Author Topic: Bundy and Bearings (Read 12533 times)

ruSTyEB · « **on:** November 06, 2013, 10:25:27 PM »

Last weekend I took a ride to Bundaberg for a mates birthday party. Great weather and the bike was running like a dream.

However just outside of Childers I noticed some strange feedback in the front, like the wheel was coming loose. I pulled over quickly, inspected the front end and seeing no signs of loose or missing bolts, continued on thinking this must just be the rough bitumen.

The feedback continued, intermittently and this time on a smooth patch of road. So once again I pulled over, my concern growing. After a moment of

I put it down to my front wheel bearings starting to go. There was some small play on the axel no more than a millimetre or so.

I still had another 300km to get home, so off I went cautiously, expecting at any moment some sort of catastrophic bearing failure leading to an axel shearing off. But my over active imagination thankfully was just this, and I arrived home safely, although the front wheel was a little noisy and I could hear metal floating around inside the rim.

Tonight I took off the wheel and this is what I found:

Streak · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2013, 10:28:04 PM »

damnnnnn

BigTed · « **Reply #2 on:** November 07, 2013, 01:30:44 AM »

Hmmmn. I'm glad you made it home Ok. Time for me to learn how to check the bearings front & rear me thinks.

Wild Rose · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2013, 07:09:04 AM »

That's no good ruSTyEB . But glad you got home

ruSTyEB · « **Reply #4 on:** November 07, 2013, 08:00:10 AM »

3weeks ago I took her to the local Honda dealer for a steering head bearing and new fork seals. Bearing wasn't picked up then and I'm wondering why.

Streak · « **Reply #5 on:** November 07, 2013, 08:08:25 AM »

Quote from: ruSTyEB on November 07, 2013, 08:00:10 AM

3weeks ago I took her to the local Honda dealer for a steering head bearing and new fork seals. Bearing wasn't picked up then and I'm wondering why.

Bearings are funny things, I have done several over the years on various machines, they just seem to go without a lot of warning, that's at least how it has happened to me

Turtle · « **Reply #6 on:** November 07, 2013, 08:20:38 AM »

After reading this and seeing the pics I'm doing mine front and rear as who knows it they have ever been changed and good insurance for the big run over to Ballarat and back home

Now where to buy?

Turtle

saaz · « **Reply #7 on:** November 07, 2013, 09:00:43 AM »

Bearings can just go even after they seem ok. And sometimes there is just as much of a chance of a new bearing going. As mine have done over 200,000kms I think I might get some and replace mine next front tyre change.

Turtle · « **Reply #8 on:** November 07, 2013, 09:34:33 AM »

Hey John can I get the grease seals for front and rear not from honda ?
Bearings front 6204 both sides the same
Rear 6204 and 5204 left and right different bearing
That look right to you

2000 St1100PY

saaz · « **Reply #9 on:** November 07, 2013, 09:48:04 AM »

It lines up with the information I have. You could ask the bearing place about the grease seals, as I think they might be available as a plain and with grease seal. The UU on the part number might be the seal version. Let us know what you find out.

rear wheel bearings
List of interchangable (hopefully) generic bearings for the ST rear wheel.
Fafnir - 204KPP
Hoover - 99204
MRC - 204SZZ
Nachi - 6204-2NSL
New Departure - 99504
SKF - 6204-2RS
NTN - 6204LL
The key is the 204, which indicates the size of the bearing. The ND 504 size isn't familiar, either a typo or ND is trying to pull a fast one on us.
Another note: the two rear bearings are different sizes, and this is for only one of them -- the cheaper one. The other is a dual row bearing. Someday I'll try to get the whole story.

Part nos for the double row bearing:
Honda 91053-MN5-003
MRC 5204 CZZ
front wheel bearings
Honda part numbers:

91-96 6004UU
after 96 6204UU
Same bearing on both sides

Turtle · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2013, 02:04:52 PM »

Ok Honda Dealer price for all seals and bearing OEM $197 plus 3 week wait from japan

Ok bearing shop here in Perth $70 for all front and rear bearings
no seals have to bring in to see if can get them

Online America All Balls Racing front and rear kit with all seals to my front door $88

Turtle

Turtle · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2013, 02:51:27 PM »

Gavo yep both kits front and rear

royst1100 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2013, 05:30:07 PM »

several weeks ago new steer bearings of to malany with ST group an steer went loose. another weekend camping trip with trailer and major steer problems, seems the bearings collapsed so can happen unexpected

Tipsy · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2013, 06:54:25 PM »

py
Hey Turtle I will be in on the bulk order deal or even just to get a set.
Tipsy

ruSTyEB · « **Reply #14 on:** November 07, 2013, 07:05:49 PM »

Front wheel done by Toowoomba Honda, $97.

I'm happy with that because it was a mess.

Yorkie · « **Reply #15 on:** November 07, 2013, 08:52:38 PM »

Turtle, you can add me to the bulk order.

winston66 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 08, 2013, 08:24:14 AM »

Turtle,

Can you please add me to the bulk order,If you are placing one, I presume that we are talking about the replacement for the 1300,

Cheers Winston66, Northampton WA.

Turtle · « **Reply #17 on:** November 08, 2013, 09:05:59 AM »

Winston the bearings are for the St1100

Turtle · « **Reply #18 on:** November 08, 2013, 09:09:09 AM »

Can someone else do a bulk order as I'm never good at organising things like this lol

Turtle

BigTed · « **Reply #19 on:** November 08, 2013, 10:40:50 AM »

Hi folks, I started researching this when I saw Martin's pictures - yikes! On the ST-Owners site Mellow references this product for the 1300: http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/6905-2RS

I'm not a mechanic, but good with my hands

... while I'm still researching, I've got questions: what's the difference between a wheel bearing and a flange bearing? And how does the rear differ from the front?

I'd like to put in an order, but not until I work out what I need. Based on the above link, it seems at ~$4 per bearing it's a no-brainer to change them regularly.

R.

BigTed · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2013, 10:48:18 AM »

ps. - Turtle - I'd like to see/help you do yours if that's OK, even if it's only a 1100.

.

winston66 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 08, 2013, 10:52:55 AM »

Hi Big Ted,

This looks like a goer for me too.
Thanks for posting, my ST has done 113000 Klms and I am looking to go around the paddock next year when and after going to the national, so even If I dont replace before I would like to have the necessary spares on hand for the trip anyway, and do a change if and or when I have to pull a wheel for any reason.
I will be watching this subject with interest.

Cheers Winston66, Northampton WA.

Turtle · « **Reply #22 on:** November 08, 2013, 11:38:16 AM »

Ok my research has found a shop in Australia and have them looking into bulk order price .........they are the All balls kits
Ted and Winston no St1300 bearings they carry

option support Aussie business if the price is right stay tuned for an update

Turtle

ruSTyEB · « **Reply #23 on:** November 08, 2013, 12:58:28 PM »

I glad my adventure has had goodness come out of it. FYI my STeed has done 165,000 and none of the service records show bearing replacements.

I picked up the wheel today, will put it on tonight.

Turtle I look forward to seeing what prices they come up with because my rear bearing is next on the to do list.

Diesel · « **Reply #24 on:** November 08, 2013, 02:17:33 PM »

Hey RuSTyEB - great spot mate. Your vigilance as you pointed out, may have saved you an adventure of another kind! - The 'over the handlebar' kind!

Well done, and thanks for sharing as you can see how this has benefitted other fine Members of this Club.

Cheers, Diesel

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