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OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« on: April 13, 2014, 06:34:02 PM »
OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket




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We have an opportunity to design and purchase our own OzSTOC Branded jacket, the above is only a rough idea, as we get to design it from the ground up.

A big thank you to Mark from Zen Motorcycle Gear (www.zenmotorcyclegear.com.au) for the opportunity to this.

SET IN STONE

Colours will be OzSTOC Colours (Black/Orange/White)
We will have to order a minimum 40 jackets
Total order will have to be pre-paid for (we have to work out design before price)
There will be no returns
Jacket comes with a 12 month Manufacturers Warranty
Sizing: for simplicity we will be doing men's sizing only
All jackets would have CE approved armour elbows shoulders back.
Price: Design has to be decided before price is settled on

The above is all the Logistics side, we have to work out sort of jacket we would like

THE DESIGN PART

Because we get to design our own jacket, we want your feedback on the following Questions (Please cut and paste your answers):

   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?

   Length of jacket short or touring style?

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?

   Should the thermal lining be removable?

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?

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Can we keep all thoughts an opinion’s constructive please, this is a great opportunity to do something unique for the club
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2014, 07:08:32 PM »
Oy vey !
Great idea,but I'm staying out of this one.
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2014, 07:15:41 PM »
Fabric : textile
Length :touring style
More ventilation for hot weather.
Possabily waterproof pockets !!!
Vent under arms and poss across back.
Removable water proofing
Below 5 degrees mmmm ye shouldn't be out in that lol so you could always put on another thin layer.
Yes it need to be suitable above 30 degrees.
Could also have ozstoc across back in fluorescent .
And yes I would buy one of the above pictured ones, looks smart.

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2014, 07:17:39 PM »
OK, my 2c worth!

   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?    Textile for me, answers to the following quetions explain why.

   Length of jacket short or touring style?  Touring style, as it will be a single item, not part of a 2piece suit. Hate the cold draught on the lower back with shorter jackets!

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation. Good point! Need good ventilation

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation  Large pockets, and plenty of 'em. Reflective strips/panels (  maybe where the white is )

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation? My Aerostitch has zips under the armpits and the usual zip across the back for ventilation which works very well

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining Waterproof, rather than a lining. It takes too long to dry the jacket if on a multi day ride

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?  An internal removable liner would be a good option

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining? See above answer

   Should the thermal lining be removable? Definitely, the temperature varies too much in Australia

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees? Absolutely, the temp is over 30 too often when riding in Australia

My thoughts for now, will probably remember more in time!!
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2014, 07:20:39 PM »
   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?

Textile, breathable

   Length of jacket short or touring style?

Closer to the touring Length

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation

Possibly mesh panels in the front of the jacket

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?

Yes, vents in arms, front and back, as the ST's disperse a lot of the air so need plenty of opportunity to get sir into the jacket

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining

I would be happy with a removable waterproof lining, or the jacket being waterproof with big vents than can be zipped up

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?

Yes

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?

Not a must for me, as I wear a vest under my jacket

   Should the thermal lining be removable?

Yes

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?

Yes


Apart from the above, I would like well placed reflective piping on the jacket to go with the orange for visibility, and decent pockets.

What I have in my head at the moment  :thumb
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2014, 07:34:30 PM »
I like the idea of a touring length jacket in textile (cordura) . Zippered vents that run up/down either side the front that can be zipped from top and bottom to control ventilation, zippered vents in the sleeves below the elbow and zippered vents at the shoulders and across the back. A couple of waterproof pockets on the front and an internal waterproof pocket on the rhs of the main zip. The jacket should zip up the front with a velcro closure over the top to stop draughts.The jacket should have an elasticised waist so that,it doesn't flap around, and the wrists should have a zip allowing them to expand for ease of putting on with a velcro closure over the top so they can closed snugly. It should have hi-vis piping along the shoulders and arms. Armour in the elbows and the back. The jacket could have a zip in liner either waterproof or quilted, I don't use jacket liners, I have several hanging in my cupboard. In wet weather I wear a raincoat over the top and in winter I have a polar fleece to go underneath.

I already have all this in a Collins Aqua touring jacket but it is getting a bit old and I like the colour scheme in the example above, I would definitely buy one if it had these attributes.

Leather is a waste of time for me, as in the tropics as it is just too hot. I figure the ST is a touring bike and I find I'm very comfortable in a touring jacket.

Well that's my 87.5c worth....
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2014, 07:47:12 PM »
   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?
:- Textile or Hybrid.
   Length of jacket short or touring style?
:- Touring style
   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.
:- Definately needs under arm vents and a Zipped one on the back would be great.
   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining
:- Removable waterproof lining is a must
   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?
:- Yes also removable.
   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?
:- Yes see above.
   Should the thermal lining be removable?
:- Yes
   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?
:- Oh God yes

Now that design is awesome, I love the colours.

Would the Ladies jacket be styled the same?
« Last Edit: April 13, 2014, 07:57:01 PM by sargent »
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2014, 07:51:00 PM »
   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?  TEXTILE

   Length of jacket short or touring style? TOURING

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation. MORE VENTILATION

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation. LOTS OF LARGE CARGO STYLE P0CKETS, COLOR AND DESIGN SIMILAR TO EXAMPLE WITH HIGHLY REFLECTIVE MATERIAL IN WHITE AREAS. WET WEATHER REMOVABLE INSERTS, WATERPROOF HOODIE INSIDE COLLAR

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?  YES!!!  MESH PANELS ALONG CHEST AND BACK AREA FOR FLOW THRU, AND ALONG ARMS AND TOP OF SHOULDERS.


   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining?  REMOVABLE LINING

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?  YES BUT THROUGH USE OD REMOVABLE LINING.

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining? YES!!!

   Should the thermal lining be removable?  YES!!!

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees? YES!!!
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2014, 07:53:14 PM »
  Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?

   Length of jacket short or touring style?  Touring

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.  Good ventilation

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?                                                  Not sure where but the more the better for summer

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining      Waterproof jacket

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?   Not essential for me can always wear layers under

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?     Removable thermal lining

   Should the thermal lining be removable?

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?              A definite for me


     Love the colours in the drawing as is
 

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2014, 08:07:57 PM »
I love the idea of an OzSTOC jacket and I will certainly buy one.


   Fabric for manufacture:   Textile.

   Length of jacket:   Touring Style.

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?      Yes. Front, back & Arms.

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof?   No.

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?   Yes.

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?   Yes.

   Should the thermal lining be removable?     Yes.      

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?   Yes.

And the design of the jacket here looks great.

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2014, 08:17:18 PM »
I am with ray the roo killer. Love the colours in the illustration too.




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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2014, 08:18:09 PM »
Fantastic information so far! Keep it coming!

Just a side note about sizing, for simplicity we will be doing men's sizing only, due numbers and manufacturing, but we will be able to cater to the girls sizing and equal it to the mens if that makes sense.

 
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2014, 08:20:29 PM »
   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid? Textile

   Length of jacket short or touring style? Touring

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation Yes

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation? Yes chest arms etc.

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining. Waterproof (removable) lining and waterproof pockets.

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees? Rather use my own thermals and still have them when off the bike.

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining? See above.

   Should the thermal lining be removable?

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees? Yes
We would be interested in 2 jackets in XXL would like to see grey rather then black. :clap :clap :clap :clap
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2014, 08:25:07 PM »
Just a thought but before going through the process of designing the right jacket are there enough people in the market for a new jacket?

Not being a killjoy just speaking from experience.  : ;-*
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2014, 08:27:02 PM »
Just a thought but before going through the process of designing the right jacket are there enough people in the market for a new jacket?

Not being a killjoy just speaking from experience.  : ;-*

That's why we are doing this part to establish what is wanted in a jacket, and then we will gather numbers :thumb there will be plenty like me who will buy one simply because it is an OzSTOC jacket  :runyay
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 08:31:13 PM »
Just a thought but before going through the process of designing the right jacket are there enough people in the market for a new jacket?

Not being a killjoy just speaking from experience.  : ;-*

That's why we are doing this part to establish what is wanted in a jacket, and then we will gather numbers :thumb there will be plenty like me who will buy one simply because it is an OzSTOC jacket  :runyay

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2014, 08:44:40 PM »
   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?        TEXTILE.

   Length of jacket short or touring style?                   TOURING STYLE.

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.      WELL FAIRED, NEED MORE VENTILATION

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation    YEP, AS ABOVE.

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?    FORE & UPPER ARMS, CHEST, AND OPEN BACK PANEL TO FLOW THROUGH.

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining   REMOVABLE LINERS ARE BEST, WHICH ALLOWS BEST VENTILATION WITH THEM OUT.

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?  YES, WATER PROOF LINER AND THERMAL LINER (just like the IXON jackets)

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?  YES AS ABOVE.

   Should the thermal lining be removable?  YES AGAIN.

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?   YES, IF WELL VENTILATED, IT WILL BE OK. 

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2014, 08:48:34 PM »
For everyone who is interested we have just made up a form so we can keep you in the loop, and also keep track of numbers as we have to get to a minimum run of 40

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2014, 09:11:51 PM »
Well, here goes with my 2 cents worth!!

Bugger as well, I have only recently gone through the 'new jacket' process and finally decided on a Dririder Airflow jacket.  I am NOT disappointed with the buy either.  Lots of storage, removable thermal liner, 100% waterproof (I can vouch for that, recent first hand torrential rain experience!!) plenty of ventilation is needed.  It ticked all the boxes for me, then again this may not suit the majority.  But I strongly recommend a look and compare what is on the market.

The concept of a Club jacket is bloody great and I want one NOW!!!!  however, I think that the process of coming to an agreement will be more like trying to manage a hat full of spiders rather than herd cats!  I will watch this space in anticipation of a 'quick' decision (lol)....http://ozstoc.com/Smileys/default/wink_copy.gif

This club has some real thinkers and doers within the membership so I look to the brains trust (there are already some very relevant comments posted by some very astute members) to sus this out and make a well informed decision.


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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2014, 09:18:15 PM »
I think
Textile jacket
Water proof outer shell
Air vents chest left and right and across shoulders at back with water proof zips , have leather straps in the zips so you can grab with gloves to operate with gloves on.
Water proof chest pockets large wallet size.
One extra waterproof pocket loose enough to put change in for parking money or toll fees so you don't have to dig about for a wallet with gloves on, Velcro flap.
Water proof waste pockets large size.
All pockets with Velcro hold downs or glove friendly zips with leather thongs you can grab with gloves.
Removable winter liner.
Touring length .
I like the the fore arm and upper arm adjusters to keep th jacket tight and not flapping about.
Pocket on left forearm with clear screen for mobile phone.
Pocket on right forearm for toll way tag.
Push stud on collar to hold left and right collars closed with elastic , not Velcro as I seen to find it damages the jacket and scratches your neck. I normally cut the Velcro off.
Thin wet weather hood in the outer collar to wear under helmet to stop rain running off the helmet and down your back.
Front collar flap fixed on one side and attaches to other side with push studs to cover your throat and neck in winter or rain , extended up to chin, folds back and clips onto jacket when not needed.
Bright bright safety colour.
Pull cord on waist for firm fit.
Pull cord on hips for firm fit to stop draft in winter.
Removable insert around the back of the jacket , in winter acts as a kidney belt keeping vital warmth in kidneys, in summer acts as a useful extra large pocket.
Realistic arm lengths and enough room in the sleeves to wear an extra jumper under the jacket and enough adjustment in the arm straps to pull it all tight in the summer
And for me about a 5XL
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 09:25:57 PM »
 :runyay wow, what a great idea.... just beware riding together in Qld, "in club colours" hehehe could be mistaken for a Motorcycle GANG......  :butt
I like the touring length, Cordura, removable waterproof, removable thermal liner, front-rear and underarm zippers would all be great, as living in southern NSW temps range from zero and below to 35degrees plus...  . I like the colours of the sample, but lets NOT get all caught up in BEING SEEN and go overboard with reflective strips etc, or if we do at least make them UNSTITCHABLE...... for those of use who don't want to look like we work on the docks.....

then I read SABIE,s post.... and now I want a summer jacket too, textile/mesh, removable waterproof thermal integrated liner, ....

looking forward to staying involved in this discussion... :think1
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 09:29:55 PM »
   Fabric for manufacture - cotton, leather,  textile, or hybrid?
Textile. Preferably a cordura with a denier rating of around 500 for the main part of the jacket and a lot higher for the shoulder and arm areas down past the elbow

   Length of jacket short or touring style?
Touring style of course (well we do ride a Sports Tourer)

   Consider the wearer of the jacket is riding a well faired bike that needs more ventilation.
??

   Any other specific design features? E.g.  Additional mesh panels for ventilation
+ Highly adjustable neoprene collar (helps stop chaffing)
+ reflective material placed approximately 10cm down from the shoulder on both sleeves
+ reflective piping across chest, across back. Reflective piping down both sleeves if no provision of reflective material below the shoulder as described above
+ gusset placed on the end of the sleeves at the wrist, that is closed with a Velcro wrap around the wrist. Please, no zips in this area.
+ adjustable straps at or around the elbow area to assist in adjusting jacket to fit
+adjustable waistband using external sewn in belt to assist in adjusting jacket to fit

   Is ventilation required, placement of ventilation?
Ventilation required in the chest area, at the back and lengthways along the sleeves all of these require to be a waterproof seal when closed

   Does the jacket need to be waterproof? Removable or permanent waterproof lining
Yes, the jacket should be waterproof with a breathable textile. Doing this negates the requirements for a removable or permanent waterproof lining. A number of riders utilise outer rainwear, then there are those riders that do not ride in the rain.

   Does it need to provide protection from the elements when the temperature drops to 5 degrees?
Yes, a breathable waterproof textile will assist in colder weather, as will appropriate use of layering.

   Does the jacket need a thermal lining?
Possibly, again a number of riders wear other layered items and would negate this requirement


   Should the thermal lining be removable?
If one is designed for the jacket then yes.

   Does it need to be suitable when the temperature is over 30 degrees?
Yes, proper venting as suggested above assists with this. However so does an understanding of how to cool you upper body whilst riding in high temperatures.  For me, this is achieved using LD Comfort clothing.  Its principle for cooling relies on the long sleeve top to be wet, the vents on the sleeves and on the chest area of the riding jacket need to be open.  This then allows the area around the sleeves to cool down with the air  then being pushed air up through to the torso area forcing the heat to escape through the chest vents (if installed) or through the collar area.  I will normally hold my arm out to catch more forced air you then just repeat the process as needed.
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2014, 10:11:46 PM »
Whew........I notice everyone is opting for the touring length jacket, but I find a short jacket much more to my liking. I have a Tourmaster Transition Series 2 Touring jacket which is a really nice jacket but I much prefer to wear my very much older RJays short jacket. If I buy another jacket it will most likely be from the Dri Rider series, and short of course! I think it's a nice idea to have a club jacket, but it wouldn't be for me. And I hate to be a Grinch, but a heavily ordained orange jacket just wouldn't sit pretty on my bike, I know orange is our club colour but it's not a favourite of mine.

Short and black and I just might be interested!  Ha! :grin
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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2014, 10:48:16 PM »
Does it have reflective stripes or something, so the (Others) can see me on my pod racer?
 

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Re: OzSTOC Custom Motorcycle Jacket
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2014, 10:56:56 PM »
Does it have reflective stripes or something, so the (Others) can see me on my pod racer?

That is what we are working out at the moment  :thumbsup

If you read the first post on this forum there is a list there if you would like to fill it out with what you want in a jacket and post it up it will go into the list we are building so we can design this jacket  :thumb
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