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ABS issue after new front tyre
« on: October 18, 2017, 06:15:29 PM »
Had a new front tyre fitted this morning prior to leaving for Wooli. Should have been in on Monday afternoon / Tuesday morning at latest, but that's another story.

Anyway, fitted this morning & left for Wooli via Broken Hill. About an hour into the ride, hit a couple of bumps & ABS  warning light came on.  Pulled over, quick check, restart and all fine.  Then happened again 10 minutes later. Restart, fine.

Next time, ABS & TCS flashing.  Restart, all fine.

And again, but as brakes not seeming to be affected, hit the ABS / TCS button on the dash, flashing stopped, left with steady red ABS warning light.

There does seem to be a bit of play with the brake unit.

So, looks like the wheel &  brake unit not correctly re-installed.

I don't believe it is impacting on the ride, braking or safety, but any advice would be welcome.

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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 06:21:53 PM »
 I'd be looking for loose bolts on the brake assembly.
And some tools to tighten them.

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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 06:33:22 PM »
On the ST1300 the air gap for the ABS sensor needs to be set correctly ( little feeler gauge in tool kit) otherwise will throw up ABS fault, maybe same applies to ST1100 🤓
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 06:39:44 PM »
It’s normal for calipers to have some play but definitely no loose bolts, I wouldn’t be riding till you have checked that Sir Shillas. Ride safe and see you at Wooli.
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 06:40:46 PM »
On the ST1300 the air gap for the ABS sensor needs to be set correctly ( little feeler gauge in tool kit) otherwise will throw up ABS fault, maybe same applies to ST1100 🤓

Shillas's bike is a ST1100, so I'm  not sure if the same applies.

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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 07:00:38 PM »
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 07:26:27 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions. Have no tools on the bike to tighten up any of the brake unit.  The PDF Sir JD posted suggests bumpy roads can be a cause.

If the problem reappears tomorrow, will get it checked where I can. After refuelling in Broken Hill, hasn't appeared in the few k's around town.

I wheeled the bike out of the garage to look at in last of the daylight & it would only move a few inches before locking up. I thought that this has got serious when it seemed to be totally seized. Then I remembered to take the disc lock off  :fp
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2017, 07:34:34 PM »
After how many reds was that? :grin
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2017, 07:38:44 PM »
None thanks for asking. The first beer,  however didn't touch the sides, a hot ride & still really warm now. Second beer with dinner after a long walk. Just on third drink in three hours. 🍺
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 07:41:46 PM »
They may have not tightened up the ABS sensor bolt.

The sensor needs to be removed before the wheel is removed if needed or even if just the LH RH calliper is removed.

Most tyre fitters generally have the bike on a stand and just drop the wheel out and leave the callipers in place.

Since I've been taking the wheels down to the shop for a tyre change I haven't need to set the gap for the ABS sensor. It has a mounting pin for location and once the bolt has been tightened the gap is ok.

If you have the bike's tool kit on hand you should have all the tools needed to fix. 

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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 08:23:28 PM »

If you have the bike's tool kit on hand you should have all the tools needed to fix.

 :think1 But the knowledge on this may be a different issue!
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 08:25:17 PM »

Who did the tyre install for you??   :well

Tucker Motorcycles, but not the original mechanic I had for her.
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 08:33:56 PM »

If you have the bike's tool kit on hand you should have all the tools needed to fix.

 :think1 But the knowledge on this may be a different issue!

This is the RH calliper with relevant points noted.

Two Allen keys in your kit (if you have) will tighten up the three bolts.

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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2017, 06:39:22 PM »
Well I had a look first thing this morning. Left hand bolt all OK. But nothing in the right hand side.

Not happy Jan!

As the bike is rideable, just flashed a lot at me,  I left Broken Hill just after 7.

Research had shown a Honda dealer in Cobar, but with other brands as well.

Had a reasonably good ride, avoided the hundreds of goats, emus, birds & roadkill, a stop to get wet weather gear on (met a couple from my area of course) 

Got to Cobar, visited  M & C Parisi  Motorcycles. Problem solved in 5 minutes. No charge.

If you're ever in Cobar & have an issue, call in.  Great help. But business up for sale.

Thanks for all the advice,

Cheers

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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2017, 08:50:20 PM »
All good then but was the issue?
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2017, 08:56:15 PM »
Either the sensor bolt was not re-installed, or was left loose & worked its way out.

Basically, sensor not attached correctly and movement of the bike caused the warning to come on.
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Re: ABS issue after new front tyre
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2017, 09:17:16 PM »
Glad it's sorted.

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