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New LED Driving Lights
« on: June 22, 2015, 05:46:10 PM »
Last week I ordered these to go put on the bike when I get mounts.

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/221717535034?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202357%2526meid%253D6b8bdd86ea734ff2b33647ca742f819a%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D25%2526mehot%253Dpp%2526sd%253D321621070246&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

They arrived today with unexpectadly a wiring harness included. The harness is complete with relay, source fuse and on/off switch.

The harness is set up in such a way that I will be able to change the on/off switch if I want to by simply unplugging it.

In the garage running off the battery charger they are quite good spots. It is an elliptical beam.   Aimed out over the roof tops in the neighbourhood, i could clearly see the trees over two houses away.

I suspect on Battery they will even be better.

When I finally get to mount them, I am going to try crossing the beams to get best around corner coverage.




« Last Edit: July 03, 2015, 10:06:04 PM by Gadget »
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 05:58:24 PM »
Nice one  :like


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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 05:59:58 PM »
Look ok, pity they did not turn up while I was there to have a sticky beak
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2015, 06:59:28 PM »
Nice one  :like


18 watts each Gary ??
30 Watts each. :grin
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2015, 07:01:55 PM »
Look ok, pity they did not turn up while I was there to have a sticky beak
Just the excuse you need to come take a look at them another day and help me drink another red or 2. ++
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 07:08:51 PM »
I have thought about these my self. sopposedly good for 500m. I would be interested as to what you see at 500m.
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 08:51:45 PM »
I have thought about these my self. sopposedly good for 500m. I would be interested as to what you see at 500m.
waiting for tax cheque, that's if tony gives me one
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 01:22:34 PM »
I had the same thought Yorkie... it doesn't really matter what is out there beyond 200 metres, although - the more warning you get of trouble - the better the evasion tactics choices, and the more relaxed one can remain.
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 02:45:07 PM »
I had the same thought Yorkie... it doesn't really matter what is out there beyond 200 metres, although - the more warning you get of trouble - the better the evasion tactics choices, and the more relaxed one can remain.
I used my HID ones for the first time on Monday night (15th) and found I didn't have to strain to see anything moving around where the high beam would end. Other than that the worst time for wildlife is when your on low beam and you can't see the road due to oncoming headlights; especially within the last 100 metres between approaching vehicles.
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 05:51:32 PM »

When I finally get to mount them, I am going to try crossing the beams to get best around corner coverage.

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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 05:52:24 PM »
I had the same thought Yorkie... it doesn't really matter what is out there beyond 200 metres, although - the more warning you get of trouble - the better the evasion tactics choices, and the more relaxed one can remain.
I used my HID ones for the first time on Monday night (15th) and found I didn't have to strain to see anything moving around where the high beam would end. Other than that the worst time for wildlife is when your on low beam and you can't see the road due to oncoming headlights; especially within the last 100 metres between approaching vehicles.
When they come out from under the wheels of a B-Double in front of you would have to be the worst, unless you're got a 100 metre gap, and even then, it has to register what it is you're about to hit! It's never in one piece either; sort of like bio-shrapnel I guess.
 
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2015, 04:01:59 PM »
bio-shrapnel !!!!


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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2015, 10:09:12 PM »
Well the mounts arrived and this afternoon I fitted them and the lights to the bike. The wiring is yet to be done tomorrow.





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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2015, 05:01:27 PM »
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2015, 07:50:36 PM »
good stuff the hard parts is done, question is will they fry bats or bugs??
 

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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2015, 07:56:38 PM »
Can't adjust them tonight. I have to be at a friend's birthday party. :|||
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2015, 08:27:00 AM »
should keep you out of trouble Gary  :thumb
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2015, 08:51:16 AM »
I have thought about these my self. sopposedly good for 500m. I would be interested as to what you see at 500m.
waiting for tax cheque, that's if tony gives me one
It takes approx. 150mt for a B-double to stop from 100k/h, if we are unable to see and stop in that distance we shouldn't be riding.
I had the same thought Yorkie... it doesn't really matter what is out there beyond 200 metres, although - the more warning you get of trouble - the better the evasion tactics choices, and the more relaxed one can remain.

During some research on using the FLIR I came across the following helpful information from HardTXRider blog, the principles will be familiar to some of you here;

To detect objects the human visual system looks for object signatures which differentiates it from the background.  The term visual salience is used in cognitive science to describe the features that make objects detectable.

The size of the “difference” with the background must become higher than a “threshold value” before the object becomes salient, or in other words, draws attention.  In terms of naturally camouflage animals, consider the following attributes that have traditionally been mentioned that help one to detect an animal hazard in the riding environment.

Visual Salience

    Movement – shapes moving in a static environment or not moving in a dynamic environment will draw attention.
    Shine from reflective surfaces – Eye reflection of animals at night..
    Shape – humanoid and animal shapes draw attention
    Silhouette – a contrasting blob against the background.
    Color and texture – natural camouflage and animal surface textures are hard to detect especially at night.
    Shadow – the mind can calculate probable shapes from the shadows cast – especially human and to a lesser degree animal shapes.
    Spacing – regular spaced objects form a pattern that will draw attention.

Night Riding Basics:
Riding at night poses a special problem for motorcyclists.  Reduced visibility ahead increases the possibility of striking something in the intended path of travel.   Debris on the road, or worse, an animal if struck can result in severe injury, possible death.

It takes training and purposeful practice to reduce the risks of riding at night or under less than ideal visual conditions like fog, heavy rain, smoke or dust.   Using the MSF Rider Radar concept helps to prioritize one's attention while riding.  The table below is how I prioritize the threat for hazards ahead:

  Threat Zone                                           Threat Level
Distance Ahead                 Path of Travel                       Shoulder Margins

      2 Seconds                         Extreme                                High
      4 Seconds                         High                                      Medium
      6 Seconds                         Medium                                 Low
     12 Seconds                        Low                                       Low

Anything in the 4 second immediate path of travel must be dealt with.  A moving hazard anywhere in the 4 second range can quickly become a High threat.  The maneuver choices are reduce speed and/or swerving around the hazard.  The objective is to see hazards before it gets within the total stopping distance of the motorcycle.  Specifically, perception distance, reaction distance and braking distance.  Purposeful practice can reduce reaction distance and a well maintained motorcycle can reduce braking distance.

Perception distance is how many seconds ahead a potential hazard is recognized.  Under ideal conditions during the day it is possible to see 10 to 12 seconds ahead.  At 96 KPH 15 seconds ahead is about 400 meters.  At night or under less than ideal conditions seeing only 4-6 seconds ahead is the norm.  Sometimes using auxiliary lighting may extend this to 8 seconds.  But these bright lights, like the high beam, must be turned off for approaching traffic.


(note: I converted mile to KPH and meters)

Just some food for thought.....
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2015, 09:03:32 AM »
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Re: New LED Driving Lights
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2015, 10:59:26 AM »
Well I measured the current these new lights draw and with the engine of it is 2.6 Amps. With the ngine running it goes up to 3 to 3.2 Amps.  So today I fitted a 5 Amp fuse.
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2015, 11:00:02 AM »
Good info there tj. Thanks :thumbs
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