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Title: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 18, 2017, 06:12:28 PM
The timing and location of the 2018 rally was raised at the WA RTE today.
OK I know that tradition has been for the date and location of the next rally to be announced at the previous rally dinner.
For a lot of people who need to apply for holidays upto 12 months in advance and those of us who want to pick up cheap airfares to cross the continent early the release of the date and location is important.
If the 2018 rally is to revert to early in the year some thought needs to be given to announcing the general location and date now.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Bodø Glimt on June 18, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
We have to our our requests in for annual leave for the following financial year in january.  Not knowing about these national rallies until after Balranald and having nothing else planned meant I didn't request specific dates and ended up with november, missing the national rally by a week.  I do plan to attend one in future though.  If it does revert to early in the year I'll be forced to look at 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: alans1100 on June 18, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Ideally it should be held the same time each year in either Autumn or Spring which avoids the northern cyclone season and the southern winter season.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 08:39:16 AM
it's slated for 10/11/12 August 2018 - Nth QLD  ++
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 08:40:52 AM
Reply 52

http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6210.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6210.0)
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 19, 2017, 10:27:46 AM
Reply 52

[url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6210.0[/url] ([url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6210.0[/url])


Thanks STimpy,
I had obviously missed that post.
Dates now in my planner.
Using Townsville as a NQLD mid point, Perth to Townsville return well over 10,000kms. That will need some thought/planning.
That is the weekend after the Border Run, interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
I guess if you leave border village sunday morning doing 5 x 800km ish days to hit townsville thursday night (assuming it's that far north).
At least it will get warmer the further north you go  :H
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 19, 2017, 10:48:00 AM
That is some of my thinking, looking at Google maps now. Just need it to be close to a MAJOR Airport so Theresa can fly in and out.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 19, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
I guess if you leave border village sunday morning doing 5 x 800km ish days to hit townsville thursday night (assuming it's that far north).
At least it will get warmer the further north you go  :H

Unfortunately for old softies like me who use motels that puts me in Wilcannia for the second night???
Has anybody ever stayed overnight there?
Otherwise:-
Wudinna/Broken Hill/Bourke/Roma/Sarina/Townsville Friday lunchtime.

Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 11:21:30 AM
This place looks the goods.It's on a working property.I looked into it for a trip but ended up overnighting in Cobar.

  http://warrawongonthedarling.com.au/ (http://warrawongonthedarling.com.au/)
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 19, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
Possibility as long as the access road is dry
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: ST2UP on June 19, 2017, 11:32:05 AM
Here you go been posted since March....

http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6210.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6210.0)


Should have 2019 dates released in the coming months  ;-*
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 19, 2017, 11:38:07 AM
Here you go been posted since March....


Thanks Chris, Yep see that from all the above posts.
One doesn't always get around to reading every post.  :-X
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: LindsayGT on June 19, 2017, 02:23:27 PM
This place looks the goods.It's on a working property.I looked into it for a trip but ended up overnighting in Cobar.

  [url]http://warrawongonthedarling.com.au/[/url] ([url]http://warrawongonthedarling.com.au/[/url])


I have it on good authority, that it is VERY good!
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Gadget on June 19, 2017, 02:46:49 PM
That is some of my thinking, looking at Google maps now. Just need it to be close to a MAJOR Airport so Theresa can fly in and out.
From memory, and StinkyPete (Or his replacement as National Rally Coordinator) can probably confirm, that one of the items on the check list for National Rally's, is a nearby airport for fly-ins.

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Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: ST2UP on June 19, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
That is some of my thinking, looking at Google maps now. Just need it to be close to a MAJOR Airport so Theresa can fly in and out.
From memory, and StinkyPete (Or his replacement as National Rally Coordinator) can probably confirm, that one of the items on the check list for National Rally's, is a nearby airport for fly-ins.

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It is indeed  :like

And my near by we mean within a sensible drive/ride distance or with public transport options to the Rally location...and NOT $100+ taxi fares  :Whipped

 :beer
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 03:21:32 PM
Does the nearest city airport have a NRL & QRL team or just a QRL team ? 
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Wild Rose on June 19, 2017, 03:44:41 PM
It does say on the forum here somewhere where it is being held
But you will have to find out for yourself because I'm not telling tales
Otherwise you will have to find out in Wooli  ;-*
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 03:50:25 PM
It does say on the forum here somewhere where it is being held
But you will have to find out for yourself because I'm not telling tales
Otherwise you will have to find out in Wooli  ;-*

I think it's the city with only a QRL team but i'm not %100  :o
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Wild Rose on June 19, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
It does say on the forum here somewhere where it is being held
But you will have to find out for yourself because I'm not telling tales
Otherwise you will have to find out in Wooli  ;-*

I think it's the city with only a QRL team but i'm not %100  :o

Not sure  o:)
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: ST2UP on June 19, 2017, 05:50:35 PM
Why would it be in a city ??

2017 NatRally location at Wooli NSW only has a population of 700 ppl   :think1


Just Say'in  :p
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Sicman on June 19, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
And thats only at census time  :grin
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 06:49:34 PM
By jingo i've got it !

It's in Maryborough so Marcus can feel right at home  :runyay   
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Williamson on June 19, 2017, 07:16:12 PM
After the current rally calendar has expired, I would like to see the Nat Rally aligned with the Ulysses AGM, either the weekend before or the weekend after, and in the same region.

For me, there would be obvious advantages with such an alignment, eg. one set of holiday leave (although with retirement coming closer and closer, that will not be an issue for me in 2020 and beyond), less travel expenses and easier planning.

I'm sure as many of the current OzSTOCers age, and as the OzSTOC age profile comes closer to the Ulysses profile, this would suit more and more OzSTOCers.

Food for thought .....

 
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Sicman on June 19, 2017, 08:10:34 PM
It would end up being unfeasible for many reasons even tho it may suit some to combine them.

1) From my experience of attending Ulysses AGM's the accommodation is usually booked out for a month either side of an Ulysses AGM as people use their holidays or retirement to make it an annual pilgrimage and have an extended stay for one or two weeks either side of the AGM.
2) Accommodation providers tend to up their rates for the AGM knowing how many people attend.
3) Ulysses AGM's are usually at larger towns or cities as they need a large support industry to make them work, and not the small rural centres that OzSToc like to support.
4) The accident rate for attendees going to and from an Ulysses AGM is elevated ( same this year ) so I would tend stay clear of riding in large groups.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 19, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
Unfortunately there are many things that affect members attending the rally, to name a few:-

School holidays (in or not in)
Motor Cycle GP
World Super bikes
Peoples busy work time of the the year Christmas, end of financial year, summer, winter etc
The Uylsses AGM
Ease of flying in/out for the weekend
How far from home

I am sure that trying to meet everybodies criteria would be a real nightmare for the organising committee.
The Toowoomba rally did line up with the Ulysses AGM, I went directly from the rally to Albury/Wodonga.

But can we by pass all the clock and dagger stuff in the above posts, where is the 2018 Rally?
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Williamson on June 19, 2017, 09:04:30 PM
Good points, but ...... in the same region, means to me within say ~200km, eg. using some recent Ulysses examples:

   *  2017 (Wauchope), Nat Rally could've been at anywhere in a rough triangle of Coffs Harbour, Newcastle and Tamworth.

   *  2016 (Launceston), Nat Rally could've been anywhere else in Tasmania.  Look at the potential savings in ferry fares.

   *  2015 (Wodonga), within area roughly bounded by Canberra, Griffith, Echuca and Lakes Entrance.   I missed this AGM because it clashed with the Nat Rally.

   *  2014 (Alice Springs), this would've been problematic, as would Darwin.

   *  2013 (Maryborough, QLD), roughly Gladstone to Toowoomba.

   *  2012 (Mildura) ..... plenty of opportunities

   *  2011 (Newcastle) .... ditto

   *  2010 (Albany), two trips across the Nullarbor per year is more than enough for me.

Anyway, I suppose you get my idea.

Looking forward:

   *  2019 (Mornington VIC), by my reckoning, the Nat Rally could be anywhere in the rough triangle of Warrnambool, Sale and Echuca.

So, far enough away so as to not have too much, if any, adverse impact on availability and cost of accommodation, and plenty of smaller, hospitable locations in the above regions.  Certainly smaller that Toowoomba which was larger than some Ulysses AGM locations.


Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Nigel on June 19, 2017, 09:07:38 PM
Good points, but ...... in the same region, means to me within say ~200km, eg. using some recent Ulysses examples:

   *  2017 (Wauchope), Nat Rally could've been at anywhere in a rough triangle of Coffs Harbour, Newcastle and Tamworth.

   *  2016 (Launceston), Nat Rally could've been anywhere else in Tasmania.  Look at the potential savings in ferry fares.

   *  2015 (Wodonga), within area roughly bounded by Canberra, Griffith, Echuca and Lakes Entrance.   I missed this AGM because it clashed with the Nat Rally.

   *  2014 (Alice Springs), this would've been problematic, as would Darwin.

   *  2013 (Maryborough, QLD), roughly Gladstone to Toowoomba.

   *  2012 (Mildura) ..... plenty of opportunities

   *  2011 (Newcastle) .... ditto

   *  2010 (Albany), two trips across the Nullarbor per year is more than enough for me.

Anyway, I suppose you get my idea.

Looking forward:

   *  2019 (Mornington VIC), by my reckoning, the Nat Rally could be anywhere in the rough triangle of Warrnambool, Sale and Echuca.

So, far enough away so as to not have too much, if any, adverse impact on availability and cost of accommodation, and plenty of smaller, hospitable locations in the above regions.  Certainly smaller that Toowoomba which was larger than some Ulysses AGM locations.

Your a card.............................. :butt :wht11
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on June 19, 2017, 09:15:31 PM
On a positive note for 2018....
:gldst11 Bikebear (craig) might be able to attend his first
National rally  :rockon
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Bikebear on June 19, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
On a positive note for 2018....
:gldst11 Bikebear (craig) might be able to attend his first
National rally  :rockon

Maybe.... depending on what happens at work.I always have time off in late August through early September to do the SCA Poker Run. How long does the National rally last, it's a long days ride to get to where I believe the rally is so it would require me to take several days off which may not be possible due to work priorities and other staff on leave.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: ST2UP on June 20, 2017, 04:49:56 PM
Unfortunately there are many things that affect members attending the rally, to name a few:-

School holidays (in or not in)
Motor Cycle GP
World Super bikes
Peoples busy work time of the the year Christmas, end of financial year, summer, winter etc
The Uylsses AGM
Ease of flying in/out for the weekend
How far from home

I am sure that trying to meet everybodies criteria would be a real nightmare for the organising committee.
The Toowoomba rally did line up with the Ulysses AGM, I went directly from the rally to Albury/Wodonga.

But can we by pass all the clock and dagger stuff in the above posts, where is the 2018 Rally?


We have only established the region of North Queensland (Not to be confused with FNQ) for the 2018 Rally in August, this was released back in March 2017 in the Annual Rally Dates and States thread.

Pockey & I are riding to the region in early August this year to meet with the planning team and look at the proposal and the Towns and venues selected....stay tuned.

 :beer
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 20, 2017, 06:28:51 PM
Thanks Chris
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Wild Rose on June 20, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
Thanks Chris
:hatwave :hatwave :like   :beer
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Jdbiker on June 20, 2017, 09:05:35 PM
Thanks Chris 🤓. Hoping this can coincide with our trip to the Cape🤓
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: alans1100 on June 21, 2017, 01:00:37 AM

We have only established the region of North Queensland (Not to be confused with FNQ) for the 2018 Rally in August, this was released back in March 2017 in the Annual Rally Dates and States thread.

I guess that narrows it down a little; west from Townsville across to Mount Isa and on to the border.

Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: ST2UP on June 21, 2017, 10:14:51 AM

We have only established the region of North Queensland (Not to be confused with FNQ) for the 2018 Rally in August, this was released back in March 2017 in the Annual Rally Dates and States thread.

I guess that narrows it down a little; west from Townsville across to Mount Isa and on to the border.

Yep ride north for a few days and turn right  ;-*
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 21, 2017, 10:19:29 AM

We have only established the region of North Queensland (Not to be confused with FNQ) for the 2018 Rally in August, this was released back in March 2017 in the Annual Rally Dates and States thread.

I guess that narrows it down a little; west from Townsville across to Mount Isa and on to the border.

Yep ride north for a few days and turn right  ;-*

Turn right riding north, that rules out Mt Isa
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: PC on June 23, 2017, 03:00:28 PM


Yep ride north for a few days and turn right  ;-*
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Just be careful there might be big lizards swimming in the water
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: alans1100 on June 23, 2017, 04:05:30 PM


Turn right riding north, that rules out Mt Isa
Not if you ride up North up the centre and turn right at Three Ways.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on June 23, 2017, 05:28:53 PM


Turn right riding north, that rules out Mt Isa
Not if you ride up North up the centre and turn right at Three Ways.
:-++
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: ST2UP on July 29, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
Where on the road from Wednesday eating, drinking and socialising our way Northbound to look at Rally venues/rides/proposals etc....

We will have the acting NatRally co-ordinator in tow if he can shrug of his man flu.....

If you have any special requests for NR requirements feel free to fill Sicmans PM inbox with them   :crackup :crackup


 :beer
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: WendyL on August 01, 2017, 05:03:07 PM


Yep ride north for a few days and turn right  ;-*


Just be careful there might be big lizards swimming in the water
[/quote]

Nope, I'm not riding north, way too many big lizards in the water north of here.....
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: West Aussie Glen on October 22, 2017, 08:59:57 PM
Accommodation now booked  :grin
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Wild Rose on October 23, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Robyn & I booked in
Bring it on
Can we go next week  :hatwave
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Biggles on October 23, 2017, 10:25:48 PM
Robyn & I booked in
Bring it on
Can we go next week  :hatwave

Nothing stopping you, but there won't be a nice new shirt and patch when you get there.
And I won't be there for a while, but you might wait for me...
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Diesel on October 23, 2017, 10:54:27 PM
Unfortunately there are many things that affect members attending the rally, to name a few:-

School holidays (in or not in)
Motor Cycle GP
World Super bikes
Peoples busy work time of the the year Christmas, end of financial year, summer, winter etc
The Uylsses AGM
Ease of flying in/out for the weekend
How far from home

I am sure that trying to meet everybodies criteria would be a real nightmare for the organising committee.
The Toowoomba rally did line up with the Ulysses AGM, I went directly from the rally to Albury/Wodonga.

But can we by pass all the clock and dagger stuff in the above posts, where is the 2018 Rally?


When Streak and I were planning the Nat Rallies, we tried to consider these types of things to not coincide with, and you are all correct in assuming that it is a planning nightmare when you throw in people's shifts and need for long term leave requests. We finally had to just try and avoid the 'big' clashing events, bite the bullet, and pick a date commensurate with the location's best offerings (say NOT in school holidays for instance if it was a popular hol destination).


You'll all appreciate it is nigh on impossible to get a date and location that suits everyone in a national motorcycle club. Initially, the next location was kept a very big secret until the Annual Dinner announcement - but, as you have pointed out - we needed to change the amount of notice we gave the club to satisfy Members' needs to give long range leave applications.


The planning committee may appreciate a special request if you def cannot make a particular date - but they can certainly make no guarantees that your request can be accommodated. Everyone would understand this.
Title: Re: 2018 Rally
Post by: Wild Rose on October 24, 2017, 04:16:45 AM
Robyn & I booked in
Bring it on
Can we go next week  :hatwave

Nothing stopping you, but there won't be a nice new shirt and patch when you get there.
And I won't be there for a while, but you might wait for me...

 :like