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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Williamson on November 27, 2018, 06:16:04 AM
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So as the Find-A-Town, Make a Word thread doesn't get hi-jacked .....
I'm actually in a bicycle lane, which is probably an offence.
That is an offence.
Not in Victoria.
.... south of Kempsey a couple of years ago when I was pulled over for one of the sins I was caught out committing ....
North of Taree for me, around 20 years ago. A very polite Highway Patrol Officer pulled me over for a non-compliant bicycle rack number plate. Helen rifled through her bag for receipt from VicRoads for the receipt for the plate she had ordered three months earlier, but which VicRoads had failed to deliver.
I calmly asked if there was anything I could say to avoid a penalty. The HPO replied, "No! And if you want to argue, I'll see what else I can add."
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Here is a link to the "Australian Road Rules" so that this discussion can have a look at some facts.
Search with a "Control F" for words around the issue that concerns you.
https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports/(0A17E47C-AE9E-91BF-B78D-C9929BD939DD).pdf (https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports/(0A17E47C-AE9E-91BF-B78D-C9929BD939DD).pdf)
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Here is a link to the "Australian Road Rules" so that this discussion can have a look at some facts.
Search with a "Control F" for words around the issue that concerns you.
https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports/(0A17E47C-AE9E-91BF-B78D-C9929BD939DD).pdf (https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports/(0A17E47C-AE9E-91BF-B78D-C9929BD939DD).pdf)
Thanks Pete. Unfortunately that URL stops at page 146 of 391 pages.
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Is this one any better?
http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/ (http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/)
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Is this one any better?
[url]http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/[/url] ([url]http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/[/url])
It is, in that it is comprehensive. It is SA specific, but there is a degree of uniformity across the States.
The other version is in PDF which can be saved for reference anytime, whereas this is a website.
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So as the Find-A-Town, Make a Word thread doesn't get hi-jacked .....
That is an offence.
Not in Victoria.
but it is in SA, according to the source Alan posted- Reg 187.
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So as the Find-A-Town, Make a Word thread doesn't get hi-jacked .....
That is an offence.
Not in Victoria.
but it is in SA, according to the source Alan posted- Reg 187.
I just had another look at the site I gave and you can select the state you need under Jurisdiction
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I just had another look at the site I gave and you can select the state you need under Jurisdiction
Ahhh! The National road rules are not national.
Here's an extract of the Victorian Road Safety Road Rules 2017:
187 Stopping in a bus lane, tram lane, tramway, transit lane, truck lane or on tram tracks
(1) A driver must not stop in a bus lane, transit lane or truck lane unless the driver—
(a) is driving a public bus, public minibus or taxi, and is dropping off or picking up, passengers; and
(b) is permitted to drive in the lane under these Rules.
This is from the Australian Road Rules:
187 Stopping in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, tramway, transit lane, truck lane or on tram tracks
So in Victoria the omission of a reference to a bicycle lane, makes all the difference.
I was working for the Road Safety and Traffic Authority (RoSTA) in Victoria from the mid 70's, then Road Traffic Authority (RTA), and finally VicRoads through to 2001. When bicycle lanes and paths (I just looked up a 1981 technical manual, they were know as bicycle facilities back then) were being talked about, there was some specific discussions about allowing parking in bicycle lanes. I guess you know which way we went.
Notwithstanding the above, if there are signs (No Stopping or No Parking, or some other form of restriction) or line-markings (yellow edge lines), rule 187 is moot as the signs or line-marking take precedent.