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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Farkles and Gear General Section => Topic started by: ruSTynutz on March 12, 2023, 10:31:28 PM
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I'd been going to mount my Migsel dash mount and GPS for ages now but was thwarted last year when I had a few health issues.
Fast forward to this week and I thought I'd better get stuck into it and this is the result...
Not liking the idea of using a ram ball and socket arm to hold the GPS I had a brain wave and figured I could use the ram ball
threaded hole in the Migsel dash mount to fasten my homemade mounting bracket to it.
With the GPS tucked back under the screen I figured it would also be out of the worst of the weather.
Instead of stuffing around trying to find an accessory point to tap into for power (and not wanting to pull off the fairing) I made
use of a cable that was coming straight off the battery that the previous owner had installed.
Obviously I needed to be able to isolate the power when the bike was shut down so I installed a switch inside the right-hand pie warmer...
Pretty happy with how it came out... :thumbs
(https://i.ibb.co/5KYyc02/GPS-1.jpg)
The mount I fashioned out of aluminium
(https://i.ibb.co/93g5tb6/GPS-2.jpg)
The bracket was mounted using the existing ram bolt hole
(https://i.ibb.co/bNtS6W7/GPS-3.jpg)
Working out where to mount the 12v to 5v converter and cable routing
(https://i.ibb.co/wBjNfXd/GPS-4.jpg)
Making use of the mounting screws to keep the cable neat & tidy
(https://i.ibb.co/xJc7Fxy/GPS-7.jpg)
The isolating switch fitted inside the right-hand pie warmer
(https://i.ibb.co/HKn94PS/GPS-5.jpg)
The Finished product
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Not bad Rusty I wish I had your brains instead of the pile of sawdust I've got up top. :grin :grin
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At least you have sawdust, there's just mostly empty space in my head! :rofl
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That's a really uncluttered looking mounting job, and I'm a fan of that simple and tidy look. Well done. :thumbsup
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Nice work Rusty, looks really neat :thumbs
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Thanks Pete & JD!
There was a little bit of measuring & checking involved at the start just to make sure that if I lowered the bike screen completely down that it didn't make contact with the GPS... :thumbsup
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A nice job Rusty
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At least yours won't do as mine does. Being RAM ball mounted on an arm, the road shocks (often severe over the weekend just passed) cause it to move down, regardless of how tight I twist the knobs on the mount.
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Can you insert some plastic tape or something between the ball and the arm...something that's not gonna break down if it gets wet? :think1
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Rusty
A fine effort and a tidy bit of kit.
Rgds
GB
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Thanks for all your kind feedback, everyone! :beer
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Awesome work mate it looks great :thumbsup
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Good one Rusty :hatwave
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Well, after just a few months I'm ripping my GPS out...to be replaced with an Android Auto/CarPlay screen...
While the GPS worked okay, with it being an older unit, it meant it wouldn't pair to my Sena Headset so I wasn't able get audio
instructions so had to rely solely on the screen, not always ideal when you're dealing with traffic etc.
Anyhoo, I ordered my new toy and it turned up a couple of days ago...
I've had a bit of a play around with it and it's paired with my phone and my Sena Headset so we're off to a good start.
So far I can access Google maps, make phone calls, check the weather and listen to music.
I haven't worked out how to get "hey google" to work as yet but, to be honest, I don't really care whether that part works or not!
Stay tuned for my thoughts on the product once I have it installed! :thumbsup
(https://i.ibb.co/j5J9mpC/Screen.jpg)
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So far I can access Google maps, make phone calls, check the weather and listen to music.
Personally I don't need to do any of that when actually riding. The forcite helmet can be paired with a phone but I don't feel the need.
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Assuming it’s weatherproof I’m excited! I’ve come to love CarPlay- among other benefits it gives the flexibility to use different navigation apps. Keen to see how it works out.
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So far I can access Google maps, make phone calls, check the weather and listen to music.
Personally I don't need to do any of that when actually riding. The forcite helmet can be paired with a phone but I don't feel the need.
Your choice, Bodø!
I mainly wanted it for Google maps which is more up to date than my Garmin GPS and of course I wanted audio directions.
I could already listen to music via my Sena headset but being able to do it with Android Auto should make it that little bit easier.
Assuming it’s weatherproof I’m excited! I’ve come to love CarPlay- among other benefits it gives the flexibility to use different navigation apps. Keen to see how it works out.
Yep, it's waterproof, Steve! :thumbs
It also comes with a range of Ram Ball attachments/mounts although I'll be discarding those and mounting it with my own homemade bracket...
(https://i.ibb.co/q1fnWYZ/Screen-2.jpg)
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I mainly wanted it for Google maps ... and of course I wanted audio directions.
The Forcite helmet (supposedly) does that too. I've never used. The only thing I hear from it when I walk away from the bike to take photos, it tells me I am in range of my device (the tablet in the top box) when I walk back to it.
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Hey Rusty can you put a link to where you got it as it looks like a good bit of kit.
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That looks like a good bit of kit Rusty :thumbsup
Darkwing has Android Auto and I really enjoy having it.
The phone maps are very good and access to all the apps on the phone is useful (I'm especially enjoying being able to ask the internet random questions about things while riding) :thumbs
Cheers
Shiney
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Hey Rusty can you put a link to where you got it as it looks like a good bit of kit.
Here you go...hopefully the link works! :thumbsup
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/385739113925
There are quite a few sellers "supposedly in Australia" with the same unit but at higher prices but, going by the delivery dates, they are obviously sourcing them from China after you've ordered them so I figured I might as well get mine straight from China and save some cash.
Delivery was quite quick too, just 10 days from when I ordered...
There are similar units (with a more rounded profile & a removable cradle) out there as well, but from what I can gather, they are a previous model and are a bit slower to boot up.
I believe they also had a bit of an issue with the Bluetooth connection or something like that but then, that might just be what the seller is saying to encourage you to buy this one...lol.
I guess time will tell if I've bought the right one... Wot thuh
By the way, if you're quick, you can enter a code to get a decent discount from the listed price...
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This looks great, and another plus is on Andriod using google maps you get a speedo on the screen, which you don't get with Apple phones, so you can have reliably accurate speedo.
I've just been mounting my phone with quad lock mounts but I like this option
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...mounting it with my own homemade bracket...
We need to see this bracket, Rusty. (When it is done, of course, or even as it progresses).
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This looks great, and another plus is on Andriod using google maps you get a speedo on the screen, which you don't get with Apple phones, so you can have reliably accurate speedo.
I've just been mounting my phone with quad lock mounts but I like this option
Cheers Marcus! I have a speedo healer fitted to my ST so don't need the extra "speedo" but yes, I can see that it would be handy for some... :thumbs
...mounting it with my own homemade bracket...
We need to see this bracket, Rusty. (When it is done, of course, or even as it progresses).
Not much to see at the moment, Dave...the bracket is basically an aluminium rectangle with a spacer block of plastic to bring the unit forward enough so the ST's adjustable screen doesn't hit when it's in its lowest position.
I will take a few pics and post them up once it's all up and running... :thumbsup
It might take me a little while though as I need to take the fairing off to do a decent job of hooking up the wiring.
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Well, that job is done and dusted... :thumbsup
It was all pretty straightforward, my bracket worked out really well and there's plenty of clearance when the screen is in its lowest position.
While the righthand side of the fairing was off I also took the opportunity to replace both headlight bulbs as I had one fail on the way home from the last RTE.
I also replaced the rubber dust protectors as the originals had been cut when the previous owner had installed HIDs.
(https://i.ibb.co/fCpRczK/AA1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZG8Gq6h/AA2.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LRXXR35/AA3.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rfsyLZv/AA4.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9tSnfq3/AA5.jpg)
With the weather forecast predicting fine weather, I might even get out on the road tomorrow and be able to see how it performs! :beer
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Very neat. Looks good!
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Looks good, Rusty.
I take it the Migsell mount is attached with captive nuts where the clips go and a couple of 6mm bolts, yeah? I might have to see if I can fake up something similar one of these days, and get the GPS or equivalent up where I can see it instead of down between the bars.
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Looks good, Rusty.
I take it the Migsell mount is attached with captive nuts where the clips go and a couple of 6mm bolts, yeah?
Here's what the "nutz" look like... :grin
(https://i.ibb.co/LrNzWpP/Mount.jpg)
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Here's what the "nutz" look like... :grin
Rusty, please refrain from posting inappropriate content. It scares the children and might get the site blocked.
:grin
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:fp :spank
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Looks good, Rusty.
I take it the Migsell mount is attached with captive nuts where the clips go and a couple of 6mm bolts, yeah?
Here's what the "nutz" look like... :grin
(https://i.ibb.co/LrNzWpP/Mount.jpg)
I suppose it is too much to hope that you have a pic of them in place, without the mount or the plastics. And what are the black plastic bits for?
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Unfortunately I didn't take any photos myself but a quick search of the forum found this: http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=12930.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=12930.0)
And here's a copy of a photo I "borrowed" from that post... :whistle
(https://i.ibb.co/ZJM37rx/Mount.jpg)
As for the black plastic bits, they are just little caps that fit over top of the mounting screws...
(https://i.ibb.co/tHYJM8T/AA6.jpg)
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As for the black plastic bits, they are just little caps that fit over top of the mounting screws...
Either that or they are the plugs that cover any ram ball mounting holes that aren't being used... :think1
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I just wandered out to the garage and amazingly, I found the installation instructions for the Migsel...
Unfortunately the "so called photos" on it were pretty much useless as far as being able to see anything helpful otherwise I would have taken a photo of them and posted them up... :fp
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Looking at the pics, and reading Alan's post, it appears that the nuts just slip in under the lip of the dash. Surely they are fixed by more than just bolting the mount down through the top cover and relying on the lip and clips further forward/down?
Double-sided tape at least?
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My hazy memory is telling me there may have been plastic blocks that the tapered aluminium mounting blocks slip in to???
That sort of fits with the instructions saying you need to slide the blocks into place... :think1
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I took a photo of one of the dodgy pics on the instructions....and with a bit of photoshopping you can see that the aluminium mount does slide into a plastic block... :thumbs
(https://i.ibb.co/rZbQwGP/Mount.jpg)
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That’s correct Rusty. I’m also a little fuzzy, but there are two little receptacles into which those aluminium blocks slide. Installation was trivial.
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Thanks for confirming that, Steve! ++
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For those that may be contemplating buying one of these "Displays", they are at a bargain price at the moment, especially if you're an eBay Plus member! :hatwave
$159.99 or just $132.79 (by using eBay Plus code "JAU17") You'll have to hurry though as it finishes on the 9/08/2023...
https://tinyurl.com/3afdeuun
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I decide to take the mighty ST out for a spin today to check out how the Android Auto works...
My ride was short lived as I found out my you beaut "Held" gloves aren't screen sensitive!
Ripped Off!!! When I bought them they were advertised as having, and I quote: "special leather at thumb and finger which allows smartphone operation".
Well, they don't work! :well :cuss
Anyhow, after going through all my gloves I found a pair that did work with the screen but by this time I didn't have time to go for a ride so it's looking like I might have to try again tomorrow...
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I got to go for a ride this arvo... :popcorn
After making sure I had the right gloves on, I got to try out Google Maps, the Weather, listening to music & making a phone call and it all worked...Woo-hoo! :runyay
So, so far so good... :beer
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Awesome news :runyay
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/05/83/530583e79e4fc7f75855995d511e185c.jpg)
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Thanks Dave! :beer
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Hi Rusty, the new component looks very impressive, particularly for the money. How is it wrt reflection. I have a gps which i find very hard to read at times, most often if I'm wearing a lighter coloured jacket. Your screen appears darker with more contrast which should make for easier reading in most situations.
Cheers Mark
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Hi Mark...
With the bike's screen being tinted and with the Android Auto screen being set back quite a way (combined with the Unit having a bit of a shade overhang built into the casing) I was hoping reflections wouldn't be a problem...and, touch wood, so far so good... :thumbs
(https://i.ibb.co/k85yYcY/Side-View.jpg)
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Hey Rusty, how is this working for you? I am seriously considering one myself if it is any good.
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Hi Dave, I've been quite happy with it so far...
In saying that though I really haven't used it a great deal, just a couple of RTE's and a couple of short rides where I already knew where I was going so wasn't relying on Google maps for directions.
Everything seems to work okay and it pairs up with my phone and Sena headset quickly and so far reflections haven't been an issue either...
The screen isn't overly large so that may not suit everyone but (so far) it really hasn't been an issue for me.
Listening to music has been a breeze, but I guess that might vary depending on what music app you use...Currently I'm using Power Amp.
I haven't tried Spotify since my initial trial as I have stacks of music on my phone so can't see the point in wasting my phone downloads.
Probably the main issue I've had is more to do with my gloves not working with the screen which is a bit annoying.
For the last RTE I wore my summer gloves (Alpinestars) instead of my new Ixon winter gloves and they worked perfectly so I guess it's a bit of a lottery as to what gloves will work.
I did try "Glove Tacts" (https://tinyurl.com/388jjpjb/) on the Ixons but they ended up a waste of time and money as they still wouldn't work on the screen. :||||
Funnily enough they worked perfectly on my phone screen though... :crazy
At this point I have no regrets in my purchase of my Android Auto Screen... :thumbsup
Cheers :beer
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I have bought one from your link.
I will be modifying my mount above the dash, and losing the Quadlock mount, which will be good. It is a pain to actually put the phone on it.
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That's good to hear, Dave! :thumbs
Hopefully you'll be as happy with it as I am with mine... :clap
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While Rusty has had no problems, mine dropped the maps side of android auto after about six weeks. It tells me see a seemingly non-existent update. I reached out to the seller for help on two occasions and got crickets. I would not recommend that particular seller to anyone after this.
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At this point I have no regrets in my purchase of my Android Auto Screen... :thumbsup
Famous last words! :cuss
Mine started acting up a while back with Android Auto disconnecting a few minutes after it connected.
I haven't had cause to use it in recent times but decided to give it a try coming home from our recent RTE.
All was good until I tried getting directions using Google Maps...
Google Maps "froze" although I was still able to control my music through it so it had me scratching my head!
Upon arriving home, I found it was actually Google maps on my phone that had lunched itself, and not the Android screen.
Hmm, I uninstalled the app and reinstalled it and it was back up and running!
Unfortunately, it wasn't long before the Screen started to disconnect again so I spat the dummy and decided enough was
enough, time to buy a decent Android Auto screen...
So, this is what I came up with: https://tinyurl.com/3sz4s2k3
I'll post an update when it arrives... :popcorn
(https://i.ibb.co/yfy0XP7/Carpuride.png)
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Sorry Rusty, hope I didn't jinx it for you. :p
That is definitely a lot pricier, so hopefully you are paying for quality as well as a brand name.
Keep us posted, please.
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No worries, Dave... :thumbs
I got the new one for a lot less than the price shown as I was able to use some discount coupons.
It comes with a 2 year warranty and full support.
I've read and watched a few reviews so fingers crossed... :X
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It comes with a 2 year warranty and full support.
That sounds a little more promising than the usual Fleabay warranty of until it gets to you.
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Apparently you can also send it back within 30 days if you're not happy and get your money back!
I did consider the 7 inch version but ended up going for the smaller model as i thought the larger unit might have been a bit of a squeeze between the dash and the screen.
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Woo Hoo! Look what turned up in today's mail! :runyay
(https://i.ibb.co/b5VmzGF/Todays-Mail.jpg)
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let us know how it goes Rusty. :popcorn :popcorn
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I will! ++
Funnily enough I went for a ride yesterday and, wouldn't you know it, the old screen worked perfectly... :rofl
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Damn, after checking the new screen out I think it has a different power plug than the old unit so I'm guessing I'll have to do a complete rewire....
I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part hoping both units used the same power plug! :fp
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Tonight, after hooking it up to an old motorcycle battery, I had a bit of a play with the new screen... :thumbs
It wasn't overly hard to pair up to my phone & helmet once I decided to finally consult the instructions... :whistle
Anyhow, it's so much better than the old one.
The screen is more sensitive, there's an on/off button which the old one lacked, and overall, just more user friendly.
I also like the fact that it has separate volume controls for media & phone. :runyay
Now, I just have to get around to installing it... :popcorn
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there's an on/off button which the old one lacked,
I now have a spare waterproof on/off switch mounted in one of the speaker grills for this reason.
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Shock horror, I've actually made a start on the installation! :runyay
And...of course the mounting points are different between the old and new screen. :cuss
So, I now need to make a completely new mounting bracket... :||||
Like some silly old bugger once said, "life wasn't meant to be easy"
(https://i.ibb.co/d4mKrSQ/Mount-Difference.jpg)
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:popcorn
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Okay, I've fabricated the screen mount and fitted it loosely on the dash mount just to see how it looks.
Weather permitting, I'll pull it apart and paint it black tomorrow... :X
The spacer is slightly thicker than the one I made for the previous screen as I didn't want to hacksaw
the ram ball mount off the back of the new screen just in case I ever wanted to use the screen on another motorcycle down the track.
I simply cut a hole through the centre of the spacer, and with it being thicker, it fits snugly over the ram ball mount.
I'm undecided as to whether I'll leave the sunshade fitted or not. To me it does make the whole thing look a touch bulky.
It's only held on by 2 screws so I guess I can take it off at a later date if I don't like it... :think1
(https://i.ibb.co/TqCJRLQ/Screen-Mounted-1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/P4k0MhR/Screen-Mounted-2.jpg)