to quite a long time ago when this subject was last beaten around the scrub, is the unreliability of the DTE kms after the ignition has been turned on and off a couple of times.  For that reason, I try to pounce on the Trip A reset as soon as the left segment starts flashing, and work on 65 km available around town regardless of the DTE's read-out.  Uninterrupted, the DTE is quite reliable.  I use a spreadsheet and allow 1 litre unusable (it's actually 0.8 litre) and compute the distance remaining at refill using the fuel added to a standard fill point.  The computed DTE is within a couple kms of the indicated DTE or Trip meter figures.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2018, 09:32:30 PM »
Thanks for the research, I was wondering about this myself.   Cheers
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2018, 09:47:13 PM »
and work on 65 km available around town regardless of the DTE's read-out.  Uninterrupted, the DTE is quite reliable. 
For the most part I wouldn't get to the point where the DTE activates and no doubt refill before it got there.

Never gone more than a few km after the low fuel warning on the 1100.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2018, 10:04:35 PM »
Never gone more than a few km after the low fuel warning on the 1100.

It really is worthwhile testing the accuracy of your fuel indicator by going for a ride to empty, noting all the indications.  Of course, you have a can of fuel in the pannier to get you to the servo once you run out.  It's especially useful if you're going to do the big rides, as you do.  There will come a day when the servo you counted on will be closed/unavailable/empty, and you'll need to know just how far you can go.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2018, 10:45:47 PM »


It really is worthwhile testing the accuracy of your fuel indicator by going for a ride to empty, noting all the indications.  Of course, you have a can of fuel in the pannier to get you to the servo once you run out.  It's especially useful if you're going to do the big rides, as you do.  There will come a day when the servo you counted on will be closed/unavailable/empty, and you'll need to know just how far you can go.
Let the 1100 run out once to test the low fuel warning light - took a little while to get it fixed. 

I have used this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sweypro.driverdiary for the 1100 over the last four years and I have an estimated range based on the last four fills of 465km but I work on 300km when towing with spare fuel on board.

The 1300 has been set up on it as well and it gives an estimated range at the moment of 600 km but I think that's unusually high because I've mainly only done 2600 km of highway riding and not really any stop/start riding.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2018, 12:27:45 PM »
It would be downhill at 80kph with a tailwind that would return 600 km.  Settle for 550 at the outside, with 500 regularly achievable.
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Re: ST1100/ST1300 Comparison
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2018, 03:39:45 PM »
My best was just over 550 km with a lot of drafting behind Semi-trailer.

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