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Honda ST1100 Section => Electrics & Electronics - Volts, Amps and Fuses ST1100 => Topic started by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 04:19:12 PM

Title: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 04:19:12 PM
Hi guys,
I think I read that the headlight should go out whilst the starter is pressed.
Is this right ?

Its a 99/2000 police 1100 if that makes any diff.

P.S. Call me Dave.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: alans1100 on July 18, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
The police version doesn't as far as I'm aware - have a look at the wiring here http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=8503.msg98043#msg98043 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=8503.msg98043#msg98043)
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 04:59:05 PM
Thanks Alan,
Is it hard to put in a delay on the headlight ?
And which battery trickle charge would you recommend ?
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 05:49:02 PM
My headlight goes out
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: ppopeye on July 18, 2016, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 04:59:05 PM
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Thanks Alan,
Is it hard to put in a delay on the headlight ?
And which battery trickle charge would you recommend ?
I have a small Ctek for my ST

Title: Re: Starting
Post by: alans1100 on July 18, 2016, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 04:59:05 PM
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Thanks Alan,
Is it hard to put in a delay on the headlight ?
And which battery trickle charge would you recommend ?
I have a small Ctek for my ST
I don't use anything other than the key to start the bike to keep the battery ok but then my bike is used most days unless like now it's out of rego.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 07:35:14 PM
Ppopeye is it the 0.8mah, that's the one I'm looking at.
And yes Alan it will be my daily commute but I still like to have that peace of mind.
Thank you both.
 :thumbsup

Brock isn't yours ex pol ? Oh but your euro aren't you ?
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 07:42:33 PM
 :think1
Garry, just wondered if you had a stutter.
I always thought it was cruel for someone to say they had a speach impediment. You think they could have come up with an easier word. :beer
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 07:47:18 PM
My bike is Ex cop, WA police.

Euro??
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Aren't you overseas?
Your map shows Philippines, yes I know that ain't euro, but not here.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Biggles on July 18, 2016, 08:17:31 PM
Brock isn't yours ex pol ? Oh but your euro aren't you ?

He's got a bit of Thai about him...   But most of him is true blue.       :grin
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:21:37 PM
Thanks Biggles,
Wouldn't most of us like to have a bit of Thai now and then ?

The food that is, what were you thinking ?
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 08:24:45 PM
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Aren't you overseas?

I wish, for ten months I'm in the Perth area, the other two in Thailand. I dont have an ST over there (would love to get one but)

The foreign correspondent tag was some one being funny, while i was away on holiday. I just havent changed it. Also my pin on the Member Map is at my house in Thailand.

P.S. I just had Thai chicken wings with sticky rice for dinner, Oh and the wife is Thai as well.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:28:27 PM
Ok Brock, I guess your still one of ours.

Just wondering Biggles ? Is this still what you ride in ? Or am I showing my age now.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:32:35 PM
Hey Brock,
It's like my map tag, Tinonee general store and Bottle shop.
Although I still believe in 8hrs from bottle to throttle.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: ppopeye on July 18, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Yes the 0.8 is the one I have


Sent from my iPad
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:44:25 PM
Ppopye,
Which plug do you use and could you send a pic of how you have it mounted and were.
I'm thinking the left glovebox with the old cigarette socket and usb for the GoPro.
I believe you can buy them as one unit.

Maybe Brock could answer this, the rear of the left glovebox has had major repairs, has this anything to do with ex pol ?

Anyway it's were I'm intending to put the charge socket.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
This is more like it
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/Biggles%20the%20boy_zpsz6miuvs8.jpg)
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:47:29 PM
I'm just going to call you Garry from now on cause it's to hard to override auto correct on your stutter name. >:()
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:49:05 PM
What do you mean Brock ?
Half naked and hanging for dear life.

Oh you mean the one saving him.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 08:54:09 PM
 :well

Is it common not to be able to start up after about 4 days or is this a reflection of the battery ?
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 08:58:59 PM
Thats more than likely the problem. Remember, the clock is always running. It doesnt use much but it doesnt take much to flatten a dodgy battery.

The damage in you glovebox may have been done by a previous owner, mine had no damage except for a couple of small holes for the plug used to power the hand held radar.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2016, 09:02:04 PM
there are usually the immobilisation switch and switches for other stuff on the pocket fairing if that is what you are referring to.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 09:12:30 PM
Thank Brock.

Sounds like it Yorkie, cause it is a major repair.

To both of you,
Thanks.
Check my latest post.sure you'll find it.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 09:15:23 PM
On my bike in front of the glove box, was a socket for the radio / helmet lead, and a switch for the immobiliser.

The immobiliser actually allowed the engine to run while parked so that the lights and radio could run with out flattening the battery ( it would take about tem minutes). If some one jumped on the bike and tried to ride away, the engine would die as soon as the bike goes into gear.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 09:15:58 PM
 :think1
Brock I just had the battery load tested by a battery tech and he found it all good.
Might be his miss judgment cause the previous owner said it needs a " good run ".
And I think we all know what that means.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 09:18:40 PM
Haven't found that yet Brock but I'll keep an eye out, thanks.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 18, 2016, 09:22:48 PM
 :H
Ok I'm calling it a night.
Thanks for all your help guys.

Something I'll get on to latter, if it's legal to paint a helmet in nsw.
A topic for another day.
Night all.
Stay safe.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 09:23:22 PM
A battery may pass a load test after being charged. You can do this your self at home. Charge the battery over night ( or for 24 hrs on your charger). let the battery sit for an hour or two, then try start the bike while measuring the voltage at the battery with a multimeter. Voltage should be above 10 volts.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: alans1100 on July 18, 2016, 09:23:58 PM
Thats more than likely the problem. Remember, the clock is always running. It doesnt use much but it doesnt take much to flatten a dodgy battery.
Some rather low temps this time of the year will make an impact on a battery that's seen better days.

I let mine sit for 10 days from the 5th of July and it started up without an issue. Except for one plug that didn't fire; with rain, some foggy mornings and temps down to 1C overnight I put it down to a little moisture. It's ok now so no drama.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Brock on July 18, 2016, 09:25:54 PM
Painting a helmet is not a good idea, as the paint (or the thinners in the paint) may attack the helmet surface
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: West Aussie Glen on July 19, 2016, 08:50:31 AM
If you are going ctek consider:-

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CTEK-BATTERY-CHARGER-COMFORT-INDICATOR-EYELET-WITH-LED-CHARGE-LIGHTS-56-382-/301171690028?hash=item461f3b4a2c (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CTEK-BATTERY-CHARGER-COMFORT-INDICATOR-EYELET-WITH-LED-CHARGE-LIGHTS-56-382-/301171690028?hash=item461f3b4a2c)

I have one on my ST

or

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-X-CTEK-COMFORT-INDICATOR-PANEL-CHARGE-STATUS-LIGHTS-MXS10-MXS5-0-MXS7-0-56-380-/161679775636?hash=item25a4dd9794 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-X-CTEK-COMFORT-INDICATOR-PANEL-CHARGE-STATUS-LIGHTS-MXS10-MXS5-0-MXS7-0-56-380-/161679775636?hash=item25a4dd9794)

which I have on my wing.
Title: Re: Starting
Post by: Copernicus d ferret on July 19, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
Thanks for the links Glen , worth thinking about
 :like