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So... which fuel for your ST?
« on: February 06, 2019, 10:21:05 PM »
John Cadogan has some great automotive vids on Youtube.  He is a no-BS guy who really knows his stuff.  He is an accredited auto engineer who now makes videos that analyse many hot potato issues.  Here's what he found regarding the four different petrols.  It confirms what we would expect- you go a bit further on the expensive fuel.  You go a bit cheaper on 91.  Since the ST1300 goes a long way on a tank, I'll take the 91.  If you want to go further, by all means pay 10 or 15 cents a litre more and go further- burn 0.11 litres less per 100 km.    :runyay

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He's quite entertaining, as well as informative.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2019, 11:06:57 PM »
We run 91ULP most times in Scarlett and our MP3 250 scooter...  and 95PULP in all my small engines - mowers, etc.... they just seem to run better on the higher octane stuff... Cheers, John&Kate
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 01:50:42 AM »
Our 1100 uses 91 and E10 if I happen to be at either a Liberty or a United at time of top up. E10 is cheaper than 91 but at 94 RON is as good as PULP (95).


The 1300 usually gets 95 but on weekends I only have 91 and 98 available so if I have a ride planned then I fill on Friday at the tyre dealer and get the 4 cent discount as well. Otherwise if I have a near empty tank on a weekend I'll use 98 now that the prices have come down. I've used E10 in the 1300 the last time I went to the city in August.

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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2019, 01:54:18 AM »
The distance travelled on any particular tank can vary from day to day even over the same route.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2019, 10:28:45 AM »
Prefer to use 95. seems to give better mileage than 98, I would also say that 98 a lot more heat comes out of the bike onto legs using 98. I have used 91. it was better than 95 for mileage but the bike didn't sound happy towing the trailer .
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2019, 02:23:38 PM »
Back when I kept records of fuel usage, I found that my 1100 ran the same on 91 or 98, or e10 (or what ever) and the range was the same. The only difference was the distance for $, and 91 ( some time E10 if on special) won.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2019, 06:17:32 PM »
He has also done a vid about tyre wear and pressures, although it relates to cages specifically, but from my experience, his sentiments also work with the 2 wheel variety.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2019, 06:34:25 PM »
I follow John Cadogan on his AutoExpertTV channel.  He has a love / hate relationship with many of his viewers.  I found him informative, and whilst I don't think I'm a prude, I do find some of his language a little offensive, and especially unnecessary.  So, watch with the volume turned down, if viewing in mixed company - you have been warned.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKcC11ircL-HI7TieCr9XQg

Cadogan is also a buyers advocate, a friend of a friend used his services when buying a new car, and (reportedly) saved quite a few $000.  If I was in the market for a new car, I'd probably give as go.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2019, 06:37:40 PM »
I agree some of his language is unnecessary and adds nothing to his otherwise informative postings.   
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2019, 06:52:58 PM »
2c worth. I find him quite refreshing. Always like people that express themselves and happy to call a spade a spade. As for the fuel issue, 1100 runs perfectly on 91. Tried 95 98 E10. No value. 91 does the job without issue. New Beemer is a 98, that's what the book says, so that's what it gets. As per John, just follow manufactures recommendations and there are no issues. As per John again, using E10 is fine but you must be saving at least 8 Cpl at the pump for it to be viable. Just say`in..................BTW where`s the Blue BMW emoticon!  :wht11
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2019, 07:01:52 PM »
.... Always like people that express themselves and happy to call a spade a spade.

I agree, but he calls a spade an effing spade.

....BTW where's the Blue BMW emoticon!

On the BMW Forum.  But hey, don't leave us Nigel.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2019, 07:47:16 PM »
Leave!!!!! Not a chance you lot are stuck with me. And I don't swear? Really!!! :grin Bmw Emoticon....
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2019, 06:02:57 AM »
Leave!!!!! Not a chance you lot are stuck with me. And I don't swear? Really!!! :grin Bmw Emoticon....

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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2019, 09:39:16 AM »
Leave!!!!! Not a chance you lot are stuck with me. And I don't swear? Really!!! :grin Bmw Emoticon....

We might need our own special table at RTE's where we can speak Bavarian.   :beer

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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2019, 12:37:25 PM »
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2019, 02:08:18 PM »
Copy of Mein Kampf is in the post. :whistle
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2019, 02:47:01 PM »
The next RTE might look like this:



Maybe we should start allocating names.  Pete first since he started this nonsense:  He's the Boss in the sidecar.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2019, 04:35:49 PM »

Maybe we should start allocating names.  Pete first since he started this nonsense:  He's the Boss in the sidecar.

Yeah. Kommandant Pete has a nice ring to it. Or StinkyKlink.
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 05:41:28 PM »

Maybe we should start allocating names.  Pete first since he started this nonsense:  He's the Boss in the sidecar.

Yeah. Kommandant Pete has a nice ring to it. Or StinkyKlink.

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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2019, 07:40:21 AM »

Maybe we should start allocating names.  Pete first since he started this nonsense:  He's the Boss in the sidecar.

Yeah. Kommandant Pete has a nice ring to it. Or StinkyKlink.

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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2019, 05:03:57 PM »
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It appears a Mod has already taken a liberty with a Forum name...    :whistle
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2019, 08:44:48 PM »
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Re: So... which fuel for your ST?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2019, 09:02:33 PM »

It appears a Mod has already taken a liberty with a Forum name...    :whistle

I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know ... NOTHING.

Oh dear. There goes a perfectly good and useful thread.
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