Sorry to hear that Duncan, more then happy to ride with you anytime if my roster permits. :like
2 wheels are better then 4, sometimes, pending on there history.
or just accept new members riding other bikes who request to join?I think if we're going to go down this path, then a slow trickle would be the best way.
I will decline to vote until I give it more thought.
" Lionel, SAAZ and Paul all have other makes ..."
That's true but you should add that Lionel has 2 x ST1100Ps in reserve (1 in bits), Saaz also has 1 x ST1100P, not sure about Paul.
Just wanted to add the following comment after reading a few others. As many of you know I tend to change bikes on a fairly regular basis just to try something different. I've owned 3 ST's Honda's. I started out on and ST1100, and have owned 2 St1300's. In between those bikes I've also owned 2 x BMW K1200LT's, and a GL1800 Goldwing. I joined the BMW forum when I had the beamers but had very little to do with it.
I have always stayed with Ozstoc because that's where most of my riding friends are too. :thumb The fact I change bikes doesn't mean I change my friends, and I have always found I was welcome at an Ozstoc event regardless of what bike I rode at the time. One could never seriously say that our club has ever been elitist in that sense. :p
I think the fact that I was awarded member of the year at the very first Ozstoc National rally, and I was riding a BMW at the time, pretty much sums up the ethos of Ozstoc, and that's what makes it a great club. It's the ST Honda's that brought us all together and so long as that tradition continues, I think the club has a bright future even if numbers drop off a little down the track.
I wouldn't like to see the club become a general "sport tourers" club as I think it would loose it's heritage over time, and it opens the door to the "mine's better than yours" kind of arguments that inevitably happen. As it stands now all the members currently LOVE their ST Honda's, or have at least loved one in the past. And that makes all the difference I think? :grin
Only being reasonably new to this club, I can only give my thoughts as a newbie.
It would be my preference like others to keep this club specifically for the ST which is what makes this special. It's an amazing bike and those that ride them are great people.
I completely understand the thought process to allow other Sports Tourers to join and the value (financial) that it may bring, but I believe this is going away from why this was initially set up.
There would be nothing wrong in having set days for other Sport Tourer models to join in on rides or functions but the club itself should remain loyal to the ST and the reasons it was formed.
For all those unsung people behind the scenes who makes all this happen...Thank you.
:13Candy
Maybe NOW is the time to have a re-vote on our future and see if people that have now given it a bit more thought may want to change the vote. :think1
Whatever the governing body decides the members will have to agree as the ppl running the club are the elected ones to make the big calls, good luck guys!
Whatever the governing body decides the members will have to agree as the ppl running the club are the elected ones to make the big calls, good luck guys!
Not quiet, the "governing body" are not elected, they are just sucked into a difficult job and they are going great :-++ as did Streak and Diesel :-++
So when does this pole close Chris?
So when does this pole close Chris?
Gatey we will allow it to run to the end of the Month just to be sure we have given everyone the opportunity to participate....If we hear any rumblings of people wishing to change their vote we may enable the "change your Vote Option"
The process has been an invaluable tool for us to listen to the direction that members would like to see the club take :like
Poll has been Modified so you may change your vote if you wish & Poll can now be seen by members even if not voting.....But we would appreciate your vote if you haven't done so :likeGreat move as it appears that once people have starting hearing the arguments 'for and against' they are making a more informed decision on what to vote for.
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Keep it as is for the near future. If HD bikes/riders come in I ride in a different direction.
Curious1 I'm with you on HD riders and their holier than thou attitudes they com in I'm gone.
cheers paul.
just bear in mind with all the HD comments, it is the person not the bike that has the attitude...
several OzSTOC members have Harleys in the shed, and one of our biggest financial Supporters Esk Bakery the owner col rides a Harley, so don't judge every book by its cover...
So that's 132 votes from a total of how many current members ?
Gatey, the poll is about giving all a say, even those who stay quiet most of the time but still read the forum, so I suppose that might be a sizeable silent group. But the comments people are willing to make do help a lot, and have to be considered as well as the raw numbers. Having worked in government for many years and dealing with lobby groups and politicians, you have to be careful not to give too much weight to the most vocal, and the quieter people more often than not have far greater votes - of which politicians are well aware (well sometimes, but only when a public backlash happens! which is far more common now than it used to be)